Guest NYankees Report post Posted October 27, 2006 I am looking to see this movie tommorow night. Please share your thoughts and opinions on this movie and series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2006 There will be a SAW 4 next year at Halloween. Thats probably all you need to know. The first one was great, the 2nd one was ok. Saw 3 apparently ratchets up the gore factor several notches but it also supposedly makes makes less sense than the first two combined. But essentially they are going to run the franchise into the ground like Halloween/Friday the 13th/Nightmare on Elm Street.. It'll make a ton of money this weekend cause theres no other horror films out and all the other movies that are out are stupid. Im hearing $40+ million (compared to $18 and $30 respectively for the first two). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted October 27, 2006 Saw 3 does have an 8.3 on rotten tomatoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2006 I am seeing it tonight, after my girlfriend gets off work.....I will share my thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2006 So I saw it tonight, just got home. Pretty damn good, the gore was stepped up a notch, and they once again found away to make a similar type movie - different. Also, Angus Macfadyen starring in the flick helped step up the acting in this movie, as I'd say this was the best acted out of the three. If you liked the first two, go see it NOW!!! Oh and regarding Marvin's post... I guess there can always be someway they can just make a SAW 4, but Jigsaw dies in this one, as does his "protege" so if they are going to do a SAW 4, it either has to be a copycat guy doing it, or they do some serious investigative plot backtracking to make it seem he had another protege all along. It will be interesting to say the least what they come up with, if there is indeed a SAW 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathon 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2006 Someone describe the torture scenes...I'm too chicken to watch it, but my morbid curiosity is too strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Robfather 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2006 Someone describe the torture scenes...I'm too chicken to watch it, but my morbid curiosity is too strong. 1. Troy has chains placed in his lower jaw, shoulders, arms, hands, legs and Achilles tendons. He must rip them out, so he can leave the room before the bomb goes off. Kind of an homage to Hellraiser. 2. Kerry is placed in a trap that is hooked to her ribcage. Hanging in front of her is a jar filled with acid and the key to the trap. She has to reach in and get the key to unhook it. She wins, but Amanda rigged the trap so Kerry got screwed. 3. Lynn is given a shotgun collar type deal. The collar is connected to Jigsaw's heartrate. Jigsaw wants to see his games through, and wants to live until they are over. Lynn has to keep him alive. 4. Danica is hung up naked in a freezer room and is being spayed with water. Only Jeff can free her by reaching behind ice cold pipes to get the key. 5. The judge is chained at the bottom of a pit. Rotten pigs are grinded up and is filling the pit. He will drown unless Jeff gets the key. Jeff must destroy all of his son's stuffed animals with an incinerator to get the key. Jeff is actually successful and saves the judge. 6. The cross rack trap is a victim up in a cross and is can turn parts of his body 360 degrees. The key is hanging in front of a shotgun. Jeff has to take a bullet to get the key. Well, he actually aviods it, but the judge is killed by standing in the wrong spot. Jeff doesn't save Tim in time and his head is turned completely around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathon 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2006 Those dont' sound so bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest A.BUTCHER'S HOUSE OF RIBS Report post Posted October 28, 2006 Wow I didn't know Alfred Molina was in this flick,it might actually be pretty good. I've loved Shawnee Smith ever since seeing her in Iron Eagle and The Blob. I'm happy to see her doing well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted October 28, 2006 Wow I didn't know Alfred Molina was in this flick,it might actually be pretty good. I've loved Shawnee Smith ever since seeing her in Iron Eagle and The Blob. I'm happy to see her doing well. How can you forget the classic all time great Summer School. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2006 Thats not Alfred Molina, it's Angus MacFadyen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haws bah gawd 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2006 To whoever saw this, tell me if Detective Matthews made it out alive. My mind was so busy trying to keep up with how everything was tying together at the end, that I dont remember if they actually said whether or not he was dead. I know Amanda said she killed him, but Jigsaw said he knew that she didnt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reign 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2006 It's really crazy how this movie franchise has progressed...the director said that in Saw 1 he got a PG-13 type movie and went back and shot more gorey footage to get to the R but all in all there was little gore, just a smart mystery/horror. Saw 2 had a some horrible torture traps but now we've arrived at Saw merging with Hostel for some intense gore... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2006 I hope they don't keep down this same path. Gore just for gore's sakes, and trying to make such a contrived story so as to make this big surprise at the end every time. Still, no. 3 did that well, I just see bad omens for the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2006 I hope they don't keep down this same path. Gore just for gore's sakes, and trying to make such a contrived story so as to make this big surprise at the end every time. Still, no. 3 did that well, I just see bad omens for the future. $$$..it didnt make $40 million like I heard but came close (35)..they'll keep pumping out SAW movies every halloween as long as people flock to the theatres to see em. Which sucks but its how it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2006 I'm told the gore was there but the movie was horrible and worse than the 2nd one. Could I get some spoiler-free advice on whether to go see this or wait for the illegal download/DVD? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haws bah gawd 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2006 I'm told the gore was there but the movie was horrible and worse than the 2nd one. Could I get some spoiler-free advice on whether to go see this or wait for the illegal download/DVD? I loved the gore in this flick, being that it had some very creative death traps. The story of the movie was different to say the least, but all made sense with the big plot twist at the end. It explains some of the mysteries from the first couple of movies, and ties them together nicely. All in all its definitely worth going to see, and I enjoyed it much more than the 2nd one, which in itself was pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Robfather 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2006 To whoever saw this, tell me if Detective Matthews made it out alive. My mind was so busy trying to keep up with how everything was tying together at the end, that I dont remember if they actually said whether or not he was dead. I know Amanda said she killed him, but Jigsaw said he knew that she didnt. Well, I'm not sure. Matthews and Amanda have their fight, Matthew's has the advantage, until Amanda kicks him in his broken foot. She is walking away until he keeps baiting her, with his, "You're not Jigsaw" line. She then walks back, and its implied she did something to him. If I recall correctly, though, she "left him there for dead" and John says he "cleaned up her mess, and forgave her for it". What did Jigsaw do? Not sure, as it happened off-screen. Since Jigsaw disapproved of killing victims, I wonder what became of Matthews. Hmmm... guess its a mystery, like Dr. Gordon. On thing, though, Matthews was badass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cd213 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2006 Just got home from seeing this film and must say this is THE BEST horror film I have seen all year. The traps rocked, the story was well done, and it answered pretty much all the questions someone might have from the first two films. To the people that think that there can be a Saw IV, I highly doubt it can be done. That's all I'm going to say without giving anything away. I would compare this to The Devil's Rejects in the way that everyone died that can be tied to another sequel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster Report post Posted October 30, 2006 Although little is known about Saw 4, the sequel to Saw 3, it was recently announced that production will most-likely start during November of 2006. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mrbutcherer Report post Posted October 30, 2006 Just got home from seeing this film and must say this is THE BEST horror film I have seen all year. The traps rocked, the story was well done, and it answered pretty much all the questions someone might have from the first two films. To the people that think that there can be a Saw IV, I highly doubt it can be done. That's all I'm going to say without giving anything away. I would compare this to The Devil's Rejects in the way that everyone died that can be tied to another sequel. But I have to ask did she really die? She got shot alright, and went limp. But I'm thinking she passed out from shock/loss of blood than died. She wasn't exactly bleeding a gusher, it wasn't spurting out so it didn't look like her artery was hit. I imagine she was in pain, freaking out with everything Jigsaw revealed to her, and then, pfft. She passed out. And for Mathews, Jigsaw did imply that he "took care" of Amanda's "mess." I can almost see Mathews surviving into part 4, some sort of pseudo disciple. I mean, seeing what Amanda went through in all 3 films, and how she was a fanatic of Jigsaw AFTER the shit he put her through, that stockholm syndrome shit, I can see Mathews being grateful for being alive and grateful his son was okay, and somehow, someway becoming new disciple in Saw 4. For anyone who'd say how can Jigsaw rig that up, didn't have enough time to enlist new protege, etc., you have to remember he hooked up the game in part 3 without Amanda being aware she was being tested. Jigsaw had time enough to rig a game around her, research new subjects that she didn't know about, and clean up her mess. And because he detested killers, and saw her as a failed experiment, who's to say he wouldn't line up Mathews as his next-in-line. For anyone asking about pt 3, it all depends on what you thought of the first 2 movies. If you're someone who denounces them, calls them a waste, etc. then 3 obviously won't change your mind. Me, I loved this idea, the way parts 1 & 2 played off of each other, and part 3 goes back to the original and reveals shit you wouldn't have thought would happen, but doggone, it unravels nicely. The relationship of Kramer & Amanda gets more mysteries peeled away, and if part 2's ending was a shocker, the story of part 3, IMHO, just draws you in that much deeper. Gore scenes: Mathews is tied up same room that the guys from part 1 were tied up, same deal, 1 ankle in cuffs, a bonesaw nearby. He sees the foot left behind by the doc from part 1, but decides he'd rather keep his ankle, so he takes the top of a toilet and smashes his leg into pulp, breaks it around something awful, and escapes. The girl detective from 2 is rigged up barechested to this device that's digging into every rib in her ribcage. The device has a key, key is dropped in a jar of acid just in front of her, and either the key will dissolve in the acid or the device will open, and crack her open like a walnut. Reaches hand in, gets it all torn up and bloody, but the key won't unlock and CRACK!!!!!! Guy has chains hooked into him, before him is a case of dynamite or some other explosive device. 2 minutes or you go boom. Rips the hooks out one by one, except for the last one, BOOM. Girl is in chains, suspended, in this meat freezer room. On a timer, she is sprayed with water until she ices over, then it's it. Judge at bottom of this huge giant cauldron, prone on floor, chain around his throat pins him down on his back. Dead pigs come in all factory like, and dropped through meat grinder, chopped into gruel. Every new pig adds more slop, until judge about drowns. Dude wrapped in up crucifixion type machine. Arms out beside him, head locked in place, and feet are actually nailed to the device. Machine turns on, starts to twist him and twist, and like a slim jim he SNAPS. Girl doctor wears big collar around her neck, collar is rigged with several bullets, all aimed for her face. Rigged to Jigsaws heart monitor, if he dies, she dies. And the operation. Oh the operation. Hannibal's brain surgery wasn't this good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
In Credible 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2006 I felt a little sick watching the surgery scene, it was so drawn out and graphic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cd213 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2006 Just got home from seeing this film and must say this is THE BEST horror film I have seen all year. The traps rocked, the story was well done, and it answered pretty much all the questions someone might have from the first two films. To the people that think that there can be a Saw IV, I highly doubt it can be done. That's all I'm going to say without giving anything away. I would compare this to The Devil's Rejects in the way that everyone died that can be tied to another sequel. But I have to ask did she really die? She got shot alright, and went limp. But I'm thinking she passed out from shock/loss of blood than died. She wasn't exactly bleeding a gusher, it wasn't spurting out so it didn't look like her artery was hit. I imagine she was in pain, freaking out with everything Jigsaw revealed to her, and then, pfft. She passed out. And for Mathews, Jigsaw did imply that he "took care" of Amanda's "mess." I can almost see Mathews surviving into part 4, some sort of pseudo disciple. I mean, seeing what Amanda went through in all 3 films, and how she was a fanatic of Jigsaw AFTER the shit he put her through, that stockholm syndrome shit, I can see Mathews being grateful for being alive and grateful his son was okay, and somehow, someway becoming new disciple in Saw 4. For anyone who'd say how can Jigsaw rig that up, didn't have enough time to enlist new protege, etc., you have to remember he hooked up the game in part 3 without Amanda being aware she was being tested. Jigsaw had time enough to rig a game around her, research new subjects that she didn't know about, and clean up her mess. And because he detested killers, and saw her as a failed experiment, who's to say he wouldn't line up Mathews as his next-in-line. Usually when someone spits up blood, that means they are dying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster Report post Posted October 30, 2006 According to BoxOfficeMojo, Saw IV's release date is October/26th/2007. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2006 I felt a little sick watching the surgery scene, it was so drawn out and graphic. This was the most hard to watch movie scene ever for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster Report post Posted October 30, 2006 That was the best part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randomguy 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2006 I'm tired of horror movies that are just "in what cool way did everyone die?" They are the equivalent of action movies that are just one set piece followed by another. Progress from death A to death B. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reign 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2006 This type of gore-only film isn't really worth the 8 bucks I spent IMO..this was really just a mix of the mystery of the first and the "gotdamn that's mean" totures of the second ..I guess it's a template for what any pending sequels could be like...this almost felt like what an episode of SAW: The Television series would be like... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2006 I don't know about anyone else, but even if Amanda somehow survived/survives, I don't like the idea of HER being the main villian in Saw IV, mainly because Saw III exposed her as being a different beast then Jigsaw, as she can't control her emotions and she doesn't even give her victims a chance to really win, she sets up the puzzles as either impossible, or she just outright murders them after they solve the puzzle anyway.With Jigsaw DEAD, If Amanda is the villian in Saw IV I will be dissapointed unless there ends up being some major twist or something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
In Credible 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2006 Yeah, that's what I enjoyed about the first two. In those the people had a chance to live if they passed their test, with her it was rigged so it wasn't as good. I don't see how they can do a 4th one and I don't think they should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites