The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 Its wierd to hear Vince McMahon not playing Vince McMahon.. I want to hear Vince McMahon play Goldust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 Is it horrible that I don't mind when K-Fed is on my TV on a wrestling show? If you took your tolerance for WWE and moved it to drugs, you could ingest heroin like it was oxygen. The sooner you accept it, the sooner you can begin to recover. Whenever you have a craving to enjoy a DX skit or anything Michael Cole says, just call your sponsor and talk it over until those feelings go away. Wrestling needs a 12 Step Program. "Hi, my name is Downhome. I used to have pro-WWE thoughts every single day. I thought their skits were funny, the writing was superb, and it was the best on-screen acting since the film Memento. It is my pleasure to say that I haven't said a kind word about Vince McMahon or his company in sixty days. Without Tedious Nepotism Anonymous, I would have never seen the light. So all I can say is thanks, TNA. Thanks." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 Umaga's no Shane McMahon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 Ha, Orton said he was getting tired of being the only one hurting his back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 That was actually a pretty nice looking hit. And it's ABOUT TIME, someone just beat the fuck out of Triple H. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 More blood. What a festive holiday WWE has been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 I'd rather have blood blood blood than man ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 Lol, obviously the refs, and others backstage only give a damn about HBK.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 MALENKO! Wreck their shit, Deano! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 I'd rather have blood blood blood than man ass. It's only a matter of time before we get each of them together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 the no commentary is just eerie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 Not quite as impactful after seeing it happen to Joey Mercury for real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Above Average 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 That was a hell of a closing segment. They really paid off Trips recently getting the sledge from under the ring and making the big save by destroying Edge's chair, plus the bloody chair was a nice visual. Made me cringe each time I heard the thud and drew me in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 So...how long until an animated gif of Edge smashing HHH's skull in appears? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Above Average 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 the no commentary is just eerie. Yeah, that put it over the top in my book. King and JR's stuff before it was excellent too leading up to the silence. Good stuff all around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest samoapunk Report post Posted December 19, 2006 Overall a decent Raw. It was brought down by the Cryme Tyme skit and the 1,000 replays of the final minutes of the battle royal. The ending made the show though. JR and Lawler sold the ending very well by not saying anything at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anakin Flair 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 I do wounder what the actual Prez keeps in his wallet. Don't know why they'd actually need to carry stuff like ID and cash/credit cards around. I'd ask for two forms of ID if he came into my bank... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 That was an awesome heel beatdown to end the show. And F'N Tony Garea is back in the company? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just John 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 Not a bad show, but it certainly didn't need to be 3 hours. When you have one guy working 3 different matches, there's way too much time to kill. There was lots of filler too, but that's to be expected. The plus side was the DX/R-RKO storyline being advanced with 2 weeks worth of material. Every other NYR program got build too, but it would be inexcusable if they didn't. The BR was what you'd expect. Lots of nothing until Edge did the good heel finish. Looks like Carlito vs. Masters at NYR. Meh. At least there was no Torrie involved. I know it probably wasn't in the script, but Carlito should NOT have no-sold that hard-way blood. That was the same amount of blood WWE wrestlers give when they want to put over serious head trauma. The Hardys vs. Nitro/WGTT match was disappointingly dull. I appreciate the Hardys selling injuries, but that dragged the match down when they couldn't show much fire. And the heel team saved all their cool offense until the match was over leaving the heat segments to be filled with lots of puching, kicking, and restholds. Is that Russian guy supposed to be a new wrestler? I didn't get that vibe, but why was he there and talking in Russian? The fans shit on him too, probably because they couldn't understand anything he said past "Double Double E." The Stallone interview was well done. Put over both parties and wasn't terribly boring. Nothing wrong there. The Cena/Edge match was great, possibly their best match together. I loved seeing Cena going back to the 2003 offense with the Throwback, top-rope leg drop, and even pulling out a couple new moves. There were some good sequences in this to mix it up from their previous encounters. The finish was kinda bad, but it was a story advancer. Worst part was Edge having to do the "Booker T sell" for the Pedigree. The women's match was better than I thought it would be. Hopefully they improve on it at NYR. When Cryme Tyme came out and started talking about TWGTT, I was happy. I thought they were finally going to give these guys some depth and help set up their NYR match. Unfortunately, it quickly degenerated into a terrible, and I mean terrible, comedy skit rivaling some of DX's summer antics. The crowd was into CT initially, but that skit killed 'em. The 6-man ME did what it was supposed to do. I liked Edge and Orton having to stay away from Umaga while Estrada had to keep him under control. Umaga and Cena do another wild brawl to put over their match, but hopefully they stopped fighting by the time the DQ was called. Edge and Orton put a good beatdown on DX and finally got to look legit against them. Edge baseball sliding HHH as he went for the sledge hammer was a good spot I didn't see coming. The Conchairtos looked good and HHH did a nice sell. Then to make things even better, there was Dean Malenko sighting. Good way to end the show, that oddly had lots of heels going over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 Edge is over. Not Cena. You're clueless. You don't draw the biggest ratings, sell the biggest merch totals, generate the loudest reactions except in northeast and hardcore cities where other former players in Cena's place struggle if you're not over. Edge is also over. Overness isn't limited to one person. Pops don't determine your overness. Undertaker gets big pops but he isn't a draw and you couldn't put a promotion behind him. You can do this with Cena. The thing is, Cena is the most pushed on the show so the love from the kids/women/casual fan should be automatic. Those kinds of fans are the easiest to get over with because they basically follow whatever FACE is in the main event regardless of who it is. Cena's failure is the lack of ability to appeal to anyone besides the bread & butter uber-face fan base. And yes, sure Cena makes money, because quite frankly it isn't hard to get kids to want to buy your merchandise when you have WWE Marketing behind your super push. The thing is, you could put a lot of guys in Cena's current spot and they would make just as much money, but instead they would also put on good wrestling matches. There is nothing special about Cena that justifies why he needs to be the #1 face in the company. It's funny because his old gimmick was "The Prototype" and he basically is the Prototype for what Vince wants as his champion when someone else that makes a shitload of money, isn't there to make Vince backoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 So, anyone have a list of all 30 people that were in the battle royal? I missed the first 20 mins of Raw due to forgetfullness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MFer 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 That was actually a pretty nice looking hit. And it's ABOUT TIME, someone just beat the fuck out of Triple H. Amen brotha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foleyfanforever88 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 So, anyone have a list of all 30 people that were in the battle royal? I missed the first 20 mins of Raw due to forgetfullness. Edge Orton HHH HBK Kenny Flair Cade Murdoch Haas Benjamin Masters Nitro Viscera Eugene Hacksaw King Slaughter Johnny JTG Shad Robbie Rory Val Venis Conway Carlito Ron Simmons Jeff Hardy Super Crazy Snitsky That's 29...was Matt in it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest samoapunk Report post Posted December 19, 2006 So, anyone have a list of all 30 people that were in the battle royal? I missed the first 20 mins of Raw due to forgetfullness. 1. Randy Orton 2. Edge 3. Triple H 4. Shawn Michaels 5. JTG 6. Big Shad 7. Robbie McAllister 8. Rory McAllister 9. Ric Flair 10. Carlito 11. Chris Masters 12. Kenny Dykstra 13. Johnny Jeter 14. Eugene 15. Jim Duggan 16. Jerry Lawler 17. Charlie Haas 18. Shelton Benjamin 19. Trevor Murdoch 20. Lance Cade 21. Viscera 22. Val Venis 23. Sgt. Slaughter 24. Ron Simmons 25. Super Crazy 26. Johnny Nitro 27. Jeff Hardy 28. Gene Snitsky 29. Brooklyn Brawler 30. ??????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest samoapunk Report post Posted December 19, 2006 So, anyone have a list of all 30 people that were in the battle royal? I missed the first 20 mins of Raw due to forgetfullness. Edge Orton HHH HBK Kenny Flair Cade Murdoch Haas Benjamin Masters Nitro Viscera Eugene Hacksaw King Slaughter Johnny JTG Shad Robbie Rory Val Venis Conway Carlito Ron Simmons Jeff Hardy Super Crazy Snitsky That's 29...was Matt in it? lol, I missed Conway and the one you missed was Brooklyn Brawler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 Hooray for me for calling exactly how the BR / title match would go before the show even started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 I didn't even notice Conway was in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 Does Conway have different hair from his last Raw appearances, looking similar to how he did in La Resistance, or was I confused with Johnny? I didn't even realize he was in there until it was mentioned here. As someone who, when hearing about Ken Doane in OVW, assumed he was related to Jack Doan somehow, I see the reason for the name change and approve it. They even made a clear point of saying "Jack Doan, referee for this contest" on commentary as if to point out to people who would ask about the name change that there was a valid reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 I do know that was Johnny in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestlefreak 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2006 I enjoyed the beatdown to close the show. Edge was really intense. Cena/Edge was decent(great crowd reaction). The rest of the show was a waste of the extra time. Raw can't even be good with three hours, while Smackdown manages to be great with less than two hours. Having said that, this week's Raw was better than usual. Cryme Tyme needs some ring-time instead of these stupid segments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites