WON News + Notes, Jan 15 Issue

[Black Lushus 0]

niskie needs to bust out the tranny pics again just to prove people like UTSU have no clue what they fuck they are talking about.

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I'm sorry, but Jazz was a little too "dude'ish."

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New Years Revolution Match Star Ratings

 

1) Hardy vs Nitro = ***1/4

2) Tag Team Gauntlet = *1/4

3) Dykstra vs Flair = **1/2

4) Mickie vs Victoria = **

5) DX vs Rated RKO = ***3/4

6) Masters vs Carlito = *1/2

7) Cena vs Umaga = ***

 

TV Ratings

 

Raw on 1/1 drew a 3.83 rating, even with K-Fed, with hour ratings of 3.83 and 3.83, and 5.06 million viewers. The K-Fed vs Cena match did a 4.1 rating, which is very good for an opening segment which viwers have been trained to expect will normally be a 20 minute promo. The ending with Cena giving K-Fed an FU did a 4.3.

 

ECW on 1/2 drew a 1.5 rating and 1.77 million viewers. This is much worse than it sounds as this was a live show which normally leads to a 15% increase in the rating and it also had a two week build for RVD's title shot. The show did a 1.19 with Males 18-34 and 0.97 with Males 35-49. ECW has lost 41% of males 35-49 viewers since week 15. The average age of a ECW viwers is roughly the same as all the other WWE shows at 35.

 

Smackdown on 1/5 drew a 3.01 rating and 4.67 million viwers, which is a season high.

 

News

 

HHH's torn tendon in his right quadriceps has changed all future plans. John Cena vs HHH was slated as the front runner for the WrestleMania main event but now that's out the window they are going to be brainstorming to try and come up with a whole new show. The tentative plan of Bobby Lashley vs The Great Khali for ECW title was changed and Khali was moved to Raw incase they need to build up a monster for Hogan to face should Big Show not make it. No matches are official for WM, but 'Taker vs Big Dave is still penciled in. The Donald Trump angle will now end at Mania which is the best plan for WWE as it hopefully will get mainstream publicity for their biggest - and highest-priced - show of the year.

 

HHH had surgury on 1/9 in Birmingham under Dr James Andrews and Andrews diagnosed the injury as a tendon rupture, with it tearing off the bone and thte kneecap. He should be able to walk again in about six weeks and will be out of action for between four and six months.

 

Steph totally freaked out backstage after the match. Nobody was allowed to approach her and one office employ who did got chewed out for doing so. Her reaction was described as being as if HHH had been killed in the ring rather than just torn a muscle.

 

The three title matches at the Royal Rumble are currently set to be Umaga vs Cena, Kennedy vs Big Dave and Test vs Lashley (possibly with RVD added for a three way). The deal is that the Rumble match itself is seen as the big draw and the show is a chance for the champ(s) to get a convincing win on the way to Wrestlemania which is why you get the likes of Mark Henry and Bob Holly getting title shots.

 

Untill HHH got injured the 30 guys slated to be involved were; HHH, HBK, Flair, Jeff Hardy, Carlito, Super Crazy, Khali, Edge, Orton, Masters, Eugene, Big Vis, Taker, Benoit, Kane, Matt Hardy, Booker, Finlay, Chavo, MVP, Tatanka, Helms, Van Dam, Sabu, Punk, Sandman, Dreamer, Holly, Thorn and Striker.

 

Although it's not the first time it's happened, Dave describes the TNA chants on Raw as being 'surreal'. WWE had hyped on its website all day that there would be an O'Donnell vs Trump match. Vince thought it was a comedic idea that would get the company some mainstream publicity and WWE even sent a media alert that morning to TV stations saying that they could get footage for their 11pm newscasts. Nobody bothered to request any. In normal circumstances it probably would have got some press, but as they've only just finished the Federline deal it was far too soon to try again. O'Donnell was played by Kelly Adkins, a woman wrestler who held the NWA Woman's Title in 2005 and has recently retired due to knee problems. Trump was played by Ace Steel, best know for his ROH work. The 'match' went 5:28 with fans booing at first and then chanting loudly "We Want Wrestling!" and "TNA". Vince, who loved the idea when it was proposed, was at ringside for the whole segment which ended up being a big mistake as the segment clearly bombed and they kept showing Vince at ringside no selling the reaction which made him look completely out of touch with what the fans want. However, even despite this, Vince still loved the segment afterwards.

 

Cyber Sunday back on 11/5 did a preliminary estimate of 233,000 buys (about 150,000 domestic). The 2005 Taboo Tuesday did 248,000.

 

Piper is said to have an 85% chance of survival.

 

1/1 was the end of the K-Fed angle. However if he ever wanted to return they'd be happy to have him back.

 

Vladimir Kozlov is going to introduced in the same manner as MVP was - being on TV for a couple of months watching matches and getting more and more involved with the show.

 

Lost more models are to be signed, with the thinking that they need nice looking people to get the ratings up. It's as if they've looking at what segments get low viewing figures and decided that's the way to go.

 

Diavari was not brought to Raw with Khali as they felt he was a 'distraction' when Khali was in the ring.

 

'The Marine' finished $18,748,516 domestic and $1,152,966. So that's less than half what was needed for the movie to be profitable.

 

Punk is currently in the doghouse, probably as he disagreed with the layout of the Elimination Chamber match with Arn Anderson and Michael Heyes who were the producers for it. For this weeks ECW TV Dave Lagana had written that Punk should get Holly in the vice and Holly should turn over, grab a rope and pin Punk. In the production meeting when the TV was being put together the whole room turned on Punk when Lagana told them his idea. Arn Anderson especially was against him, saying the Holly should make Punk pay his dues as he's just "Heyman' guy" and not any good so Holly shouldn't need to cheat to pin him. Anderson also said Punk was only over because Heyman fluked it and shouldn't be happening. Punk was personally told by Anderson that "after 14 years on being on WWE televison, Holly is the bigger star" as an explanation why the heel should pin the babyface clean. The actual finish was came up by Finlay.

 

Vince has also suggest Punk should turn heel, saying "This straight edge stuff shows me he thinks he's better than everyone else." The funny thing is Vince has no idea that Punk's catchphrase when he first came into ROH as a heel was "Straight edge means I'm better than you!".

 

Larry Zbyszko has contacted WWE trying to get himself signed onto a Legends deal and a commentry gig. No word as of yet if Vince is interested.

 

Monty Brown is pegged to be a heel when he debuts, which will be as soon as his knee heals up.

 

The company is working of a Wrestlings Famour Famillies DVD focusing on the Funks, Guerreros and the Harts.

 

Christopher DeJoseph (Big Dick Johnson) got some heat for getting himself booked on the Christmas house show run as those shows traditionally draw some of the biggest domestic houses of the year. Also several women involved in his skits aren't happy as they feel he comes across as a bigger star than they do.

 

They are looking at doing a new Hart Fountation with Harry Smith, Nattie Neidhart, Teddy Hart and possibly TJ Wilson. This depends on Hart signing and he's got an MTV deal till February and is often his own worst enemy when it comes to promotions who book him.

 

Mike DiBiase - Ted's son - is currently dating Bret Hart's daughter Jade.

 

Nobuyuki Sakakibara claimed that Pride meeting with WWE was about using the likes of Umage, Undertaker and Batista in Pride's proposed Super Heavyweight tournament in 2007. Dave estimates there's a slightly less than 0% change of that happening.

 

Kenny Bolin is back at OVW after his heart problems.

 

 

Wow. Thanks for typing all that up. Really good info.

 

 

 

 

After reading this, i want to slam my head into a fucking wall. Then, and only then, would i be able to think like vince mcmahon. Most of the things in here are some of the most retarded and dumbest shit i've ever read.

 

 

How the hell can you have liked that trump "match"?!??!!? How can you COMPLETELY ignore what the people are chanting that are sitting 20 feet away from you??!!!!!!???!

 

You NEED a distraction from Kahli's wrestling. Any attention away from him during his matches is a good thing.

 

Just fucking wow. How the hell can you think that after being in the business for sooooooo long?!?!? "Pay his dues" Does he not realize how long Punk has been in the indy's?!?! Also, how can you look at Punk as a fluke?!?!? How can you assume that NO FANS already knew who he was and that's why they like him???????

 

That's saying something when a fat male stripper is more over than some HOT divas. That's just sad.

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The original point I was trying to make was that even if you don't find the women the WWE puts out there attractive or alot of the women in wrestling in general attractive.

 

Just because a woman has some muscle or muscle tone and you don't think she's attractive doesn't mean she looks like a man.

 

It's true. I used to get mad when people would go on about how ugly Jazz was. It made me wonder if everybody on this board was dating a supermodel or something. If she's not your cup of tea fine, but there is nothing wrong with her, looks wise.

 

 

Jazz is/was NOT hot.

[The Niggardly King 0]

Punk jobbing to Holly will not hurt him at all. The only thing that can hurt Punk is a miracle jobber run to the whole ECW roster in a Shelton Benjamin fashion.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

I think Punk will end up being like RVD...they can bury him all they want, but he'll still be super-over because of his attitude and in-ring style.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Trish is gorgeous and looks like a woman.

 

Other girl looks like she used to be a man.

 

Big difference.

[Mecca 0]

Trish is gorgeous and looks like a woman.

 

Other girl looks like she used to be a man.

 

Big difference.

 

I think you need to see what some real trannies look like if you think that looks like a guy.

[Black Lushus 0]

niskie needs to bust out the tranny pics again just to prove people like UTSU have no clue what they fuck they are talking about.

[BUTT 0]

Here's another Observer note: apparently, Cole and JBL did updated commentary for the Survivor Series '87 main event (which I think it on the Survivor Series '06 DVD). Cole makes reference to the "late, great One Man Gang". One Man Gang is, of course, not dead.

[Corkscrew_Senton 0]

Nattie Neidhart looks like a man??? Wow, everyone's entitle to their opinion but jeez, that's bad.

[Black Lushus 0]

Nattie Neidhart looks like a man??? Wow, everyone's entitle to their opinion but jeez, that's bad.

 

exactly...

[Downhome 0]

I think she's beautiful. Heck, I thought she was great looking before the recent "make-over":

 

http://nattieneidhart.tripod.com/id27.html

 

http://nattieneidhart.tripod.com/id19.html

[Corkscrew_Senton 0]

I think she's beautiful. Heck, I thought she was great looking before the recent "make-over":

 

http://nattieneidhart.tripod.com/id27.html

 

http://nattieneidhart.tripod.com/id19.html

 

Good lord, she is SMOKIN. If that's manish I'd like to see the girls UseTheSledgehammer is pulling.

[Mecca 0]

Why do I read wrestling board around the net? I was reading the DVDR board and actually came across this thread...

 

http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showtopic=31319

 

People actually thinking it's good to bury Punk.....uh yea ok WTF? I figured you'd all enjoy the severe humor of that one.

 

I think someone needs to inform Mr. Hardcore smark......no matter how bad you like Arn Anderson or Fit Finlay most people watching wrestling don't give a fuck about them.

[UZI Suicide 0]

No need to link that board here. It's pretty much generally accepted around the 'net that DVDVR is full of complete fucking morons.

[Mecca 0]

No need to link that board here. It's pretty much generally accepted around the 'net that DVDVR is full of complete fucking morons.

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who was thinking that......

[Insanity 0]

Why do I read wrestling board around the net? I was reading the DVDR board and actually came across this thread...

 

http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showtopic=31319

 

People actually thinking it's good to bury Punk.....uh yea ok WTF? I figured you'd all enjoy the severe humor of that one.

 

I think someone needs to inform Mr. Hardcore smark......no matter how bad you like Arn Anderson or Fit Finlay most people watching wrestling don't give a fuck about them.

 

I learned awhile back that DVDR is filled with dozens of retarded posters and mods, and should be avoided like AIDS.

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I think she's beautiful. Heck, I thought she was great looking before the recent "make-over":

 

http://nattieneidhart.tripod.com/id27.html

 

http://nattieneidhart.tripod.com/id19.html

 

Good lord, she is SMOKIN. If that's manish I'd like to see the girls UseTheSledgehammer is pulling.

.....are you...are you sure about that?

[Art Sandusky 0]

I'd hit it. You're just insecure about her being in great shape.

[Special K 0]

The Punk thing is just depressing.

 

With RVD, he's an OK talker, an Ok worker, and he was massively over. SQUASH.

 

Punk has Austin-like charisma, one of the few unique characters to come out in the last five fucking years. Oh , hey! He's really good at wrestling too!

 

They have lightning in the bottle here. A unique character that can easily be face or heel. CRAZY charisma. And they throw it away for generic muslemen.

 

NO ONE has ever liked Holly. not a single person will tell you he's their favorite wrestler. If Arn's doing this shit? Fuck him.

[MrRant 0]

Nattie doesn't look like a man. She just looks... kinda old. Like mid thirties for some reason.

[Special K 0]

Those 'fitness photographs' always look bad.

 

Trish looked awful in those fitness mags too. She's gorgeous, but it's just the way they shoot them.

[Special K 0]

http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showtopic=31319

 

MY HEAD A SPLODE.

 

So much retardedness in such a concentrated, soylent form. I don't even pay much attention to wrestling anymore. Hey! You heard it here! Arn Anderson isn't just a mediocre wrestler! He's the greatest wrestler ever.

 

AA held onto Falri's coattails like a baby. He got rich off it. Good for him, honestly. But to say he's some kind of great wrestler? Pfffft. Bitch, please.

[Corkscrew_Senton 0]

I think she's beautiful. Heck, I thought she was great looking before the recent "make-over":

 

http://nattieneidhart.tripod.com/id27.html

 

http://nattieneidhart.tripod.com/id19.html

 

Good lord, she is SMOKIN. If that's manish I'd like to see the girls UseTheSledgehammer is pulling.

.....are you...are you sure about that?

 

If I saw her walking down the street I would absolutely take in an eyeful. Whether or not you think she's hot, matter of opinion, but as far as looking like a man? No at all.

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This Punk shit is funny as hell. The guy has been in WWE how long? Not even a year and people think he's more important than Arn Anderson and Fit Finlay? It's laughable at best. Arn and Fit are just following big steph's orders. I think he'll just be fine after jobbing to holly. It's not like I expected him to win the title or anything.

[CanadianChris 0]

I think she's beautiful. Heck, I thought she was great looking before the recent "make-over":

 

http://nattieneidhart.tripod.com/id27.html

 

http://nattieneidhart.tripod.com/id19.html

Hotness. My God. I can't believe Jim Neidhart had a hand in making that.

[Aero 0]

This Punk shit is funny as hell. The guy has been in WWE how long? Not even a year and people think he's more important than Arn Anderson and Fit Finlay? It's laughable at best. Arn and Fit are just following big steph's orders. I think he'll just be fine after jobbing to holly. It's not like I expected him to win the title or anything.

 

I don't think anyone thinks Punk's "more important" than Finlay and Arn. The point is that it makes no sense for them to be going out of their way to bury him, especially when he's probably one of the more over guys in the company right now. Being a newcomer is a benefit if anything since WWE rarely has any newcomers that, are not only immediately over, but actually have a lot of potential. I personally don't think the loss to Holly will hurt that much in the long run, but for Finlay and Arn to go out of their way to get a finish changed just to spite Punk is rediculous.

[Timmy8271 0]

This Punk shit is funny as hell. The guy has been in WWE how long? Not even a year and people think he's more important than Arn Anderson and Fit Finlay? It's laughable at best. Arn and Fit are just following big steph's orders. I think he'll just be fine after jobbing to holly. It's not like I expected him to win the title or anything.

 

I don't think anyone thinks Punk's "more important" than Finlay and Arn. The point is that it makes no sense for them to be going out of their way to bury him, especially when he's probably one of the more over guys in the company right now. Being a newcomer is a benefit if anything since WWE rarely has any newcomers that, are not only immediately over, but actually have a lot of potential. I personally don't think the loss to Holly will hurt that much in the long run, but for Finlay and Arn to go out of their way to get a finish changed just to spite Punk is rediculous.

 

Finally some sense on this topic. I understand and agree. However, I'm not shocked about Arn/Finlay doing this and I don't get why anyone else should be.

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CM Punk is another example of why Vince has his head up his ass. Vince doesn't like anyone he doesn't build up himself. If people know he was never going to give RVD a decent push, what makes people think he was going to give one to Punk?

 

Next thing you know he's going to give Big Dick Johnson a Goldberg-esque push.