CTDWAT: Indies/Overseas/General

[lee_hero 0]

Wow. I wondered what had been going on with PWG.

 

Haven't really heard anything out of them in quite a while.

 

They still work Top Gun Talwar? That guy always reminded me of Colt Cabana...cough...cough....I meant Scotty Goldman

[Star Ocean 3 0]

Yeah, Top Gun Talwar used to be one of the owners, but he very quietly retired. I don't even know when this happened, and don't remember any announcement, but his last match was so bad even he said he was embarrassed. Disco Machine also retired as owner and wrestler, so now there are four owners.

 

And make that 3 shows, PWG did have All Star Weekend in August, as a replacement for BOLA. I don't know how many people know that Chris Hero is the PWG champ, but he's going to become the second-longest-reigning champion in PWG history, and he's only defended it twice, on consecutive days at that All Star Weekend. The longest-reigning champ is Joey Ryan, who had it for over a year.

[lee_hero 0]

Yea, I read the other day on Hero's Wikipedia page that he was the PWG Champ. The guy deserves accolades, but if they're not running shows but 2 to 3 times a year it's a pretty pointless accomplishment.

 

I had no idea Top Gun was one of the owners. Any idea what he's doing now?

I used to keep up with him through his Myspace page, but he deleted his account a little over a year ago if I'm not mistaken. Said something about his gimmick and who he really was were too close and it was causing problems. That may be why he got out of the spotlight altogether.

[Scroby 0]

This is a question more so for the people who watch ROH around here. I heard that a wrestler that I know who used to work in Nor-cal but now works with Harley Race's school wrestled at ROH. He goes by the name of Bao Nguyen. Did anyone see his match? He might have went by a different name, but I'm not sure because ROH doesn't seem to have any pictures up from past events or a roster page on their website.

[ChandlerBiggins 0]

ABSOLUTE INTENSE WRESTLING WITH TWO SHOWS TO END 2008!

 

AIW coming off the success of it's last event "Hell On Earth 4: Black Friday" will end 2008 with two shows in two different locations in one week. Tickets for Nightmare Before X-Mas 2 can be bought at AIWrestling.com!

 

On Monday, December 15th, we will crown a new Intense Champ, since Johnny Gargano vacated it due to injury. The show will take place at Put In Bay Lakewood.

 

 

WHERE WILL JOHNNY GARGANO'S LOYALITY LIE????

After having his Intense title stripped at "Hell On Earth 4" due to his back injury, Gargano was confronted by Jimmy Demarco and Shiima Xion. Jimmy and Shiima rubbed salt into Gargano's wounds as they talked about how Gargano left AIW a few years ago and how Gargano is afraid of them. Jimmy even went as far as pie facing Gargano, who was held back from his revenge. Gargano, who's still not cleared to wrestle, has promised he's backing somebody in the tournament. Who will this person be? Obviously, it won't be Shiima or Jimmy, but the opportunities are there. While he doesn't see eye to eye with Josh Prohibition, he has a past with him. And Josh once saved him from an attack last December. Facade and Gargano are peers and have teamed in the past. Will Gargano take a liking to Flip or Lyndon? Or will Gargano finally decide to be Marion Fontaine's new friend? We will find out who the former champ backs live at Put In Bay!

 

The Tourney's first round is as follows:

BRACKET ONE:

-JIMMY DEMARCO VS. FLIP KENDRICK

The man, the myth, the Demarco returns to AIW once again, even though he apparently hates it. The man who claims he's never been respected by AIW, feels slighted again because he has to wrestle in a tourney for the title he was scheduled to wrestle for last month. While Jimmy brings his hatred, Flip Kendrick is a total opposite. Flip, who's happy to be back in AIW, wants to prove how far he's come over the years and would love to cap off his return with winning The Intense Title. Will Jimmy's new hardcore streak lead to a victory? Or will Flip use his highflying to overcome the devious Demarco?

 

-MARION FONTAINE VS. LOUIS LYNDON

-The "Friendless" Fontaine has been looking past his career somewhat lately, more concerned with finding his friends. With Cronus and Tolar not working out, will Fontaine finally be on the right track again? Or will the returning Louis Lyndon keep his hot streak alive by beating Fontaine and moving onto the Intense Belt? These men are no strangers to each other and will likely lead to an exciting match. But will the winner be facing Flip or Demarco? Will Lyndon face his brother? Or The strange Demarco? Will Fontaine be facing Flip? Or will Fontaine face Demarco who he tied up with at "Die Another Day"?

 

BRACKET TWO:

-JOSH PROHIBITION VS. ??????

Josh Prohibition opted to sit Hell On Earth 4 with his cohort Sterling James Keenan, but Absolute Owner Chandler Biggins has put Josh into the tournament since he has demanded "competition". He will not know who he's facing though, just that it is a "man from his past". Who could this mystery man be? Josh has had a storied career in pro wrestling, and made a lot of enemies on the way, so it could be numerous people. The person will be revealed when Josh is in the ring already, so will he be prepared?

 

-SHIIMA XION VS. FACADE

The two men who faced each other in a qualifier at "Hell On Earth 4", will face once again in the first round of the tourney. That match ended in a double pin, this match, there must be a winner! Shiima's name speaks for it's self. He's been to Japan, Mexico and all of the places in between, and Facade in a way looked up to him. Recently, Facade has realized that Jimmy and Shiima aren't what's right with wrestling. Facade is looking to make a name for himself off of Shiima, proving that being respectful and working hard will get you further than being whiny and expecting things handed to you. Will Facade over come the mat veteran? Or will Shiima along with his apparent friend Jimmy Demarco pull out some kind of trick and get a victory?

 

BONUS MATCH: TAG TEAM QUALIFIER: FAITH IN NOTHING VS. THE HOMELESS HANDICAP CONNECTION VS. ALPHA BETA DUKE VS. DA LATIN CRIME SYNDICATE

Cleveland's most dominant team Faith In Nothing lost in one of the biggest upsets in AIW at Hell On Earth 4 when The Young Studs beat them in a casket match to retain the AIW Tag Titles. Faith In Nothing wanted a rematch, but The Young Studs claim they had their shot and they are back on the level of AIW's other teams. Meanwhile, The Homeless Handicap Connection and Alpha Beta Duke have been having issues with Da Latin Crime Syndicate over the last year. But all four teams have one thing in common, they want a shot at the AIW Tag Titles. Will Faith In Nothing once again prove their tag dominance? Or will one of the other teams break from the pack and pull out a victory?

 

-JACK VERVILLE WANTS TO KNOW WHERE THE WOMEN ARE AT?

After losing his qualifying match at Hell On Earth 4, newcomer Jack Verville doesn't have a match scheduled at this show, but he claimed he's coming regardless. When asked his intentions, he claimed he's coming to find hot chicks and he's going to show why while he might now be in the tourney, he will win the match that counts the most to him, meeting hot chicks.

 

THE AIW INTENSE DIVISION TITLE TOURNAMENT WILL BE HELD 12/15/2008 AT: Put In Bay Lakewood - Lakewood, OHIO 18206 Detroit Ave. The show costs a $5 cover charge at the door. Doors open at 6PM.

 

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NIGHTMARE BEFORE XMAS 2: BORN TO BE WIRED

AIW's last event of 2008 will take place at the West Park Party Center on 12/19/2008. At This show, we will once again have $10 All You Can Drink Beer Passes!

 

 

-NO ROPES BARBED WIRE: HAILEY HATRED VS. "THE PASSION" JOHN THORNE

No words can describe this match. John Thorne who retired after Absolution 3, ran in during Rebis VS. Hailey Hatred at Hell On Earth 4 and brutally caned her. Why? Because he retired over a girl. Because of that, he along with Rebis want to retire every woman in wrestling. And there's only one woman who's proved herself in AIW, Hailey Hatred. Thorne challenged her to a No Ropes Barbed Wire. Shockingly she's accepted. Hailey who makes her living working in Japan and Mexico doesn't need to risk herself doing this match. But worse than hurting her with a Singapore cane, he attacked her pride. With some of the amazingly brutal Barbed Wire matches of the past, this match looks to be brutality at it's finest. Neither will likely be the same again.

 

-CAREER VS. TITLE: STERLING JAMES KEENAN DEFENDS AGAINST THE DUKE

Absolute Champ SJK who sat out recent shows because of "not feeling challenged" only accepted a rematch from The Duke when he put his career on the line. Duke who almost pulled a victory out at "Die Another Day" on SJK, is willing to bet his entire career on it. That match ended when Josh Prohibition helped SJK get the win. Will Duke finally have SJK's number? Or will the Absolute Champ once again pull out a victory, with or without the help of Josh Prohibition?

 

-NO DQ/NO TIME LIMIT: DRAKE YOUNGER VS. VINCENT NOTHING

One of the most talked about matches at Die Another Day was the unbelieveable strong style match between Drake Younger and Vincent Nothing with the CZW Heavyweight Title on the line. The match ended in a double KO. Neither man could take a restart, and the fans were left wanting more. And Drake Younger was happy to give it to them. Drake issued the challenge at the end of Hell On Earth 4. No DQ, No Time Limit. This time, it's to find out who the better man is. No titles are on the line, it's just two guys fighting to find out just what the other one has. Who will come out on top?

 

-BEER BOTTLE ON A POLE: FACADE VS. JIMMY DEMARCO

One of the most shockingly violent feuds in AIW history, Demarco VS. Facade has taken on a new dimension. Jimmy Demarco at Prelude To Hell tried to stab Facade with a broken beer bottle, blocking the shot, Facade hit him with another bottle. A bloody Jimmy Demarco was then pinned. If these men will go to these lengths, imagine what they will do with a beer bottle an arm length away. The bottle will be hung on one of the corners, and whoever gets it can use it. Like a few matches on this show, the match could be for the Intense Title if one of the two men go on in the tourney to win it. Will the blood feud keep going on? Or will this finally be the end of this violent saga?

 

-GRUDGE MATCH: CHRISTAIN FAITH VS. ERIC RYAN

Faith In Nothing feels that they were cheated at Hell On Earth 4, in their match against The Young Studs. Since Vincent Nothing already has his hands full with Drake Younger, Christian Faith has asked for a singles match with Young Stud Eric Ryan. With the AIW Tag Titles not on the line in this singles match, Faith is looking for pure revenge and he wants to beat the hell out of Eric Ryan for standing between FIN and their destiny as AIW Tag Champs. Will Eric Ryan steal another win? Or will Faith dominate like many expect?

 

-JOSH PROHIBITION VS. MARION FONTAINE

In another match that might be for The Intense Title, Fontaine still hasn't found a friend, and won't likely find one in Josh Prohibition. Josh is looking to win The Intense Title to add to SJK's Absolute Title, and Fontaine hopes the belt will help him find a friend. If this match isn't for the title, it will be a great judge for AIW Management for the Intense Division rankings. Who will come out on top?

 

-JASON GORY VS. SHIIMA XION

Two men that know each other, oh so well, Gory and Shiima have been best friends and sometimes bitter rivals. Jason Gory returned to AIW after almost two years at Hell On Earth 4 and was beat by Jimmy Demarco in a Tourney Qualifier with the help of Shiima. Even though these men have wrestled dozens of times, with a split record, Gory claims this time it's personal. Gory wanted to come back with a bang and place in the tournament and Shiima killed those hopes and dreams. Gory wants revenge against not only Shiima, but Jimmy Demarco, but has to take things one step at a time. Will Gory get his revenge? Or will Jimmy Demarco and Shiima Xion keep their reign of terror alive in Absolute Intense Wrestling?

 

-HOMELESS HANDICAP CONNECTION VS. FLIP KENDRICK/LOUIS LYNDON

Two of the most popular tag teams in AIW will face each other. Flip/Lyndon are known for their highflying ability and The Connection are known for their, well, unique traits and never say die attitudes. Matching these teams up, Flip/Lyndon scored a huge win over The Best Around at Hell On Earth 4, and while The Homeless Handicap Connection's win record is pretty empty, the crowd seems to love them. Will this be an easy win for Flip/Lyndon on their way to AIW Tag Team Titles? Or will the Homeless Handicap Connection pull off an upset?

 

-GRUDGE MATCH: DA LATIN CRIME SYNDICATE VS. ALPHA BETA DUKE

Two teams that couldn't be more opposite, Alpha Beta Duke want to drink and have a good time and Da Latin Crime Syndicate want to beat people up. They butted heads at Hell On Earth 4 when Nick Belushi saved The Homeless Handicap Connection from another Latin beat down. Nick was taken out quickly by Luis Diamante with the ring bell. This time, Nick has called backup in the form of his tag partner "KegStand" Carlton Kaz. Will Alpha Beta Duke get their sweet revenge on the Latins? Or will Da Latin Crime Syndicate take out two members of ABD instead of just one?

 

-MATT RIOT GIVEN A CHANCE TO SPEAK!

After his controversial public firing of Sami Callihan at the last show, where he called him "Scami", Absolute Owner Chandler Biggins didn't know what to do with Sami's tag partner in the Switchblade Saints, Matt Riot. Matt doesn't have a match announced, but Chandler has said he will allow Matt 5 minutes to get anything hr wants off his chest. What is Matt's future in AIW? Will he go on without his partner? Will AIW keep Matt on their roster? The answers might become clearer after Nightmare!

 

-JACK VERVILLE APPEARS AGAIN????

Not only is Jack announced for The Put In Bay show, he has also informed AIW, he will be at Nightmare to once again find a lady friend. While Marion Fontaine is on a quest to find a best friend, Jack seems to like his friends in the female variety. Will he have any luck finding some hot girls at Nightmare Before X-Mas 2?

 

AIW NIGHTMARE BEFORE X-MAS 2 WILL TAKE PLACE 12/19/2008 AT WEST PARK PARTY CENTER in Cleveland, Ohio 3556 W. 130th St. Doors open at 6:30 for VIP and 7PM for GA. Tickets can be bought at AIWrestling.com!

 

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See such stars as Jake "The Snake" Roberts, TNA's Matt Morgan, "Sweet & Sour" Larry Sweeney, Chris Hero, Elix Skipper, Low-Ki, Necro Butcher, Drake Younger, Eddie Kingston, Tammy "Sunny" Sytch, Mad Man Pondo, Tyler Black, New Jack, Claudio Castagnoli, Ricky Morton, Colt Cabana, Steve Corino and much more, only at AIWrestling.com!

 

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ABSOLUTE INTENSE WRESTLING is based in Cleveland, Ohio. Existing since May 2005, it’s run events all over Ohio and Michigan. AIW has also been featured on MTV and was awarded a Scene Magazine "Best Of Cleveland" award in 2006. AIW's official website is AIWrestling.com and it's myspace is myspace.com/AbsoluteIntenseWrestling.

 

 

 

 

[The Buzz 0]

Ric Flair is holding a training seminar for active professionals. flairseminar.com I believe is the website to sign up. Makes me wish I'd started training last year so I could attend.

[Youth N Asia 0]

it annoys me when people create accounts just to shill shows here

[Scroby 0]

I don't blame the guy for doing it, as I did it as well. It's a great way to market your promotion to people who might be in the area, but he could have made a thread for it so that ways we can all avoid the GIANT ASS POSTER PICTURES he posted in this thread.

[PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! 0]

I think that making a brand new thread would have been much more annoying.

[Scroby 0]

Why? You wouldn't have to read it as long as he titled it correctly and even if you did read it, you'd only read it once because you have no interest in the show.

 

Instead you pretty much have to skip over it every time you read this page.

[King Kamala 0]

Me and a friend have decided we're going to forego the WWE house show on the 30th to see an indy show put on by the local NWA affiliate next Sunday. The TV ads are promising a double main event, a mixed tag team match featuring a woman and a midget on each team and Koko B. Ware Vs Cactus (A second rate Mick Foley impersonator)

 

I've got to say I'm pretty pumped for this. Haven't been to an indy show in over five years and there's nothing like some good old fashioned crappy wrestling. These local indy shows are great for people watching too.

 

Fake Edit: Wow there are about five fake Koko B. Ware MySpaces who'd have thunk it?

[The Buzz 0]

Apparently a fan claims that Austin Aries beat him up at an ROH show without any physical provocation. There is a story up on it over at Gerweck with a picture showing the kid with a nice shiner. Says he is suing the company and Aries, and that his purchased dvds were not given to him once he was thrown out of the show.

[cd213 0]

Apparently a fan claims that Austin Aries beat him up at an ROH show without any physical provocation. There is a story up on it over at Gerweck with a picture showing the kid with a nice shiner. Says he is suing the company and Aries, and that his purchased dvds were not given to him once he was thrown out of the show.

 

From wrestleview.com

 

~After all this ends Austin Aries punches a fan right in the face. Paul Turner gets involved and looks to have the guy in a choke hold. Security and who looks to be Adam Pearce helps escort the guy out. No clue what started it. Turner gets a standing O and a "Next World Champ" chant.

 

As Aries is walking up the ramp, heeling it up, the fan gave him a chop. Aries got right in the fan's face and yelled at him, at which point the fan shoved Aries. Aries responded with a few punches. The fan's friend began to freak out, and was also grabbed by security.

[lee_hero 0]

would be nice to see the pic.

at the Nashville show on December 2nd, a guy was at the end of the entrance in the crowd when Aries was going back to the locker room. They ended up getting into a major confrontation and had to be separated. The guy didn't get thrown out, but as soon as the incident was over he went to the bleacher area and sat with a bunch of people that looked to be there in some other capacity than to watch the show.

 

The whole incident just seemed like a work to me then. And now with another Aries fan incident happening. I just wonder if it was the same guy?

[KanadianKrusty 0]

Jacques Rougeau went on TV this week to say that he was approached recently by Hulk Hogan to promote the Montreal show of his tour if it materializes. He also mentionned that Tito Santana would work the show (THAT I would mark out for).

 

I think this is a pretty good idea since Rougeau is drawing 3000 to 4000 on his own (well... there's Kurrgan too) in shows across the province so it wouldn't be much of a stretch to say that Hogan and a bunch of old timers could sell out the Bell Center.

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

Does anyone know when SHIMMER vol. 21 & 22 are supposed to go on sale?

[Steviekick 0]

Does anyone know when SHIMMER vol. 21 & 22 are supposed to go on sale?

 

I would assume sometime soon; weren't those shows taped during the summer?

[Scroby 0]

Does anyone know when SHIMMER vol. 21 & 22 are supposed to go on sale?

 

I would assume sometime soon; weren't those shows taped during the summer?

According to Dave Prazak the end of this month on rohwrestling.com.

[PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! 0]

ROH announced that they are making their Indy debut on 3/14. Tickets go on sale this Thursday.

 

Any of my Indiana boys going? We can meet up and have soda and pie.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

Wait... Lucha condoms? wtf?

[TMC1982 0]

If the Gooker Awards existed before the year 2000, which would be your list of dubious winners? Naturally, the award for 1990 would be out of the question since that was the very year that the Gooker itself was born! Otherwise, I would've picked the Team Challenge Series (also known as the "final nail in the coffin for the AWA) or the Black Scorpion angle.

 

I've complied my own pre-2000 Gooker list in the mean time:

1991: Turncoat Sargent Slaughter - The best way to gain heel heat for a wrestler is to exploit the real life Persian Gulf War (good one, Vince)!

 

1992: The Papa Shango-Ultimate Warrior feud complete with Jim Hellwig puking on national television.

 

1993: I'm torn between WrestleMania IX (it has to get some consideration since it's WWF/E's biggest show of the year, traditionally), the Shockmaster, and WCW's mini-movies (the so called "Unholy Trinity").

 

1994: The Undertaker's "resurrection" at the Royal Rumble and the Undertaker vs. Underfaker match at SummerSlam.

 

1995: The Dunegon of Doom-Hulk Hogan feud (it's not hot)

 

1996: A toss up between the Brian Pillman-Steve Austin gun incident and the Fake Diesal and Razor Ramon angle.

 

1997: Even though it hasn't been inducted yet, I'll add the screwy finish at Starrcade involving Sting, Hogan and Bret Hart.

 

1998: Ultimate Warrior, the WCW Years

 

1999: The Fingerpoke of Doom

[TMC1982 0]

I was at Barnes & Noble a while back, and read some of Bret Hart's autobiography "Hitman". I didn't buy it, but I did manage to catch a glimpses of Bret's basic opinion on the Ultimate Warrior. Basically, Bret called Warrior a "bum", who did the same shtick (a bunch of closelines and standing around looking for "answers" from the gods). He added that it was a joke for Vince McMahon to be pushing Warrior, but Bret figured that Vince was afraid that Hulk Hogan was "losing his shine".

 

As I said at the jump, I haven't had a chance to read all of Bret Hart's book. So I don't have any idea, what else he has to say about Warrior. But what I immediately got from reading bits and pieces of it, is that Bret was jealous of the attention that Jim Hellwig received (over "real wrestlers" like himself).

 

Bret also said that Warrior once blew off a sick kid (while everybody else was being nice to him), who was "blocking" his entrance. I hope that story about Warrior and the sick kid isn't true. That to me would be a legitimate reason to hate Warrior. I find the other stuff that people like to dog Jim Hellwig over like his nonsensical promos, his overall lack of technical or scientific wrestling ability, and his tendency to get blown up in a match to be ridiculously petty.

 

Maybe I'm in the minority of those who don't fully "get" the hate over Warrior. I mean, whether you like it or not, the guy made himself and the WWF/E a lot of money. The people responded to him (was Warrior ever truly forced down people's throats from the jump despite having minimal charisma like say, Bobby Lashley), so the most logical why was to simply push him up the ladder.

 

I don't know if Bret is aware of what Warrior said about him in his shoot interview from a few years back. If I remember correctly, Warrior said that he didn't like the way that Bret handled himself during the fallout from the Montreal incident. Warrior added that maybe Bret should've taken legal action against WWF, if he truly had issues with them. Warrior also hinted that he believed that the whole screwjob in Montreal could've been a work (since the cameras from "Wrestling in Shadows" were conveniently present during the entire proceedings).

 

 

[TMC1982 0]

I know that WrestleMania XI from 1995 is typically considered one of the more forgettable WrestleManias (although number 2 and number 9 from 1986 and 1993 respectively, are the only ones so far to be inducted to WrestleCrap). But I took a look at the WWF's intro on YouTube the other day, and I just couldn't help but think how tacky and lazily put together this piece was.

 

Gone are the days of Vince McMahon's growling, intense, amped up voice overs ("It's WrestleManiaaaaaaa!") that set up the storylines for the main events, the epic theme music, "The Grand Spectacle", and creative (for their time) visuals (such as the slot machine intro from WrestleMania IV or "The Mega Powers Explode" intro from a year later).

 

Instead for WrestleMania XI, we get a tired reprise of the first ten WrestleManias (didn't we already get that from the previous WrestleMania, since it was the tenth anniversary of the event), over the cheesy "WrestleMania Rap" (a.k.a. Linda McMahon's theme music), with the stuffy announcer listing off the stars in attendance (i.e. Lawrence Taylor, Pamela Anderson, Jenny McCarthy, Nicholas Turturro, Jonathan Taylor Thomas, etc.) ahead of the matches on the card. It almost seemed like one of those cheesy '70s variety TV show intros.

 

What I'm trying to say is that there was seemingly no imagination or incentive to try hard this time around. It was as if Vince and company were thinking, "Let's just get this thing in the can as quickly as possible."

 

[TMC1982 0]

I was reading some "FAQ" references to the National Wrestling Alliance, and how is gradually self-imploded and became a shell of itself:

http://members.tripod.com/~RCWA_2/faq.html

 

What happened to the NWA?

 

The transformation of the NWA into its current state took place simply because the promoters stopped cooperating. Problems in the NWA can be traced back into the 1970's but the major changes came in 1985. In an attempt to turn into a national promotion, Jim Crockett obtained the WTBS wrestling time slot from the WWF in March, 1985. With this exposure, combined with controlling power over the NWA title, Crockett was able to strong arm the other member promotions into complying with his requests. Many of the other promotions ended up going out of business or being bought up by Crockett. Eventually, however, Crockett too ran into problems and sold his promotion to Ted Turner. The Turner controlled WCW continued, but with the exception of using the NWA name in a co promotional effort with New Japan Pro-Wrestling, the NWA essentially no longer existed except as a paper organization.

 

In 1992 and 1993, a number of promoters applied for membership in the NWA and some were accepted. Among these promoters was Dennis Coraluzzo, who became an NWA board member and began demanding dates with the NWA champion. In the ensuing legal struggle, WCW resigned its membership, but kept the "NWA" title belt, which it had legal ownership of. Meanwhile, Coraluzzo and the remaining NWA promoters were left without any powerful members and without a champion.

 

The NWA up until the late 1980s, was (along with the WWF and AWA) one of the most prominent wrestling organizations in America if not the entire world. I to would argue that the "real" NWA died when Jim Crockett sold his super territory to Ted Turner. Turner Broadcasting had the TV time, the money, the talent (e.g. Ric Flair, Sting, Lex Luger, Road Warriors, etc.), that the other NWA promotions didn't remotely come close to obtaining. Paul Heyman and Shane Douglas pissing all over the NWA belt, and giving rise to ECW didn't help matters from a credibility standpoint.

 

By the late '90s, the NWA was all but forgotten with WWF, WCW, and ECW as the top promotions in America. The NWA is now simply a group of indy guys that walk around and beat their chest proclaiming "We're from the NWA!" The National Wrestling Alliance seems so, out of touch with the times that all that they have to so for themselves, is their past glory (which unfortunately, was intercepted and fused with World Championship Wrestling).

 

The NWA for one thing, needs to figure out a way to get on TV. And that CoLours TV network or whatever the hell it's called doesn't count. It has to be on an outlet that most of the public has remotely heard of.

[The Buzz 0]

Credit to prowrestling.com

 

 

- John Chapiewski sent in the following: I just got back from a church by the name of Victory Assembly of God down here in Columbus, GA. Lex Luger was the guest speaker and gave a truly impassioned speech about his life ( He referred to it as the “Old Lex” vs. the “New Lex”). He looked very brittle on the stage but he said this was the first time he could walk without the aid of a cane in months. He talked about his football career, wrestling career, the time he spent in prison, his stroke and paralysis, the death of Elizabeth, the demise of his marriage and his salvation through Jesus Christ. Lots of tears in the crowd. He posed for pictures afterward but he couldn’t sign autographs because he still doesn’t have total control of his motor skills. He now volunteers his time with paralysis patients and does public speaking appearances at churches. I just wanted to let you know that because he seems very sincere with his “second chance” at life.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

Good to hear he's doing a better with his health. Dude looked terrible last time I saw him.

[The Buzz 0]

Apparently he's starting DDP's yoga, but obviously a very limited version. Hopefully he can atleast get to a point where he's able to do basic tasks like writing and cooking and what not.

[DMann2003 0]

You ever rewatch a match that you no is classic, but you haven't watched in awhile, and when you finally watch it again, not only are you reminded that it IS a classic, but you actually somehow feel you've underappreciated it over the years.

 

That's Bret vs Owen WMX to me.

[Epic Reine 0]

1996: A toss up between the Brian Pillman-Steve Austin gun incident and the Fake Diesal and Razor Ramon angle.

 

The Austin/Pillman thing was actually in 1997.

 

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

The Austin/Pillman gun angle was Nov. 1996.

 

Taped 10/21/96; Ft. Wayne, IN; War Memorial Coliseum

11/4/96 - included live footage of Kevin Kelly interviewing Brian Pillman, recovering from the attack sustained at the hands of Steve Austin the week previous during WWF Superstars, and his wife Melanie at their home in Walton, KY during which it was said Steve Austin was circling the neighborhood, with Pillman then displaying a 9mm handgun and implying he would shoot Austin if he came through the door; later in the show, Austin arrived at the home and beat up two men outside before smashing his way through the front door; the live feed went out just as Austin barged in the living room and Pillman pointed the gun at him; when the feed returned, Pillman was seen being held back, with Austin then returning and being held back; as the show came to a close, Pillman was heard screaming "Let him go, I'm going to kill that son of a bitch!" and "You don't know who you're fucking with!" (Pillman's last appearance for 5 months) (Brian Pillman: Loose Cannon):

Goldust fought Barry Windham to a double disqualification

The Sultan defeated Alex Porteau via submission with the Camel Clutch

Razor Ramon II pinned Marc Mero