A Happy Medium Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 A Cena debate is for another time and place for me, as I don't watch enough WWE to begin with, let alone have WWE financial trends at my disposal. On the other hand, I find it weird that twenty years from now, these kids may be at the bar in their middle to late twenties talking about the good old days where John Cena was king. Meanwhile, I'll be in my early forties with absolutely no time on my hands to watch wrestling. I'll flip it on one night to see Steph and Trips' baby headlining shows, somehow.
Hawk 34 Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Is that really the only defense Cena haters have? That he's over with young kids (Which is essentially how WWE made money 20 years ago) and women? Despite every trend indicating they haven't lost their core fanbase which is generally 18-49 males. Don't judge the status of Cena's draw appeal by Canada. I'm just giving my opinion........I personally am annoyed and tired of John Cena.........I think I'd like him alot more if he wasn't booked the way he is. A few years ago I was totally sick of Steve Austin when he was doing that What shit........sure it was over with most people but my personal opinion was I didn't enjoy it. I have a right to an opinion of who I like and don't like right? It's not about if you like him or not, it's the detractors who persist that Cena is only over with young kids and girls despite that not being the case.
bob_barron Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Shut up Choken- WWE shows are better when they go to Canada, because usually the crowds are hot and passionate
RedJed Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Man, that show seemed bland tonight. The RVD selljob (swan song?) to Orton was well done, but otherwise, nothing that stood out that much to me, although I thought the women's wet bikini battle royal was actually fun to check out.
Boon Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Shut up Choken- WWE shows are better when they go to Canada, because usually the crowds are hot and passionate The Nazis were passionate, too.
strummer Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Melina v Candice in a pudding match at ONS per wwe.com
bob_barron Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Shut up Choken- WWE shows are better when they go to Canada, because usually the crowds are hot and passionate The Nazis were passionate, too. The Toronto crowds, they're a lot like Hitler
The Amazing Rando Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Shut up Choken- WWE shows are better when they go to Canada, because usually the crowds are hot and passionate The Nazis were passionate, too. The Toronto crowds, they're a lot like Hitler They hate Goldberg?
Team Angle Pusher Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Flair looks really really bad in this picture.
luke-o Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Melina v Candice in a pudding match at ONS per wwe.com HARDCORE~!
Wrestlefreak Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 I hate when they go to Canada. It makes the Cena haters feel they have a valid point. I LOVE when they go to Canada, purely for the crowd reactions. Having said that, us Cena haters don't need Canada to prove that Cena sucks. We already know.
Black Lushus Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 they were selling buckets of water, towel shots and pool noodle shots (noodle shots, take that how you will) like death...that is all I have to say on that subject. On the other hand, seeing Mickie in a two piece bikini was certainly exciting. oh and Michelle McCool's belly to belly suplex, FTW! oh yeah and Shane McMahon was able to subdue Cena for 5 minutes with a leg scissor...COME ON! AND he got the pin on Lashley..GIMME A BREAK! Stop putting this guy over people...he was fun 7, 8 years ago, but not anymore!
Spaceman Spiff Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 I want a moving image of that RKO. Nasty. Swiped from the DVDVR board:
2GOLD Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Only Rob would sell the RKO like a DDT. When it comes to overselling a finisher, Rob might be one of the best in the business.
Black Lushus Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 that just looks ridiculous to me...I dunno, sure it looks nasty, bump-wise, but that's not what the move is supposed to do. That ranks right up there with the Shawn Michaels Big Boot sell...however THAT sell is funny as shit.
2GOLD Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 that just looks ridiculous to me...I dunno, sure it looks nasty, bump-wise, but that's not what the move is supposed to do. Oh I agree, it's hilariously bad. Rob managed to make it look really nasty but at the same time, completely laughable in every way. You can't teach a skill like that.
NYU Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Hey guys, wasn't the point of the move that it was supposed to give RVD a concussion? You know, since Orton's whole gimmick now is he likes to give people concussions. How would Van Dam get a concussion from landing on his jaw like a normal RKO sell?
Black Lushus Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 you can get concussed from a hard hit to the jaw...seen it happen back in the high school football days several times.
cabbageboy Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 You gotta love this Orton concussion angle. It's the ideal way of having him take out a bunch of guys to build him up for HHH to squash, but yet Orton isn't really going over anyone. It's like "Hey dumbass...your opponent has a concussion and can't hardly move...PIN HIS ASS." I've always thought concussion angles were silly in wrestling. If a guy can't continue, it's easy enough to stop the match. It's called a 3 count. I missed that Khali/Umaga interview bit. Was having modem troubles and was distracted. Sounds like it was pretty damn funny though. I did see the main event though. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this angle supposed to try to get Lashley over? I don't see how him jobbing to Vince AND Shane under any circumstances could be construed as getting a guy over.
NYU Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 That's not common knowledge. I doubt most fans would understand exactly why RVD received a concussion from landing on his face. For the angle to make sense, he needed to land on the top of his head. Now....should it have been an RKO that caused him to do this? No, probably not. It's an unrealistic sell. But is it his fault that it was booked this way? Of course not. For this angle, he sold the RKO the only way he could. To give it the normal sell on his face would have made the angle afterwards rather confusing. He did what he could with the angle he was given.
Spaceman Spiff Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 The concussion was from the DDT Orton used when he dragged RVD back into the ring, as well as a punch & kick to the face, not from the RKO.
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Who else saw that sign in the front row, over toward the left of the screen a little bit that said "Smart Marks hate Cena?"
Mike wanna be Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Was that anywhere near the "Another headlock Randy?" and "This one's 4 U Cena: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" signs?
DrVenkman PhD Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Doesn't matter, "I was saying 'Boo-urns'" trumped them all (and yes they were all in the same area).
Hunter's Torn Quad Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 Doesn't matter, "I was saying 'Boo-urns'" trumped them all (and yes they were all in the same area). That was indeed the sign of the night. All year, even.
Jaxxson Mayhem Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 I don't get the "boo-urns". What's it supposed to make a reference to?
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