Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

[UZI Suicide 0]

If those details are true, this is sick.

 

What was going through his head during the time she was dead and Daniel was still alive? How was Benoit hiding the fact he killed Nancy away from Daniel for 24 hours? Did he actively know he was going to kill Daniel before he did it?

 

I really hope he left a note or told Chavo or Dean or anybody something detailing his thought process during this whole thing. I really want to know what was going on in his head when he did this.

 

This is all so very sad.

 

 

Do you really? It's such a morbid series of events. I'd be content not ever knowing the details of how he did it, or what he was thinking or anything else like that.

[St. Gabe 0]

Lately, I've had a shit-ton of horrible things happen to me. There is a list a mile long, heart break, hopelessness, fear...but this... this, puts everything in perspective. My life is hard, but it's blessed. I have parents who love me, I have a relatively safe existence, I am not addicted to anything. It makes me thankful. I think we should all be more thankful for the things we have been blessed with.

 

We are all wrestling fans, for better or for worse, it is what it is. We all loved Chris Benoit for what he gave us in the ring, that work he put in for our entertainment. It's really hard to stomach this, I think because we want so badly for that spectacular man's man we watched with such glee to be indicative of the Chris Benoit we didn't know. As sick as it is I sit here and hope that Nancy was responsible for her child's death. It's irrational, but it's what I will do because I am a fan. Until I know for sure It's all I can hope.

 

I second the sentiments of many of you tonight in saying that I am indeed sick to my stomach. It's like I've been punched in the gut, for sure. I do, though, take solace in the fact that we are here together in a weird sort of way that would only be possible in this place.

 

Rest in peace Chris... I hope you and Eddie and Owen and the rest are together telling stories...I really hope so.

[death_by_burrito 0]

I was out of town this weekend and my family ordered the ppv sunday, and when they said Benoit wasn't on because of a family emergency, I didn't think twice of it. I got home late this afternoon and was catching up on Vengeance, and I was watching mostly because I thought it was interesting when they told me Nitro won the title. While I was watching the match during the "We Want Benoit" chants, I saw the "Chris Benoit Dead" thread and was just numb. It's a really terrible situation, and my thoughts go out to the families of all involved. This is just about the saddest thing I've heard in quite a while.

 

R.I.P to Nancy, Chris and Daniel

[benn 0]

I do, though, take solace in the fact that we are here together in a weird sort of way that would only be possible in this place.

I agree.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Look at the picture of Benoit on the WWE.Com homepage.

 

 

?

 

 

www.wwe.com/

 

The black background, and the psychotic look doesn't paint a very flattering picture of Benoit.

 

LMAO...

 

That's the same picture and background they've been using all day, even before they found out about what the investigators thought. Get a life.

 

Actually, they changed the photo about halfway through RAW. Funny thing is, Benoit had the exact same look on his face in both photos, so I don't understand why they changed it. He didn't look any more "sinister" or weird in either photo.

 

Didn't really notice the photo change, but it was the same typical Benoit reaction.

 

If they wanted to do a sinister looked, they would have him smile for crying out loud. His smile was sinister enough. Bottom line, the poster is just trying to make something out of nothing.

 

WWE.Com is going to have traffic from non-wrestlers fans. They don't know that Benoit usually had a serious look on his face. Many will se that picture, and think " that guy looks like a sadistic fuck".

[Enigma 0]

What is insane is that the fans were chanting "WE WANT BENOIT" at a point where he was likely inside his house with his dead wife and dead son inside it.

 

Morbid.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

If it does turn out that he murdered his wife (no matter the reason) and SEVEN YEAR OLD child... This is not a man to be respected, revered or appreciated... no matter how many great matches he's put on.

 

The lesson here is that we all have our favorites...but we don't actually know these people.

 

If this is true, and it isn't looking good, this is a level of sickness that is reserved for the worst of our humankind.

 

I go to sleep now praying this isn't true, believing that it is...

 

And if it is...

 

to answer a previous question...

 

Benoit's legacy isn't countless great matches...it isn't Mania 20...

 

Its the fucked up motherfucker who MURDERED his loved ones.

 

...

 

And that's it.

[Enigma 0]

He's exactly right.

 

O.J. Simpson is no longer regarded as a legendary football player. He's regarded as a murderer who got away with it.

 

And O.J. didn't even kill a child in cold blood.

[LJSexay 0]

whether or not he killed one or both of them, it is beyond obvious that Chris Benoit has lived with a heavy heart for the pas couple of years. It hurts to know he - for whatever reason - killed himself. God, just typing that.. it disturbs me.

[benn 0]

What is insane is that the fans were chanting "WE WANT BENOIT" at a point where he was likely inside his house with his dead wife and dead son inside it.

 

Morbid.

Talking morbid, I keep wondering what I was doing during the same moments that a man I respected and revered was tying a slipknot to hang himself after murdering his wife and child. It almost seems like something that happened in a different world. If only it had.

[LJSexay 0]

and bps (long time no see) makes a very good point. If this turns out to be the worst case scenario everyone is hearing then it will even more impossible to watch a Chris Benoit match without being deeply saddened, and bothered.

[Jaxxson Mayhem 0]

So yeah the major thing we should really look at is the near certainty that Vince McMahon knew before the show went live that the police thought Benoit killed his family, and the strong probability that at least some of the people paying heartfelt tribute to Benoit knew as well.

 

Chavo, Dean, and Regal were just awkward to watch.

 

Many of the tributes were more about the performer and not testimonials to the person. Or in the case of Hunter and Steph, completely sidestepping everything.

 

 

I figured everyone was still in shock over the news. Was Edge crying for Benoit, or was he crying for Nancy and Daniel?

 

 

Edge's was the one that had me wondering.

[Enigma 0]

I will never, ever be able to watch the WM20 main event with the same feelings ever again.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

I want to make very clear that I don't want to think this is possibly true. But my benefit of the doubt (as is all of ours) is based on his in ring work and what people have said about him in tributes and DVDs

 

I don't want to believe that a man that has entertained me for so many years (and so much better than almost anyone else in the business) is this man that I read about today.

 

I just want to say that a man is not judged by his work...but by how he lives his life. I think the last thing we have to worry about is how this "tarnishes his legacy".

 

If this is true...

 

It's really the equivalent of being the best door to door vacuum salesman who goes home and kills his family...

 

Wrestling (and anything else for that matter) isn't real life.

 

This might just be absolutely disgusting.

 

(OFF topic, whats up LJ...haven't talked to you since just after the WDI days)

[Guest lo0p]

i was driving home today and a friend who isnt a big wrestling fan mentioned to me that benoit his wife and kid died. i was obviously stunned. i asked him how they died and he didnt know ..he just said that he heard from someone else that they died. As i was driving home i initially assumed they were killed in a car accident .. or something like that. Then i remembered that he wasn't at vengeance because of a family emergency ..i was baffled on how they died. As i drove home it never crossed my mind that benoit killed them and then commited suicide. So I get home and run to the computer only to find out i cant connect to the internet for some reason. I turn on raw and they mention benoit his wife and kid were found dead in their home. So now at this point im thinking they were all murdered . .i dunno maybe kevin sullivan killed them. .who the fukk knows. It still never crossed my mind that possibly benoit was responsible. Just now I am finally able to connect to the internet and to hear all these rumors that it was a murder suicide is absolutely shocking.

 

I always find it difficult to watch the Canadian Stampede 5 on 5 match knowing that owen bulldog pillman and hawk are no longer with us. watching the ending of wm xx with benoit and guerrero in the ring today gave me the exact same feeling.

of all the rumors that are flying around right now .. .im really hoping that the one where he strangled his son the death is not true . .i dont think it can get any worse than that.

[LJSexay 0]

Once things are confirmed I fully expect a great divide between people: those who will find a way to still revere him as a wrestling God, those who will denounce him to hell, and those just heartbroken, that this mess happened in the first place.

 

Bigger picture though is the consequences for so many: for the WWE, for those close to the Benoit family, and most of all for Chavo Guererro. I pray for him alot. Being the last person to see Eddie AND being the recipient of Benoit's texts.. someone shuld really look after him. That is just too much for a man to take.

 

(I'm doin good man, graduated with my BA in Psych and Philosophy on the 16th! and just as dazed and confused as everyone else still awake on this board. We should talk online sometime. end parentheses)

[muzz 0]

I don't think he would have killed his child out of rage or anger, but after he killed his wife and planned to take his own life, he didn't want to leave him without parents.

 

Seems like I've heard that a lot whenever a parents plans to kill themselves.

[1234-5678 0]

News hits Harts hard

 

By TODD SAELHOF, AND DAVE DORMER, SUN MEDIA

 

 

 

 

Members of the Hart family wrestled with the sudden, tragic death of Chris Benoit yesterday.

 

Legendary wrestler Bret Hart had to stop and compose himself often when talking fondly of a man considered his brother and friend.

 

"I don't know the details, and I'm not sure I even want to know," said Hart, just hours after learning of the discovery of Benoit's body - along with those of his wife and son - in his suburban Atlanta home.

 

"He was like a family member to me, and everyone in my family is taking it real hard.

 

"It's almost like reliving the whole Owen (Hart) death over again."

 

At a young age, Benoit, an Edmonton native, became a standout among many wrestling prospects who trained in the famed "dungeon" basement of the Hart family home in Calgary.

 

"Chris was always one of the good guys - a straight guy and a hard-working guy," Hart said.

 

"When you list off all the qualities of someone like Benoit, he had a lot of integrity and was a good, family man. "He was really respected and really loved by everybody."

 

Bret's older brother, Ross Hart, a producer and former part-time wrestler, further described the onetime "Canadian Crippler" as respectful, polite and very humble.

 

"We kind of adopted him when he first broke into the business in 1986," said Ross, adding Benoit was a huge fan of Stampede Wrestling and idolized the Dynamite Kid.

 

"He was a quick learner, fast on his feet and had natural strength and agility.

 

"We learned right away he'd be a natural talent."

 

And he's been an outstanding mentor to the next generation of Hart family wrestlers, said Ross and Bret's sister, Diana.

 

That's especially true of the last six months in Atlanta, where Harry Smith (son of the late Davey Boy Smith), Nattie Neidhart (daughter of Jim Neidhart), T.J. Wilson (Nattie Neidhart's fiance) and Ted Hart (Ross's nephew) had been training close to Benoit.

 

"My son Harry and the others have all been talking about all the great plans that were to come with Chris mentoring them," said an emotionally shaken Diana, the former wife of Davey Boy Smith.

 

"And they were all hoping of Bret coming back to have a Hart Foundation wrestling reunion.

 

"This is all really hard to believe."

[Mecca 0]

I have to seperate Benoit the wrestler/performer and Benoit the person......Just for my own sanity, that may seem weird to some people but for me that is how I have to do it.

[UZI Suicide 0]

I just can't do that. If the speculation is true, I can't watch a match of his again and see him as anything but a man who killed his family and himself.

[1234-5678 0]

[Guest Chindogg]

I've been up all night. Tried to sleep but this whole case is just wracking my brain.

[Mecca 0]

I just can't do that. If the speculation is true, I can't watch a match of his again and see him as anything but a man who killed his family and himself.

 

I know it's weird, but wrestling is full of scummy people and well if you didn't like people for how they acted in life you probably wouldn't have a favorite wrestler or enjoy it at all.....

 

Now what Benoit did is far worse but I still have to seperate it, I'm not asking anyone else to do that, but me personally I'll try to not remember him as a murderer because thinking and knowing that of a man that was essencially my hero from the time I was 15 till now the better oart of 12 years......would do more harm than good to me personally.

[HurriShane 0]

 

Sweet! 12 page eskimo season preview pullout inside!

[Man Who Sold The World 0]

Ya'know, I don't post on here too much, and I relatively keep quiet unless I have some sort of funny (or un-funny) picture to post, or some alcohol-induced rant to post in the Choco Socko.

But I'd like to take a moment to comment on a wrestler who was partly responsible for me keeping up-to-date on wresting to this very day. As an avid wrestling fan going on twenty years now, I was devoted to following great wrestlers, and Chris Benoit was the epitome of Great.

He worked his ass off and made wrestlers around him better because of that, something very few veterans can do nowadays. In a profession, where competition is few and far between, and "Entertainment" reigns over athleticism, it was good to see a guy stick to what made this business so damn good: Wrestling. The situation aside for a moment, we have no idea what this profession puts on an individual. The amount of hard labor day in and day out it does to the body, mind, and spirit, and to have to deal with personal issues as well, is nothing short of superhuman. My prayers go out to Benoit's immediate family and his close friends. It's just a surreal situation and one I'd never thought would affect me the way that it has done. I've been to several wrestling shows, met and spoke with Benoit personally at Autograph sessions and conventions and he just seemed so humble. I never knew the guy, but I felt a connection with him as a fan, as I felt I got to know him more each time he stepped into the ring. Obviously, I was incorrect. I haven't been as shocked as a fan since Owen Hart's passing (where I consoled my mother whom, being a fan along with me, cried for several hours as TV news stations played the breaking news). I'm really at a loss for words, but seeing as how I work the night shift, and I can't sleep this situation off, I'd thought it best that I attempt to let out everything I'm thinking right now. Just a tragic situation and my prayers are with everyone in this matter.

 

If anything, it shows that unity is still around, as we've all gathered on this newsboard; friends, strangers, maybe even enemies, and embraced this situation with laughter, sorrow, and shock as a family would. Geez, I don't know man, I'm trying to end this like a journalist would, but I can't. I'll just say, I hope they get Chavo Guerrero some assistance, because I know that this man is at the breaking point. God I feel for him.

 

R.I.P Chris, Daniel, and Nancy.

[Golgo 13 0]

I just can't do that. If the speculation is true, I can't watch a match of his again and see him as anything but a man who killed his family and himself.

 

I know it's weird, but wrestling is full of scummy people and well if you didn't like people for how they acted in life you probably wouldn't have a favorite wrestler or enjoy it at all.....

 

Now what Benoit did is far worse but I still have to seperate it, I'm not asking anyone else to do that, but me personally I'll try to not remember him as a murderer because thinking and knowing that of a man that was essencially my hero from the time I was 15 till now the better oart of 12 years......would do more harm than good to me personally.

 

The problem being, and it was something that was brought up primarily during the McMahon angle talks, is that there's a fine line in wrestling, a blurred part there where real life bleeds into what you see on camera and vice versa. Especially for a guy like Benoit who put himself out there, wrestled under his real name, was fairly close to a 'real guy' type and was said to have many similarities between his on-screen and off camera personas, it becomes hard to divorce the person from the performer.

 

Now thinking back on it I can't believe someone said Montreal will continue to be regarded as the story in wrestling. This is on a whole other level and is testament to how disturbing the lifestyle of what we follow really is. Benoit will surely make a bigger splash in the bubble wrestling exists in, for both the wrestlers and performers, and the mainstream. It honestly makes Montreal look really small in retrospect. We all know about the deaths, drug use and whatnot, and it seemingy happens at a higher rate in wrestling than anywhere else, but I'm afraid to say if what's been said is true this situation took things to another level.

 

Though the death of Eddie and the Wellness Police was the first sign of change, WWE didn't really see it through, as seen in the case of someone like Masters. Now it falls on WWE, TNA, etc., to use the second major, major, major death in two years as a true impetus for change so that this, another suicide, another drug overdose doesn't happen again.

 

Seriously has there EVER been anything else like this? The answer is no or at least nothing of this particular circumstance, as well known and with potential, business changing magnitude. Snuka, Bruiser Brody, Owen, Guerrero, yeah, but perhaps none of them will change the way things are run for years to come like Benoit will.... unless WWE drops the ball again.

[Mecca 0]

I personally don't believe anything will change in how wrestlers are handled in their health and things like that....they're treated like animals basically race horses or dogs or circus type.......you are used when you are valuable you take drugs do unsavory things to stay there longer and then all the hard work and strain and stress you put yourself through your body gives out and you die or you are put out to pasture for the next guy.......

 

That is basically the business......I don't see it changing anytime soon unfortunatly.

[Guest Kliqster]

Per DVDVR, per Wade

 

Keller's Audio Update

 

-He said it is being reported he suffocated his wife and son, perhaps a day apart. And then hung himself. Late Sunday night, he sent a strange text message to a person within the WWE. The police broke into the house at 2:30 pm today and found them in separate rooms.

 

-Vince called all the wrestlers backstage this afternoon for an emergency meeting. Wrestler were already bawling and crying. A longtime WWE wrestler said it was the most emotional state he's ever seen the wrestlers.

 

-There was a really uneasy feeling Sunday. Everybody felt something was wrong.

 

-One wrestler said "It was bound to happen". There was a strong suspicion backstage that Benoit did this right away. There was also a suspicion that Nancy had done it. They had a volatile relationship and everyone knew it.

 

-Hardly anybody backstage really knew Benoit. He had a very small inner circle that one time included Eddy Guerrero and recently included Chavo Guerrero. But even they had a certain psychological distance from Benoit. Everyone could tell that something wasn't right lately with Benoit.

 

-He said that he was a very nice and pleasant person to be around, but a person close to Benoit said that Chris had "snap potential".

 

-A lot of steroids were found in the Benoit household, and Benoit has had bouts with "roid rages". WWE may suffer publicly because of their unenforced "Wellness Policy".

 

EDIT: Meltz

 

Chavo got the texts.

 

Tapings will go forward tomorrow with no tributes to Benoit nor continuation of the McMahon angle.

[AntiLeaf33 0]

I have to seperate Benoit the wrestler/performer and Benoit the person......Just for my own sanity, that may seem weird to some people but for me that is how I have to do it.

No, thats what I have to do to keep my sanity

[geniusMoment 0]

Fuck Chris Benoit. I can't believe I watched that piece of shit get a memorial show last night. It's like watching OJ get a memorial show where everyone says what a great guy he is. Fuck Benoit, I'm sure he's burning in hell right now.