Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

[The Robfather 0]

Mr. McMahon will address wrestling fans tonight on Sci Fi Channel’s live Extreme Championship Wrestling event. He also plans to address speculation that Mr. Benoit’s actions were the result of steroid use.

 

So, Chris' steroid use will be defended by Vince? Gotta protect the culture of the business, I suppose.

[RonL21 0]

D.A. RELEASES MORE GRUESOME DETAILS OF NANCY'S DEATH

 

"Her hands were bound together, her feet were bound together, and there was a little blood over her face," District Attorney Scott Ballard told ABC News in an interview after the press conference. "The medical examiner found bruising on the small of her back and bruising on the front of her body consistent with being crushed up against the floor."

 

Not trying to joke, but aren't those injuries consistent with a crippler crossface?

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Same here, oddly enough. His knee at the small of her back is what came to mind. But, during that move, isn't the front part of the body raised up slightly? Only thing I can think of is she somehow rolled off the office table - or whatever she was on - hence the bruising on her front.

 

 

One option that would bruise the front of the body and small of the back would be the sharpshooter.

 

Stupid idea, I know, but given there are now reports that he may have used a chokehold on his son (see above), it's possible.

 

STFU followed by a five-knuckle-shuffle?

My Laugh of the Fuckin Day!!!

 

Thank you sir

[Downhome 0]

http://video.canada.com/Video.aspx?23863&ch=global

 

That interview with Bret Hart sure is something else...

I must have missed something, or must be out of the loop, just seemed like a regular interview to me.

 

His answers about steroids. Most guys within the business either avoid those questions or flat out say now. There, Bret flat out says that it's possible roid rage had something to do with it, and then basicly mocks WWE's testing system.

 

[StrapFinlay 0]

Mr. McMahon will address wrestling fans tonight on Sci Fi Channel’s live Extreme Championship Wrestling event. He also plans to address speculation that Mr. Benoit’s actions were the result of steroid use.

 

So, Chris' steroid use will be defended by Vince? Gotta protect the culture of the business, I suppose.

 

If it's like the WWE statement realsed an hour or so ago, it will claim his last test was negative, the steroids found were on prescription, and that his actions seem premeditated and not a "rage".

 

[humongous2002 0]

The sad thing is that the media is already making this tragedy into a steroid issue instead of getting their facts straight, wrestlers are out on the road 300+ days out of the year and they need to take a lot of painkillers to perform every single night, drugs to wake them up and drugs to put them to sleep. The Roid accusation is not a valid one since I don't see bodybuilders or guys like HHH or Hogan going out on a rampage.

[AndrewTS 0]

undersized? Chris himself while having a hulking body was a pint of a man

 

...for a wrestler.

 

The average height of an adult male in North America is about 5'9"--and that's the highest in the world.

[StrapFinlay 0]

The sad thing is that the media is already making this tragedy into a steroid issue instead of getting their facts straight, wrestlers are out on the road 300+ days out of the year and they need to take a lot of painkillers to perform every single night, drugs to wake them up and drugs to put them to sleep. The Roid accusation is not a valid one since I don't see bodybuilders or guys like HHH or Hogan going out on a rampage.

 

Hogan would keep kicking out of the suicide attempt...

 

 

And the average height is about 5ft10.5

[cameron chaos 0]

So now it looks like Benoit hit Nancy on the head, tied her up and then knelt on her back, his bodyweight causing her to end up with bruising on her front from compression and he then choked her to death with a cord from behind. He then wrapped her body in a towel. He then spend several hours alone or possibly went to bed before he decide to go to his son's bedroom and asphyxiate him by smothering him in bed with a plastic bag. He probablt texted Chavo for the first time. There were no visible signs of struggle so Benoit either overpowered his son completely or smothered in his sleep. He left Bibles by the dead bodies proceeded to go to his weights room to find something heavy enough as a counterweight to support his 200lbs plus of bodyweight as he hung himself. He wrapped a cord attached to a weights deck around his neck and let the weights drop, hanging himself in the process.

 

He obviously had been experiencing violent mood swings since 2003 when nancy first reported an incident, took time off for "personal reasons" and apparently had been not himself, acting distant and as if something was eating at him.

 

I think it's obvious why he was shooting Daniel up with HGH. He'd had to work twice as hard in his life and had to compromise his own health more than most others because of his height to achieve what he did in life and didn't want his son to have to struggle due to physical shortcomings. Is it completely fucked up and likely would have caused health complications and possible gigantism in later life, as well as out of proportion features and internal organs? More than likely, but it doesn't seem like Benoit was playing with a full deck for a while. He probably though he was doing Daniel a favour in the long term by giving him a head start so he'd grow tall despite his father's genes.

[The Niggardly King 0]

So yeah, the whole shooting his kid up with growth hormone would explain his big forehead.

[AndrewTS 0]

All joking aside...

 

Chavo must be thinking if he stayed, three lives may be saved...he must be thinking that..he's human

 

Chavo must seriously be in really bad shape...Wrestling can only do so much to relax someone

 

I never even thought of that before. That's terrible to have to go through.

 

No matter what he could or couldn't have done, he's probably going to put some of the blame on this for himself, thinking that he should have seen the warning signs, should have done something to prevent this.

 

[Dandy 0]

You guys are incorrectly remembering what Chavo said. Chavo said he stayed there a week ago, and Benoit caught his flight but he (Chavo) missed his. They went out on the road for a house show circuit, and had dinner one night. Chavo went home, and Benoit went home. Then he started talking about talking to him on the phone the night before he died. Chavo did not stay there the day before the murders started.

[cabbageboy 0]

Yeah I don't think Vince owes anyone an apology about the show last night. Watching it I wasn't sure what to think, but hell they had to air SOMETHING. I guess the only other alternative is just air a test pattern for 3 hours, but that makes no sense. At that point they didn't have all the facts and it might have been an odd show, but not disrespectful.

 

As far as Chavo goes, I don't blame him for anything. Those messages were a little bizarre, but the guy was getting ready for a PPV match and might have glanced at them, maybe thought it was mildly curious, and then went about his business. Then as time elapsed and he heard nothing else from Benoit he realized there was something else going on.

 

I dunno. I have to say that even before this while I respected Benoit's ring efforts I was never a real huge fan of his due to some reservations I had about his character. The guy basically started nailing another man's wife due to a storyline contrivance, but I don't recall anyone on the net condemning Benoit for this. If anything a lot of people complained about Sullivan "burying Benoit" or whatever. Nevermind that Sullivan might have been justifiably pissed off. If anything I am amazed Sullivan was as professional about it as he was.

 

Since I was never Benoit's biggest fan, I'm not here to mourn him nor cuss him and badmouth him. He was obviously quite disturbed under the surface and it's a pity he had to kill his family rather than just hanging himself a la Mike Awesome and being done with it.

 

I do know that things in WWE won't ever quite seem the same after this.

[Enigma 0]

This whole yanking merchandise and apologizing for the tribute show is crazy.

 

The guy deserves to be remembered. His final hours and actions were the result of a mental condition that may or may not be influenced by steriods.

Absolutely not. There is no justification for celebrating the life of a man who will murder his wife and son and then be a pussy enough to kill himself instead of face the consequences.

 

His wrestling skill means just about as much as O.J. Simpson's football skill has meant for the last 13 years.

 

Chris Benoit is a piece of shit and deserves no celebrations or tributes whatsoever.

[skullman80 0]

This whole yanking merchandise and apologizing for the tribute show is crazy.

 

The guy deserves to be remembered. His final hours and actions were the result of a mental condition that may or may not be influenced by steriods.

Absolutely not. There is no justification for celebrating the life of a man who will murder his wife and son and then be a pussy enough to kill himself instead of face the consequences.

 

His wrestling skill means just about as much as O.J. Simpson's football skill has meant for the last 13 years.

Chris Benoit is a piece of shit and deserves no celebrations or tributes whatsoever.

 

Bolded for truth.

[Steve J. Rogers 0]

I dunno. I have to say that even before this while I respected Benoit's ring efforts I was never a real huge fan of his due to some reservations I had about his character. The guy basically started nailing another man's wife due to a storyline contrivance, but I don't recall anyone on the net condemning Benoit for this. If anything a lot of people complained about Sullivan "burying Benoit" or whatever. Nevermind that Sullivan might have been justifiably pissed off. If anything I am amazed Sullivan was as professional about it as he was.

 

Heh, that is true with a lot of the IWC's favorites though. They will destroy a Hogan or a HHH or a Nash for various reasons (holding back younger talent, getting jobs for their cronies, nailing the bosses daughter, ect) but it an Angle or a Jericho or an Austin did any of that stuff they hate about they will somehow justify it, i.e. if an IWC favorite was guilty of refusing to do a job the IWC generally says that "Well consider who he was supposed to job to? Would that REALLY be for the best?"

[The Niggardly King 0]

Chavo is really creepy looking back on his memorial

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8bbTFGZ9UE

 

Like someone said at DVDVR, "I'D TRUST HIM WITH MY KIDS! INNOCENCE INNOCENCE!" passive-aggressive attempt at diffusing the probability of Benoit doing all that killing.

 

Just really creepy.

[RonL21 0]

You guys are incorrectly remembering what Chavo said. Chavo said he stayed there a week ago, and Benoit caught his flight but he (Chavo) missed his. They went out on the road for a house show circuit, and had dinner one night. Chavo went home, and Benoit went home. Then he started talking about talking to him on the phone the night before he died. Chavo did not stay there the day before the murders started.

He still was the recipient of those Texts...

 

I would imagine he's taking this the hardest out of anyone regardless

[bob_barron 0]

I do, and always will, refuse to believe this story no matter how many times it is proven to be true.

 

Another TSM genius.

 

Do you have anything to add to this thread at all other then OMG DEATHS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME

[Dips 0]

So I take it Vince won't be going to his funeral?

[Enigma 0]

No man who kills their defenseless wife and 7-year-old child and doesn't have the guts to face a punishment for what he did, there is no words to describe. His wrestling accomplishments mean jack shit anymore.

 

It really pains me to say this since I was a rabid fan of him for 15 years, but let me re-iterate.

 

Chris Benoit is a total piece of shit and deserves no celebrations or tributes whatsoever.

[bob_barron 0]

This whole yanking merchandise and apologizing for the tribute show is crazy.

 

The guy deserves to be remembered. His final hours and actions were the result of a mental condition that may or may not be influenced by steriods.

 

He killed a seven year old.

[CanadianChris 0]

This whole yanking merchandise and apologizing for the tribute show is crazy.

 

The guy deserves to be remembered. His final hours and actions were the result of a mental condition that may or may not be influenced by steriods.

 

He killed a seven year old.

Look who you're arguing with.

[Mik 0]

I do, and always will, refuse to believe this story no matter how many times it is proven to be true.

 

Another TSM genius.

 

Do you have anything to add to this thread at all other then OMG DEATHS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME

 

That's not what I'm saying there at all.

 

Read what he wrote.

 

It's beyond stupid.

[bob_barron 0]

I agree, but it seems like you've done nothing but come in here and say that or just mock people.

 

Seeing Benoit celebrate with Nancy and the kids at WMXX is just...fucked up.

[Boxer 0]

The story just gets weird by the minute, so the reports were right that it was going to get more disturbing. I seriously wonder that they are going to do tonight at the tapings and ECW.

[Guest lo0p]

i wonder how many wrestlers will attend his funeral .. .and how the crowd in edmonton will react (i think there is a smackdown/ecw taping in a few weeks)

[The Man in Blak 0]

Yeah I don't think Vince owes anyone an apology about the show last night. Watching it I wasn't sure what to think, but hell they had to air SOMETHING. I guess the only other alternative is just air a test pattern for 3 hours, but that makes no sense. At that point they didn't have all the facts and it might have been an odd show, but not disrespectful.

 

Why not open the show live with condolences for those close to the Benoit family and then play a re-run of last week's Raw?

 

[bob_barron 0]

Because last week's RAW involved the death angle

[Celtic Jobber 0]

Here's the report from Studio B with Shepherd Smith:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW2uhCmOn4s

 

He mentions how Benoit idolized Dynamite Kid, it seems like one of the better-researched American news pieces I've seen on the case so far...

[Dogbert 0]

It was only a matter of time before the rampant steroid and drug use in wrestling led to something like this. Sure, the many deaths from within the business were horrible, but now it's impacted innocents, and that should be enough for people to look inside themselves and ask why they're helping support an industry that basically forces reckless drug abuse on its workers. I have done this, and have made the decision not to watch WWE's programs, order their PPVs, or buy their merchandise again. Yes, it's just me, and it's not going to affect anything, but I hope that others will come to the same conclusion that I have.