Guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Posted July 22, 2007 His ankle's been screwed for weeks. Usually he's very dangerous and a guy you don't want to give space.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted July 22, 2007 Report Posted July 22, 2007 In any event, this game interested me enough to want to see more Galaxy games, but too bad I'm horrible at finding out channel and broadcasting times for the soccer games.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted July 22, 2007 Report Posted July 22, 2007 Chicago Fire's average attendance throughout the years: regular season/playoffs * 1998: 17,887/22,677 * 1999: 16,016/8,197 * 2000: 13,387/8,431 * 2001: 16,388/11,239 * 2002: 12,922/9,434 * 2003: 14,005/14,961 * 2004: 17,153/missed playoffs * 2005: 17,238/11,493 * 2006: 14,088/10,217 * All-Time: 15,419 Why does their attendence go down in the playoffs? That's not a good trend. Playoff games do not have the benefit of advance promotion and sales. Part of selling attendance for regular season games is groups, both in attendance and in party boxes. Minor league baseball has the same problem. Unless the playoffs are particularly important (the big four), fans don't tune in to them. The higher numbers relative to regular season attentance the last few years is encouraging.
Guest • Posted July 22, 2007 Report Posted July 22, 2007 Just let me know when people make pilgrimages to the hallowed ground of the Home Depot Center, or write Saturday Night Live sketches about fans of the Columbus Crew.
Spaceman Spiff Posted July 22, 2007 Report Posted July 22, 2007 My cousin works for the Galaxy (in ticket sales). He hasn't met Beckham yet, but he's hoping to do so soon.
Prophet of Mike Zagurski Posted July 22, 2007 Report Posted July 22, 2007 I have been to HD Center. It's a really nice arena/soccer field.
TheFranchise Posted July 22, 2007 Report Posted July 22, 2007 Question for the people who have seen Beckham play before, does he usually play like this? He looked so lifeless out there. Didn't he play only 12 minutes, injured, and STILL got injured by Steve Sidwell?
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted July 22, 2007 Report Posted July 22, 2007 I was talking before that. He got tackled like 9 minutes into that 12 minute stint.
Guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Posted July 22, 2007 HD Center is a great place. Too bad the traffic situation they have set up is worse than that of any other sporting event I've been to. It's only like that when the place is sold out, but it's still bad when it's not. It makes Dodger Stadium's traffic problems look like nothing.
Kurt Angle Mark Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Beckham scores on a free kick in his first start
razazteca Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Was this one of those Super Liga games?
Brett Favre Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 And he got a yellow card too. He's all over the place!
Mike wanna be Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 And he got a yellow card too. He's all over the place! He's 2/3 of the way to a soccer-themed Gordie Howe hat trick!
Guest kylegavin Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Heres a clip showing Beckhams best moments in his career if any of you would like to see how he made his name.
Guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Was this one of those Super Liga games? Yes.
Murmuring Beast Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Yes, Americans don't like sawker because there aren't guaranteed goals but in the 47 games I saw in person last season, only one game didn't have a single goal. Last Saturday I saw one of the most exciting finishes to a game I've ever witnessed in the flesh as the team I support, Queen's Park, scored in the third minute of stoppage time to win 3-2. People were throwing themselves all over the place (see below). Football is the best game in the world, I'm sad that Americans don't realise that. Goal celebration I'm the psycho with the black and white scarf, hanging over the take-away ad.
Broward83 Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Was this one of those Super Liga games? Yes. ...now I can only hope for Beckham and the Galaxy to beat Pachuca to make me a happy man. I'm still livid over Ching hitting the fucking side post and then Ngwenye pulling some bullshit by trying to sneak the ball past Pachuca's goalie with some soft little loft kick that easily got blocked.
Boon Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Yes, Americans don't like sawker because there aren't guaranteed goals... I really don't think that's it.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Yes, Americans don't like sawker because there aren't guaranteed goals but in the 47 games I saw in person last season, only one game didn't have a single goal. Last Saturday I saw one of the most exciting finishes to a game I've ever witnessed in the flesh as the team I support, Queen's Park, scored in the third minute of stoppage time to win 3-2. People were throwing themselves all over the place (see below). Football is the best game in the world, I'm sad that Americans don't realise that. Goal celebration I'm the psycho with the black and white scarf, hanging over the take-away ad. As someone (Czech?) mentioned earlier, the big problem with American soccer is that the world's best players don't play in this country. The sports that are popular (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL) in this country all feature the best players in their respective sports.
Guest Soriano's Torn Quad Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Yes, Americans don't like sawker because there aren't guaranteed goals Noooo, Americans don't like soccer (and certainly not "sawker" with my nasal Great Lakes accent) because it's neither an established part of our cultural fabric, nor does it feature the world's best talent in our own league. But keep perpetuating this "u dont get teh beauty cuz da scorz 2 low" nonsense in spite of football, baseball, and hockey featuring defensive wars of attrition as well. Jai alai is exciting as hell yet unappreciated by everyone north of Miami, but at least we're only frustrating the Basques, and not all of Cultured Europe with our failure to embrace it.
Craig Th Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 I think soccer is one of those games where you need to be there in person to like it. Which I hear is the same case for hockey.
hyperchord24 Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 ESPN paraphrase: "So, he's apparently a good passer."
razazteca Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 You know why gringos are indifferent to futbol its because of the cheap fouls like for instance if a midfielder ran into the defender falling down in the process the guy is going to sell it like he broke his leg and roll around for 2 minutes then the coaching staff comes out with the "miracle" sponge or the "can of healing" and it would be all better. Now they do this because: 1. they are tired and need a timeout 2. want a free kick 3. they are girly men
HarleyQuinn Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 One of the things that turned me off of soccer even more were the blatant dives during the World Cup. I don't mind watching a game here and there but knowing that players were diving over the barest of hits irked me.
Guest Vitamin X Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Yes, Americans don't like sawker because there aren't guaranteed goals but in the 47 games I saw in person last season, only one game didn't have a single goal. Last Saturday I saw one of the most exciting finishes to a game I've ever witnessed in the flesh as the team I support, Queen's Park, scored in the third minute of stoppage time to win 3-2. People were throwing themselves all over the place (see below). Football is the best game in the world, I'm sad that Americans don't realise that. Goal celebration I'm the psycho with the black and white scarf, hanging over the take-away ad. As someone (Czech?) mentioned earlier, the big problem with American soccer is that the world's best players don't play in this country. The sports that are popular (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL) in this country all feature the best players in their respective sports. The WBC proved that the world's best baseball players don't necessarily play here. The Olympics proved the world's best basketball players don't necessarily play here. Several other teams internationally compete with and beat the USA's hockey team. The only sport Americans truly have to themselves is the NFL, and that's because it's mostly played here. Beckham playing with MLS helps out, but what we really need to do, especially being the moneygrubbing capitalists we are I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet- just throw money at some great players abroad and bring them here. I mean, tons of money. Expand the league to some better cities, and then maybe everything else will follow. A TV deal couldn't hurt, either. I mean network TV too, not ESPN.
Mike wanna be Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 The field's too big. Cut it in half and we'll love soccer...it's just too slow paced for us. Baseball & football are very rhythmic with their "action" moment (a guy batting, a play being executed, etc.) Soccer just spends too much time with big kicks going back and forth all over the damn place, too much time setting up corners & free kicks & goal kicks (and coincidentally too much time pretending to have a leg ripped off to get said kick opportunities), and not enough time with guys barrel-assing to the goal trying to bury a shot. Shorten the field and ditch offsides (just to open up the game that much more, plus with a smaller field it's a less feasible rule) and the US will love it.
Guest Soriano's Torn Quad Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 No, the best generally do play here. The World Baseball Classic was a meaningless spring training exhibition. The best international basketball players, like Nowitzki, Ginobili, et al., are here, not there. The best hockey talent from around the world is in the NHL (and for this we should shift gears from "American" to "North American" to include Canada, which, in spite of the influx of visor-wearing pansy-ass Finns, still supplies most of the players). Even if they're not Americans, they're playing in (North) America's leagues, and that just isn't and won't be the case for MLS. It's a complicated issue. It's never gonna work.
HarleyQuinn Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 The field's too big. Cut it in half and we'll love soccer...it's just too slow paced for us. Baseball & football are very rhythmic with their "action" moment (a guy batting, a play being executed, etc.) Soccer just spends too much time with big kicks going back and forth all over the damn place, too much time setting up corners & free kicks & goal kicks (and coincidentally too much time pretending to have a leg ripped off to get said kick opportunities), and not enough time with guys barrel-assing to the goal trying to bury a shot. Shorten the field and ditch offsides (just to open up the game that much more, plus with a smaller field it's a less feasible rule) and the US will love it. I am watching the A Villa vs. Liverpool game from the English Premiere League and have noticed/observed a few things. 1: It seems like players "set up" too much during the game, rather than passing to an open fielder and just attacking towards the net. It seems almost like the game is more... tactical rather than instinctual if that makes any sense? 2: The play stops periodically to set up free kicks, etc. with no explanation unless the commentator chimes in to explain what happened. Granted, I don't follow soccer much but the constant stopping slows the pace of the game dramatically and not knowing why is annoying (along with the lack of a clear notification unless you see the ref holding up that yellow flag). 3: The players themselves don't seem to "help" each other out much. On throw ins (one in particular) guys stand around rather than moving and trying to create space. Same with positioning where I'll see 4-5 guys all bunched around an area on defense when they get the ball rather than 1-2 sprinting upfield as a means of possibly attacking the net. I loved watching the Argentina/Brazil games during the World Cup because they constantly tried to attack the net when possible, when then waiting for an opportunity to open itself up.
Maztinho Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 Stylistically European soccer seems to be more strategic and "ball control" to use an American Football term, while watching Brazil is like the "run and shoot" or the WAC in the late 80s Early 90's of pure offense. There are different strategies out there. If we got more Brazilian League games stateside I think people would see a fast paced entertaining sport.
razazteca Posted August 16, 2007 Report Posted August 16, 2007 3: The players themselves don't seem to "help" each other out much. On throw ins (one in particular) guys stand around rather than moving and trying to create space. Same with positioning where I'll see 4-5 guys all bunched around an area on defense when they get the ball rather than 1-2 sprinting upfield as a means of possibly attacking the net. Would that be the formation of the wall during free or corner kicks?
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