Lt. Al Giardello Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 Oh. Sorry. I meant without the fence grab Tito would have won by 1 point. Still doesn't change the original point I made in the previous post... Who would've known if Tito would've won Round 1 had he not grabbed the fence. Rashad was in the midst of taking him down, which would've score points and might've changed the pace of the fight. Either way, Rashad fought pretty stupid in the 1st fight. There is no doubt in my mind he would fight a much better fight in the rematch and win more clearly. There were a lot of mistakes I've seen him make in that fight, like going for a double leg takedown when Tito's legs were very far apart and not letting his hands go a lot more. I mean if he let his hands go, Tito's just going to stand there and not do anything really like he always does usually when punches are thrown at him. The way I saw the fight, Tito saved himself from losing the round, and more likely the fight by grabbing the fence.
Lord of The Curry Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 Just like Rashad was saved by the bell when Tito had him in the guillotine, right?
Lt. Al Giardello Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 Just like Rashad was saved by the bell when Tito had him in the guillotine, right? That's what made the round 9-9. I would've perfered to see a Ortiz/Evans rematch over this fight, but Ortiz perfers to go on reality shows with Donald Trump than fight.
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted October 28, 2007 Report Posted October 28, 2007 Even if Rashad got that takedown, Tito still had the round in my opinion. He did more, and the guillotine sweep was more effective than a takedown. But whatever, Rashad should be fighting at 185 anyway. So should Bisping actually.
starvenger Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 Just like Rashad was saved by the bell when Tito had him in the guillotine, right? That's what made the round 9-9. I would've perfered to see a Ortiz/Evans rematch over this fight, but Ortiz perfers to go on reality shows with Donald Trump than fight. Yeah, I still don't really understand why a Celebrity Apprentice other than to stroke Trump's ego. Does Trump even know who Tito Ortiz is? '"Punishment Athletics"? Sounds like a bad name - it'll never work...'
Lord of The Curry Posted November 3, 2007 Report Posted November 3, 2007 Dave Terrell OUT as fucking PREDICTED due to INNNNNNNNNNJURY. Title contender my Irish ass, Dana. Say hello to the StrikeForce 185 lb division Dave.
Lt. Al Giardello Posted November 3, 2007 Report Posted November 3, 2007 David Terrell is a fucking little bitch, that is all.
Just call me Dan Posted November 4, 2007 Report Posted November 4, 2007 I have seen nothing out of that guy. He came in, got a fluke win on Lindland and got schooled by Tanner. Beat a tomato can later on and never has been seen again. How can he be a title contender? I guess the Middleweight division is that bad other than the top guy who may be the best in the organization. I really wanted to see something from Terrell. Your luck can't be that bad. It just can't.
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted November 4, 2007 Report Posted November 4, 2007 Who else do you think would come in to be the replacement, at MW, with a few weeks left before the card is about to show? Menno Joe will be taking his spot.
LooseCannon25 Posted November 4, 2007 Report Posted November 4, 2007 Terrell is ALWAYS injured. Good lord. As ssomeone said earlier, besides that fluke ko win over Lindland the guy hasn't done shit. Dana should just cut that dead weight and focus on the more reliable more proven middleweights.
RavishingRickRudo Posted November 4, 2007 Report Posted November 4, 2007 Dirte/Herman is actually an awesome fight. Probably superior to Terrell/Herman.
Lt. Al Giardello Posted November 4, 2007 Report Posted November 4, 2007 Dirte/Herman is actually an awesome fight. Probably superior to Terrell/Herman. Dirte already submitted Herman, I hope he does it again.
Mik Posted November 4, 2007 Report Posted November 4, 2007 Well, it's a lot easier fight for Doerkson then his last one, that's for sure.
Just call me Dan Posted November 4, 2007 Report Posted November 4, 2007 Terrell has fought ONCE in 33 months. WOW
Brush with Greatness Posted November 5, 2007 Report Posted November 5, 2007 I imagine that guys such as Joe Dirt, Diesel Riggs, etc. probably see Terrell's name on the card and start to train as if they would be facing that opponent, knowing that the call will come soon or later for one of them.
Lord of The Curry Posted November 17, 2007 Report Posted November 17, 2007 Gono vs McCrory- Staredown of The Year
Mik Posted November 17, 2007 Report Posted November 17, 2007 You have no idea how bad I'm hoping it makes TV.
Lord of The Curry Posted November 17, 2007 Report Posted November 17, 2007 I'd rather see Alves/Lytle make air above that but I wouldn't complain about Gono/Kitty making air either.
Mik Posted November 18, 2007 Report Posted November 18, 2007 Well with Randy cornering Karo - I hope it's a good sign towards him taking the fight with Nog.
Youth N Asia Posted November 18, 2007 Report Posted November 18, 2007 reading the show, may find some fights online tomorrow. I really hope this ppv does bad numbers, let Dana know he can't put so-so cards together and ask $40. Bisping vs Rashad is not a main event fight
Mik Posted November 18, 2007 Report Posted November 18, 2007 Yeah, this sucked. And fucking Tamdan lost. Just a disaster.
Lord of The Curry Posted November 18, 2007 Report Posted November 18, 2007 Another horrible event. Yikes, stem the flow here. While this wasn't exactly a raging success I wouldn't call it bad. We saw a KO, two sweet subs and (IMO) a good main event. Edgar/Fisher wasn't bad but it was very "Lather, Rinse, Repeat" but people will give most of the blame to Edgar while Fisher deserves fault (or credit) for having a very active botttom game. Karo mailed in the worst performance of his career and while Chonan isn't a slouch there was never a chance in the fight of him getting the win. I thought Ed/Dirte was good especially with the triangle at the end of round two as if there'd have been 10 more seconds in the round Ed would've been done. I personally enjoyed seeing "the questions" about Houston get answered as beating Jardine and Sakara were overrated to begin with. The main event performances on the part of both men were solid, Bisping's more so then Rashad's. Seeing how badly Rashad gassed in this fight I'd be confident in saying that if he were to face somebody at 205 that could neutralize his takedowns and stand with him to the point where Bisping did they'd beat him. Lauzon's choke was crazy awesome. Gono's tights were hotsex and the armbar was gully. Christ, sometimes MMA fans gets spoiled.
RavishingRickRudo Posted November 18, 2007 Report Posted November 18, 2007 It wasn't bad, I don't think any fights were outright boring, but it wasn't all that exciting. In the middle show. I am pissed they didn't show more prelims and structure their time better. There were no title fights, so it's unacceptable to 15 minute fights take up over 30 minutes of tv time. And Frankie Edger. Prospect turned Condender. Big win, sweet wrestling.
AmericanDragon Posted November 18, 2007 Report Posted November 18, 2007 I actually had this edit in a minute after my previous post: edit: But I bet Lord of The Curry will come in and call it a "solid" event. And I decided against it because I honestly thought you wouldn't even be able to defend this ppv, but here you are calling me spoiled. UFC 77 (excluding the main event) was a crappy event but UFC 78 was just pure shit.
Lord of The Curry Posted November 18, 2007 Report Posted November 18, 2007 Explain what was pure shit about it.
Mik Posted November 18, 2007 Report Posted November 18, 2007 Well, I will say that Karo/Chonan was as close to pure shit as you're going to see. I didn't think it was awful. The only people who impressed me were Edgar, Lauzon, Thiago, and that's about it. Rashad looked like my dog after a three mile hike mid-second round and Bisping is the opposite of aggressive in all of his fights, which makes for a frustrating fight to watch. It wasn't bad, just frustrating. Houston Alexander was completely exposed, which is a shame because he was well on his way to being a marquee fighter. He got probably the biggest ovation of the night and had people chanting his name, but he's pretty one dimensional and can't be a high level fighter. And from all account, Tamdan whooped on Gono for the first round but got caught with a cross in the second which lead to that weird (and pretty cool) armbar. Apparently Lytle/Alves was pretty dope but we didn't get to see it. I don't agree with AD, but I couldn't argue it was a good card either.
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