Guest Ant Report post Posted October 10, 2007 - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting that Terry Taylor sent several unhappy TNA wrestlers letters informing them that they may leave the promotion if they wish. Cannot believe people like Sabin and Shelley are just being allowed to leave. TNAs own downfall is themselves. Heres hoping for Sabin and Shelley in WWE or ROH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian Brandon 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2007 Good for them. If the morale is low, the show will likely be bad. I applaud TNA for letting wrestlers get an opprotunity elsewhere. And I don't think any names have been released about who the letters were sent to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ant Report post Posted October 10, 2007 No but its been reported Shelley and Sabin are unhappy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 1. Rabbits eat carrots. 2. Butterscotch eats carrots. You would infer that to mean that Butterscotch is a rabbit, huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ant Report post Posted October 11, 2007 1. Rabbits eat carrots. 2. Butterscotch eats carrots. You would infer that to mean that Butterscotch is a rabbit, huh? And for those of us whose first language is english? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike wanna be 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 1. Rabbits eat carrots. 2. Butterscotch eats carrots. You would infer that to mean that Butterscotch is a rabbit, huh? And for those of us whose first language is english? .........seriously? Seriously? Sabin & Shelley are unhappy, letters were sent to SOME unhappy people, therefore Sabin & Shelley were not necessarily handed their walking papers so don't be a douche and start the "*wrestler* to *company*!" moronic bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Not sure which version of English you speak, but it is a logic puzzle that I saw from elementary school all the way through college. In the above scenario, you could not assume that Butterscotch was a rabbit just because he eats carrots. A common logic puzzle would be: 1. All rabbits eat carrots. 2. Troubles is a rabbit. 3. _________________ The answer would be "John eats carrots." Basically, I'm telling you to stop assuming things as fact if it hasn't been reported. That is how rumors get started on the internet and you won't get off to a good start here by doing that. English enough for ya? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edgehead69 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Its funny, in my psychology class, my professor was talking about this exact thing... Hows this... Show Proof That Alexendar Shelly and Christopher Sabin are unhappy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike wanna be 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Its funny, in my psychology class, my professor was talking about this exact thing... Hows this... Show Proof That Alexendar Shelly and Christopher Sabin are unhappy It was easier than I was expecting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Its funny, in my psychology class, my professor was talking about this exact thing... Hows this... Show Proof That Alexendar Shelly and Christopher Sabin are unhappy LMAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Maybe this could turn out to be a good thing, and guys like Kip James were sent the letter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 I'm thinking it might be more directed at the Kip James's of TNA. Last week's TNA introduction package mostly featured the X division guys and other TNA originals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Per the most recent WO, there's currently a tug of war going on between Angle and Jarrett over Dixie Carter's "affections" and how the company is to be run. Angle wants a piece of the pie, and wants clean finishes and the young talent to be pushed. Jarrett wants to keep with the old school approach and name talent. It was said he was the one behind Rikishi coming in and pushing Team 3D as hard as they get pushed. Russo is oddly enough siding with Angle in all this, while Jarrett has Mantel, Abyss and BG James as his allies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 I would expect that from Jarrett, but the pushing younger talent coming from Angle sounds wild. He's always been in big matches with clean finishes, and I applaud him for wanting more of that. I can't tell you how mcuch happier I'd be if EVERY match went to a clean finish. I mean, how many UFC matches or Boxing matches or Football games, etc. go to a NC? They wouldn't have much of a following. Yes, wrestling is scripted, bu the non-finishes have been out of hand for years. A guy can lose and not therefore be buried in the process. He may be on a losing streak and have to pull it together. The fans will get behind that. The hell CAN WIN CLEAN. It will give him more heat. This rant should stop now..... You all know how this could go with more decisive booking. I REALLY hope TNA can make this happen and start doing something to be ALTERNATIVE to the WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 I can understand Russo being for new talent, as his strong point would have to be getting people on screen with some sort of character. But for him to be wanting clean finishses is really suprising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 I can't tell you how mcuch happier I'd be if EVERY match went to a clean finish. I mean, how many UFC matches or Boxing matches or Football games, etc. go to a NC? They wouldn't have much of a following. Yes, wrestling is scripted, bu the non-finishes have been out of hand for years. A guy can lose and not therefore be buried in the process. He may be on a losing streak and have to pull it together. The fans will get behind that. The hell CAN WIN CLEAN. It will give him more heat. That's my biggest problem with TNA. It's really skippable since there is never a clear ending/winner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cd213 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 IIRC, when Angle lost the X-Divison title to Lethal he was told Lethal would win cheaply, but Angle threw a fit and wanted to put him over cleanly. He was also upset when Lethal was sent out there later on to be beat up by Joe. Angle has said in interviews when he first came over that he wanted to help build up the company to something respectable, maybe he realizes that the way to do that is to put the young guys over. It would seem that he has Sting in his corner as Sting is for putting young guys over as well. I would say thois can be really interesting, and I am curious to see where this all goes. If this is true, maybe the reports were right and Russo had little to do with the shit that happens and it's all Mantel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Dude, what movie is your avatar from? I hate it, but I can't keep from watching it repeatedly. Gross. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cd213 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 It's from the really badass horror film Hatchet starring Kane Hodder as Victor Crowly, the killer and featuring Robert Englund and Tony Todd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2007 talking about rabbits possibly named Butterscotch is more interesting than talking about most of the TNA roster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toxxic 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 Angle might be all for putting over young talent, but guess who hasn't been out of the World Title picture since he arrived? And guess who he just lost the belt to? Yup, the oldest wrestler active with the company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 He jobbed clean to Jay Lethal, and that's way more than most of the other old stars have been doing recently. (Team 3D, looking at you!) And hell, Angle really shouldn't be putting over rookies anyway. Even though he's broken down and completely insane, he's still by far the single biggest star TNA has right now. He's got more name recognition and is more over with the casual fans than damn near everyone else on the roster combined, so they should be keeping him in the main event. Putting all the belts on him at once was dumb, but oh well, Russo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luke-o 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 He jobbed clean to Jay Lethal, and that's way more than most of the other old stars have been doing recently. (Team 3D, looking at you!) And hell, Angle really shouldn't be putting over rookies anyway. Even though he's broken down and completely insane, he's still by far the single biggest star TNA has right now. He's got more name recognition and is more over with the casual fans than damn near everyone else on the roster combined, so they should be keeping him in the main event. Putting all the belts on him at once was dumb, but oh well, Russo... Sting says hello. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 He jobbed clean to Jay Lethal, and that's way more than most of the other old stars have been doing recently. (Team 3D, looking at you!) And hell, Angle really shouldn't be putting over rookies anyway. Even though he's broken down and completely insane, he's still by far the single biggest star TNA has right now. He's got more name recognition and is more over with the casual fans than damn near everyone else on the roster combined, so they should be keeping him in the main event. Putting all the belts on him at once was dumb, but oh well, Russo... Sting says hello. To the older fans. Kurt says hello to all fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Kurt has main evented on episodes of Raw which had higher ratings than anything Sting has ever done. Ditto buyrates for PPVs. Plus in terms of name recognition, Olympic gold medalist > guy who the general public might confuse with the former lead singer of The Police. Of course, since TNA's ratings and buyrates are eternally a small fraction of WWE's and they never turn a profit, it really doesn't matter who's on top, it's gonna fail anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IllustriousOne 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Kurt has main evented on episodes of Raw which had higher ratings than anything Sting has ever done. Ditto buyrates for PPVs. Plus in terms of name recognition, Olympic gold medalist > guy who the general public might confuse with the former lead singer of The Police. Of course, since TNA's ratings and buyrates are eternally a small fraction of WWE's and they never turn a profit, it really doesn't matter who's on top, it's gonna fail anyway. I'd be interested in seeing numbers to support that statement, given WCW's success in the late 90's. No doubt there's more name recognition with Angle, but I'd be more likely to say that in their most successful days (when their promotions were booming, etc.), the numbers are relatively even. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Kurt Angle was never the central figure in any period of WWF/E. Sting however? He was the central figure of a year long angle in which led to that Sting/Hogan match at Starrcade that if I recall correctly, did great business (terrible finish aside). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secret Agent 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Kurt Angle was never the central figure in any period of WWF/E. Sting however? He was the central figure of a year long angle in which led to that Sting/Hogan match at Starrcade that if I recall correctly, did great business (terrible finish aside). Apparently you don't remember Anglemania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luke-o 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Lets put it this way, I never watched WCW, but I knew who Sting was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Kurt Angle was never the central figure in any period of WWF/E. Sting however? He was the central figure of a year long angle in which led to that Sting/Hogan match at Starrcade that if I recall correctly, did great business (terrible finish aside). Apparently you don't remember Anglemania. What's that in reference to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
