UFC 81: Breaking Point

[Lord of The Curry 0]

And he has maybe the MMA quote of the decade in regards to his fight with Tank when he said that he views it as doing a porn star. Just because that girl has done a hundered movies, like a hundred scenes, doesn't mean he's going to be afraid to fuck her.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

TO EVERYONE THAT DOUBTED NOGUERIA... FUCK YALL!!!!!!!

 

I KNEW NOGUERIA WAS GOING TO BEAT SYLVIA.

[AmericanDragon 0]

Another one:

[Youth N Asia 0]

I REALLY missed the Tom Boitch (what's his name?) warwaggon

[NoCalMike 0]

I just watched the Lesnar fight. Lesnar looked very green in there, but I guess that is what happens when you throw someone in there with a veteren because his name is a big draw. Brock's size and strength and wrestling ability are going to be a challenge for anyone to contend with. The future looks bright for Brock.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

I wonder who the UFC matches Lesnar up with now... Most likely a striker.

[Youth N Asia 0]

most likely someone he can steamroll. They need Brock to look good now

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

I say it will be Colin Robinson or Antoni Hardonk.

[Mik 0]

Brock and Kimbo would be an awful fight in a few years. I'd love to see Kimbo try to defend against Brock's takedowns and ground and pound.

 

In regards to Tank, though. I'd be shocked if he won. He was such a douche on Inside MMA this week. Every week the other panelists talk about themselves a bit but when asked a question about another aspect of MMA they do their best to discuss it intelligently. Not Tank! Every single fucking thing came back to him in some way even if the connection was very loose. And of course he has no respect for Frank Mir, blah blah blah. I hope Kimbo puts a hole in his face.

 

They want to take a few steps back for Brock's next opponent but they don't want to take a Colin Robinson sized step back! I'd be shocked if they went that low down the totem pole. Hardonk is possible, maybe an Eddie Sanchez. Fiveouncesofpain seems to really like Carmelo Marrero for Brock's next fight.

[Youth N Asia 0]

Time to call in Eddie Sanchez

[Hawkius Maximus 0]

If they give Brock six months or so to hardcore train before his next fight, who knows what'll happen.

 

What I do know, is Brock talked about losing a National Championship match in College, and he told himself that would never happen again, and he became a steamroller due to never wanting to feel that feeling again. The same thing is going to happen now.

 

They showed Brock in the back at the tail end of the PPV, and he was disapointed, and looked like he was almost about to cry...My bet is, Brock's going to say that he never wants to feel that feeling again ever and it's going to click in that next drive in his head.

 

God save whoever is his next opponent if he starts training with that mindset.

[NoCalMike 0]

Well I guess the next question is, coming off a loss in his debut, is Brock going to be a huge draw regardless of who he fights. Mir had credibility and Brock had mystique. Will Lesnar draw when he is facing a tomato can?

[Ced 0]

Well I guess the next question is, coming off a loss in his debut, is Brock going to be a huge draw regardless of who he fights. Mir had credibility and Brock had mystique. Will Lesnar draw when he is facing a tomato can?

 

Lesnar was able to maul a former champion for a majority of the fight with an unpolished Ground and Pound offense. He also seems committed to improving his game and bringing it to the next level in future fights. With Brock's potential to smash somebody in mere seconds, I'm sure people will tune in even if his opponent is a low-caliber fighter.

[Hawkius Maximus 0]

I think the best idea would be to give Brock a mid-level fighter, and put him on the main event of a Fight Night or special. People would tune in for free to see Brock fight. He'd most likely smash a mid-level fighter, and then you can put him back in the hunt.

[randomguy 0]

As I said earlier it was smart booking by the UFC. Brock lost, but he lost to a former champ after looking good. It doesn't hurt him all that much in the long run.

[randomguy 0]

Couple more comments after watching the replay a couple of times:

 

Lesnar is fast as fuck. Fast body movement and pretty fast hands as well. Watching him flip from one side to the other is crazy.

 

Also green as fuck. He didn'treact at all when Mir got his foot positioned behind his leg. Didn't seem to occur to him that that was a bad thing.

[Hawkius Maximus 0]

The best thing Brock can do, is find someone with high level BJJ and train with them almost exclusively, with his power-based training. If Brock can learn submissions and how to avoid them, or god forbid lock them in, look out.

 

He really doesn't have to worry about his standup, because there's no one in the UFC HW division he won't be able to take down. Someone like Sylvia has size, and a good sprawl, but Brock's 280+ pounds of solid muscle flying at you for a takedown. No one will stop that. However, with what little we saw he knocked Mir on his ass with basically a JAB. That's insane power.

[Rendclaw 0]

I just love all the wrestling marks on Youtube all pissed off because he lost. Hilarious.

 

Wrestling Frank Mir was the biggest mistake he could make, because Mir is most dangerous off of his back. We all know it, and as soon Mir went for the kneebar, Brock was done. I knew if Mir could get into a position where his Jiujitsu and his experience could give him a chance to win, that's what was going to happen.

 

All that being said once he gets to learn some submission defense and increases his knowledge of BJJ, his power alone becomes that much more dangerous, because you know that any fighter with any decent submission skills is going to look to get the fight to the ground, because there are maybe what, five or six fighters that can even dream of going toe to toe with him in a standup?

 

I still think that letting him smash a couple of lower-tier fighters and building him up would have been better in the long run, if only to give him more time to absorb BJJ. He has the speed, strength, and wrestling already.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

Brock has to be the only fighter to ever lose a fight in under 2 minutes and come out looking better on the other side.

 

It's ridiculous when you think about it...but there it is.

[Scroby 0]

Brock has to be the only fighter to ever lose a fight in under 2 minutes and come out looking better on the other side.

 

It's ridiculous when you think about it...but there it is.

It would be one thing if Brock got destoryed but since Brock dominated the fight, it's a whole nother story. I mean lets face it, Mir really only got one move in, which was the kneebar, while Brock pretty much destroyed Mir the entire fight.

[Bruiser_Brody_ 0]

I think the best idea would be to give Brock a mid-level fighter, and put him on the main event of a Fight Night or special. People would tune in for free to see Brock fight. He'd most likely smash a mid-level fighter, and then you can put him back in the hunt.

 

Feed Brock mirko, Mirko hates working on the ground, and is a big name, although not in the US anymore I guess.

 

Again a win-win for the UFC though.

[Youth N Asia 0]

Brock looked like a monkey just wildly clubbing away

[Lord of The Curry 0]

I think the best idea would be to give Brock a mid-level fighter, and put him on the main event of a Fight Night or special. People would tune in for free to see Brock fight. He'd most likely smash a mid-level fighter, and then you can put him back in the hunt.

 

Feed Brock mirko, Mirko hates working on the ground, and is a big name, although not in the US anymore I guess.

 

Again a win-win for the UFC though.

 

Horrible matchup, risk is far too much for UFC with not enough gain if Mirko won. Brock's gameplan would be quite obviously wrestling but if he couldn't take Cro-Cop down then he'd get murderized standing.

 

And and LO fucking L at "Feed Brock Mirko". Ease up on the nut-clinging, aight?

[NoCalMike 0]

It's MMA though, not pro-wrestling it doesn't matter who dominates a fight, guys who use submissions often come out looking battered, bruised, and bloody by the end of the fight, but the fact is they use different weapons to win fights.

 

Look, I am not trying to take anything away from Brock, for his 2nd MMA/first UFC fight, he looked impressive, but "dominating most of the fight" doesn't get it done in MMA. It isn't just about brute strength and punching power. There are so many other elements to the fighting game. I get the feeling that if it wasn't Brock that lost the same fight, and just some other unknown muscular guy, he wouldn't be getting as much love.

 

"Feed Brock Mirko" I mean, really? Mirko is in a downturn in his career, but the guy is still a world class striker. It isn't beyond the realm of possibility that Brock could take him, but lets not get ahead of ourselves m'kay?

[Bruiser_Brody_ 0]

I think the best idea would be to give Brock a mid-level fighter, and put him on the main event of a Fight Night or special. People would tune in for free to see Brock fight. He'd most likely smash a mid-level fighter, and then you can put him back in the hunt.

name, although not in the US anymore I guess.

 

Again a win-win for the UFC though.

Both guys are getting 250,00 a fight (or is

Feed Brock mirko, Mirko hates working on the ground, and is a big

 

Horrible matchup, risk is far too much for UFC with not enough gain if Mirko won. Brock's gameplan would be quite obviously wrestling but if he couldn't take Cro-Cop down then he'd get murderized standing.

 

And and LO fucking L at "Feed Brock Mirko". Ease up on the nut-clinging, aight?

 

\Both guys are making like 250,000 a fight, might as well get a return on investment from one or the other. Mirko is talking now he wants to fight 5-6 times IIRC. Not like UFC is aganist putting names with losing streaks aganist each other.

 

 

And please. Mirko claimed his nasal problem was why he couldn't finish fucking KONGO, who I like. but realize he's limited.

 

No nut clinging either, I picked Mir to win and have been watching this shit since 95.

 

[Mik 0]

They've given Mirko until today to say if he's going to keep fighting or retire and he still hasn't answered.

[Bruiser_Brody_ 0]

They've given Mirko until today to say if he's going to keep fighting or retire and he still hasn't answered.

UFC sets deadline for Mirko Cro Cop

February 04, 2008 By: Sam Caplan Category: Mirko Cro Cop

 

UFC president Dana White revealed Saturday night after UFC 81 that the promotion has issued Mirko Cro Cop a deadline for deciding whether he will continue his fighting career.

 

“We’re waiting to hear from him,” White is quoted as saying in an article by Gary Herman of 15rounds.com. “We told him we’d wait for him to make a decision, but he’s not making a decision.”

 

White added that the UFC has given him a firm deadline and that the deadline has just about passed.

 

“The deadline is pretty much up, and I need decision from him by Monday (February 4),” White is quoted as saying.

 

[Lord of The Curry 0]

I think the best idea would be to give Brock a mid-level fighter, and put him on the main event of a Fight Night or special. People would tune in for free to see Brock fight. He'd most likely smash a mid-level fighter, and then you can put him back in the hunt.

name, although not in the US anymore I guess.

 

Again a win-win for the UFC though.

Both guys are getting 250,00 a fight (or is

Feed Brock mirko, Mirko hates working on the ground, and is a big

 

Horrible matchup, risk is far too much for UFC with not enough gain if Mirko won. Brock's gameplan would be quite obviously wrestling but if he couldn't take Cro-Cop down then he'd get murderized standing.

 

And and LO fucking L at "Feed Brock Mirko". Ease up on the nut-clinging, aight?

 

\Both guys are making like 250,000 a fight, might as well get a return on investment from one or the other. Mirko is talking now he wants to fight 5-6 times IIRC. Not like UFC is aganist putting names with losing streaks aganist each other.

 

 

And please. Mirko claimed his nasal problem was why he couldn't finish fucking KONGO, who I like. but realize he's limited.

 

No nut clinging either, I picked Mir to win and have been watching this shit since 95.

 

Nowhere in my post did I infer that you're new to this sport though I'm glad you corrected me because with a comment like that I thought you were.

 

Lesnar is 1-1 in MMA right now, 0-1 in the UFC. If he lost to Mirko they could feed him all the cans they want but it wouldn't make a lick of difference because the fans would still flash back to the top guys beating Lesnar and remember that he can't cut it with the big names.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Even if Brock did face Cro Cop and lose, if he could get some impressive looking wins after that, he'd have redeemed himself. Not that losing to big names should be that big of a deal; big names are supposed to be able to beat people of lesser skill or experience. Also, losing to big people or having no likely chance to beat big people, doesn't mean your career is over; Tito lost to Chuck decisively the first time and didn't seem likely to beat him the second time, but he was still monster over and able to draw some huge numbers. And it's when you're not able to do that is when your career is over.

[Youth N Asia 0]

PAYOFFS

 

* Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira ($200,000) def. Tim Sylvia ($100,000)

* Frank Mir ($80,000) def. Brock Lesnar ($250,000)

* Nate Marquardt ($52,000) def. Jeremy Horn ($25,000)

* Ricardo Almeida ($40,000) def. Rob Yundt ($5,000)

* Tyson Griffin ($36,000) def. Gleison Tibau ($11,000)

* Chris Lytle ($24,000) def. Kyle Bradley ($4,O00)

* Tim Boetsch ($12,000) def. David Heath ($6,000)

* Marvin Eastman ($14,000) def. Terry Martin ($12,000)

* Rob Emerson ($16,000) def. Keita Nakamura ($5,000)