The Mitchell Report

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

I'm interested in the discrepancies between the MLB list and the WNBC list.

 

I wonder if the Brewers are going to try and find a way out of that Gagne contract. Oops.

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

I'm interested in the discrepancies between the MLB list and the WNBC list.

 

I wonder if the Brewers are going to try and find a way out of that Gagne contract. Oops.

 

If they saw him pitch as a Red Sox and signed him, nothing Gagne could do would make the Brewers opt out of it.

[Guest RyechnaiaSobaka]

I think it was unfortunate to see names like Gregg Zaun on this list, but the one that hit me in the gut was Jack Cust.

 

I've been a big Jack Cust fan since he kicked ass last year with the Athletics. Now I don't know whether he did it on his own or whether he was using then too. I should have figured that he had done them from a few years ago, like 2004 I guess it was, when he and Segui were competing to see who would be the DH on the Orioles. But I guess I never connected them before today.

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

The Orioles it seems are a really dirty team.

Eric Gagne is too listy for me. Take him. I feel the same about Brian Roberts, by the way. He's way too listy. Between Palmiero, Tejada, and Roberts, there's clearly more than just one kind of shooting going on in Baltimore.

Obv.

[boobshaw 0]

I'm just glad Bags wasn't listed. That would be a crushing blow to my baseball psyche.

[snuffbox 0]

This is a perfect reason to release Derrick Turnbow.

[Brett Favre 0]

Not a single member from either of the Red Sox championship teams. Gee, I wonder why.

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

Yeah, you'd think the minority owner of the Red Sox would at least bury Johnny Damon or something, as if he hasn't been buried enough.

[alfdogg 0]

...Mo Vaughn?

[Guest RyechnaiaSobaka]

...Mo Vaughn?

 

He was injecting them into his stomach.

 

[2GOLD 0]

 

Or he found a way to turn them into cakes, pies and various other delicious items.

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

I hereby declare that the best pitcher of this generation is not Roger Clemens, but Greg Maddux.

[snuffbox 0]

Yep.

[2GOLD 0]

 

Sounds good to me.

[Brett Favre 0]

I declare the best pitcher of this generation to be Pedro Martinez.

 

And we definitely would've gotten a better list from this guy:

 

 

"Listen, rummy, I'm gonna say it plain and simple. Where'd you pinch the hooch? Is some blind tiger jerking suds on the side?"

[milliondollarchamp 0]

I'm so glad to hear that Eric "No longer Game Over" Gagne was included in the report. I kept saying it back when he was having his amazing save streak. Come on, this guy is a nobody and then all of a sudden he's throwing 98 mph and is lights out? Then the dweeb got mysteriously hurt, no doubt from the juice, and when he came back, viola, no more 98 mph fastball. Clear as day. Good thing this overrated chump signed his fat contract last week with Milwaukee. Guess he knew that he was going to get named and figured he better sign something fast.

 

Clemen's has come out and denied ever using 'roids or HGH. Sure thing. Just man up and admit it, cuntsack.

[Brett Favre 0]

What if he really didn't use it? The guy that ratted him and Andy Pettitte out was threatened with jail time and could've lied.

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

when he came back, viola, no more 98 mph fastball.

Let's give a big friendly cello to the real Eric Gagne! Or are these just bassless allegations?

[naiwf 0]

I would pay good money to punch Donald Fehr in his face and get away with it. I don't think there's anyone involved in sports in any way who I've disliked more than him.

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

Oh, man, how does Donald Fehr not just burst into flames right here and now.

[Guest RyechnaiaSobaka]

Oh, man, how does Donald Fehr not just burst into flames right here and now.

 

All of these men are innocent.

[Precious Roy 0]

I'm just glad Bags wasn't listed. That would be a crushing blow to my baseball psyche.

 

It really can't be stressed enough that this isn't a definitive list, it's simply a list. Take everyone on there to the bank, but I'm already sick of seeing, "well, so and so wasn't on there, he's clean." There's obviously going to be hundreds upon hundreds of players who used steroids but fell outside of the sphere of the investigation for whatever reason. It's impossible to catch everyone after the fact.

 

Bagwell is a guy I'll always suspect and basically assume was on something, and I doubt I'll ever be swayed from that belief. It seems foolhardy to go to sleep at night with pleasant dreams of Bags dancing in your head based on this, but whatever, you do you.

 

And re: the lack of Red Sox, I also find it suspicious, but not at all surprising due to the conflict of interest there. It would be like asking George Steinbrenner to investigate steroids and expecting to see A-Rod, Posada etc. show up on the list. Everyone's like, "oh, he's a former US senator, how can you question his integrity?" Last time I checked politicians were some of the dirtiest motherfuckers in the game, since when do we trust their word at face value? I don't care how respected he is, every crook in Washington has people who'll swear to their "integrity". Even if he didn't implicitly cover anything up there, there's no reason to think he wasn't influenced to look the other way or take certain things at face value without digging any deeper.

 

Not saying he did, but would it surprise anyone? I'm skeptical of the integrity of every single person involved in the sport, and I don't see why Mitchell, a guy with direct and current ties to a major league baseball club, should be above all of that.

 

And does anyone really believe that Selig didn't have some kind of input on the final draft and list of names, through whatever channels?

[The Robfather 0]

Union rep on ESPN bitching about not getting an advanced copy of the report.

[Precious Roy 0]

double post

 

I also find it suspicious that there are really no relevant names on the list. All the "new names" are out of the game, past their prime or already heavily speculated upon and suspected (Clemens, Pettitte, Tejada).

 

Not that I'm expecting to see Pujols, A-Rod or Ortiz like so many people speculated about, but doesn't it seem off to anyone when the biggest current name is Jack freakin Cust?!?

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

Look at the checks. Matt Herges wrote "Thanks!" in the memo space. Hahaha.

 

You know, it's kinda disturbing that Clemens has sons going into baseball. Some example he's setting.

[Guest RyechnaiaSobaka]

Look at the checks. Matt Herges wrote "Thanks!" in the memo space. Hahaha.

 

You know, it's kinda disturbing that Clemens has sons going into baseball. Some example he's setting.

 

He's also denying it. Today.

 

What a nut.

[Open the Muggy Gate 0]

Apparently, Canseco tried to get into one of the press conferences, but he was thrown out since he's not media.

 

What a fucking douche.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Clemens is basically set for life, and his kids' lives? What does he care either way at this point?

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

Clemens wants to go into the HOF. If it's true, then he's probably screwed.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

The Orioles it seems are a really dirty team.

At one point or another these players played for the Orioles:

 

David Segui

Larry Bigbie

Brian Roberts

Jack Cust

Jason Grimsley

Gregg Zaun

Todd Williams

Miguel Tejada

Jerry Hairston

Kevin Brown

Howie Clark

 

 

Section IX. B."Alleged Internet Purchases of Performance Enhancing Substances By Players in Major League Baseball"

 

Jay Gibbons, Jerry Hairston, Jr., Gary Matthews, Jr.,

 

14 guys. I havent bothered going over other players and teams but that has to be the most former/current players..