MMA Comments that Don't Warrant a Thread

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Neither 70 or 72 have ppv like line ups, but I'll takes what I can gets

 

Maybe because neither are PPV cards?

[Youth N Asia 0]

Well if they're calling if UFC *insert number here* then you look at it as a ppv show. Kinda like Clash of the Champions back in the day. Least I do anyway

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Well if they're calling if UFC *insert number here* then you look at it as a ppv show. Kinda like Clash of the Champions back in the day. Least I do anyway

 

But it's not a PPV, it's on Free TV, so I have no clue what are you rambling on about.

 

There is a reason it is called Pay Per View. If you were paying for it you would have a valid argument, but this is an extremely good card for free TV.

 

Gonzaga/Cro Cop isn't going to be as one-sided as people seem to think. Gonzaga isn't a totally n00b on his feet, and has KO power, and is much better grappler and Jiu Jitzu fighter then Cro Cop will likely ever be.

 

Werdum/Arlovski is a really good match up. Werdum will win, unless Arlovski's TD-Defense is more improved since his last fight with PDP.

 

Bisping/Elvis is going to be a massacre.

 

Kongo/Silva should be alright, don't really have an opinion on this fight, don't really care.

[Youth N Asia 0]

...didn't think it was rambling...

 

anyway, other people are paying ppv prices for 70 at least. It's a ppv to the rest of the world

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Was the fight where Matt Lindland knocked himself out was ever aired? I think I've seen a clip of it, but I'd like to see it again.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Yeah, it was on the live show and on the UFC 43 dvd.

[Lei Tong 0]

So, anyone care to take a guess as to how many times Werdum drops to his back of his own volition?

[Mik 0]

Dana also announced yesterday that ESPN is going to start covering weigh ins and events on the network and treat it like boxing. Analysis, etc. They've already sorta started by showing the Serra and Couture wins on Sportscenter but we're moving into full blown coverage and analysis.

 

Talk about an explosion in stature and popularity.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

How did I end up drinking next to Rob McDonald tonight?

[Lord of The Curry 0]

From Yahoo! Sports:

 

Floyd Mayweather stands almost 5-foot-9, weighs 154 pounds, has a 72-inch reach and can drop most mortals with a single swing of either hand.

 

He's fast, athletic and dodges punches as well as anyone, maybe ever. In 13 world title fights, he won all 13. His next one is May 5 in Las Vegas, this time as a junior middleweight, against Oscar de la Hoya, as big a fight as boxing has seen in years.

 

His nickname may be "Pretty Boy," but he is one bad, bad man.

 

On Cinco de Mayo we'll find out if Mayweather can beat de la Hoya – he's the heavy favorite – but could he beat a snarling, menacing, multi-skilled champion of the Ultimate Fighting Championship?

 

How about lightweight (155 pound) champ Sean Sherk, who may stand just 5-foot-6, may suffer from a distinct reach disadvantage, but as a mixed martial arts master is schooled in "interdisciplinary forms of fighting that include jiu-jitsu, judo, karate, boxing, kickboxing, wrestling."

 

Could the best pound-for-pound fighter in the old combat sport (boxing) handle a champion in the new combat sport (UFC)?

 

"UFC's champions can't handle boxing. That's why they are in UFC." Mayweather said Tuesday from Las Vegas during a break in training. "Put one of our guys in UFC and he'd be the champion. Any good fighter, he'd straight knock them out."

 

Dana White, a one-time boxer and boxing instructor and current UFC president, laughs at that.

 

"Boxers couldn't become mixed martial artists. That's why they're boxers," White countered Wednesday from England where UFC has an event Saturday. "They are one trick ponies. Our guys can do everything. They can box, they can kick box, they can wrestle and do jiu-jitsu. They are much better athletes than boxers."

 

Mayweather may be right, but he'd have to be. Any boxer stepping into the UFC octagon would have to knock his opponent out before the mixed martial artist got a hold of him, because once the fight fell to the mat, where things get nasty, the boxer is all but finished.

 

But, as Mayweather points out, the often (by boxing standards) clumsy and lead-with-their-face UFC guys would have to walk through a hail of vicious jabs, crosses and hooks to get there.

 

"Take Chuck Liddell," Mayweather said of the UFC's biggest star and light heavyweight champion (about 205 pounds). "Put him in the ring with a (boxer) who is just 10-0 and Chuck Liddell would get punished."

 

So you'd punish a UFC champion, too?

 

"Come on, man. What'd you think? Am I just 10-0?"

 

Mayweather is 37-0.

 

Liddell, with six inches and 50 pounds on Mayweather, isn't possible, but someone like Sherk, someone his size? With that insane reach, unreal punching power and by UFC rules aided by small, light 4-ounce gloves would Mayweather carve up Sherk instantly? Or would Sherk fight throughout the barrage and get Mayweather in a clutch no ref will save him from?

 

"They wouldn't have a chance to grapple (us) because we'd knock them out," Mayweather said in general. "(The fighter) would be knocked out before he even touched us."

 

Of course, perhaps no punch is strong enough to stop a charging opponent.

 

No one really knows what would happen at such an elite level.

 

"I used to talk like Floyd Mayweather when I was involved in boxing," White said. "I talked just like him, until I educated myself about this sport. These guys are amazing athletes, Floyd Mayweather is one of the best boxers ever, (and) Sean Sherk will whoop his ass in under two minutes."

 

"Any day that Mayweather wants to put his money and his ass where his mouth is, I'm ready," White continued. "If he wants to step up, let's do it."

 

First off, Mayweather was talking mostly in general about his disdain for UFC – "Boxing is an art, UFC is a fad." But Mayweather has spent almost as much time this spring ripping UFC as de la Hoya, who he seems to consider as little more than a matinee idol useful for only increasing the purse.

 

"I never knew popularity to win any fight," Mayweather said. "I'll beat him and come home and watch basketball."

 

The UFC, though, is clearly on his mind. He brought it up on his own Tuesday. Earlier this month he cracked that "anyone can put a tattoo on their head and get in a street fight."

 

Mayweather may be a talker – loquacious doesn't begin to describe the 30-year-old – but he isn't dumb. So maybe he is setting up another big pay day in the event he dusts de la Hoya and boxing has little to offer. Or maybe he just wants to promote a fight involving others.

 

Of course, the economics of UFC would have to change to get Mayweather to participate. UFC fighters make a fraction of top boxers. As part of the family business, Mayweather, his dad and his uncle handle all aspects of his career. For the de la Hoya fight he'll earn millions.

 

"Why would I go into a sport paying hundreds of thousands when I'm in a sport paying $20 million?" Mayweather said.

 

Mayweather knows full well, though, that the pay per view money is there for the taking on something like this, a battle that would be intriguing at nearly every level. White would just about kill for this to go down, preferably with Mayweather involved as a fighter.

 

"I'm willing to put together a fight for Sean Sherk and Floyd Mayweather with numbers that would make sense for Floyd," White said. "And I guarantee you he would not accept it. Floyd Mayweather would never fight in the UFC because he would get his head ripped off."

 

Yes, he would. But only if Sherk didn't get his head ripped off first.

[Mik 0]

Heavily rumored GSP/Josh Koscheck fight to take place in August. Same night of a potential Mirko/Randy match.

 

Yeah... I'd cancel all my plans for that evening if they both go down.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Heavily rumored GSP/Josh Koscheck fight to take place in August. Same night of a potential Mirko/Randy match.

 

Yeah... I'd cancel all my plans for that evening if they both go down.

 

I'd rather see GSP Vs. Fitch.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

For Carlito; Anderson had a falling out with Chute Boxe so he doesn't really get along with any of them anymore.

 

Is UFC 70 at 9 or 10? I heard it was 9 but I assumed that was the start of some pre-show shit.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Nope, scheduled for 9. Pre-show is from 8 to 9.

[Youth N Asia 0]

Just killing time on Sherdog looking up TUF guys and I got sidetracked. I didn't know Herb Dean was an MMA fighter. Has a 2-2 record with a loss to Joe Riggs

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Watching some of the Cage Rage show and am wondering...

 

Where is Vitor Belfort and did that man fighting under his name eat him?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

And Tank vs. Gary Turner is the funniest fight ever.

[Lei Tong 0]

Dude, it's not even amongst the Top 5 funniest Cage Rage fights. Unadulterated hilarity card after card.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Oh come on, Tank going for a leg lock?

[Lei Tong 0]

Legeno tapping Kimo with a gulliotine > Tank's heel hook

[Adam 0]

I like how the Mayweather comments don't get any response. I have to agree with Dana, boxers can't sprawl, they don't have takedown defense. A MMA fighter would wreck a boxer with MMA rules, just like a boxer would do the same to a MMA fighter with boxing rules.

[jwpeer 0]

I like how the Mayweather comments don't get any response. I have to agree with Dana, boxers can't sprawl, they don't have takedown defense. A MMA fighter would wreck a boxer with MMA rules, just like a boxer would do the same to a MMA fighter with boxing rules.

 

 

They don't get a response because they're ludicrous and uneducated.

 

It's just like if some bloke off the street came in the forum and said the same thing. Mayweather has absolutely NO submission training, so he wouldn't even KNOW when he was about to be submitted (He's not going to know he has to defend against a kimura or a heel hook).

 

Even more so, look at most boxing fights...have the time at least once every round the guys end up hugging each other anyhow. You think Sherk would -really- go in with his hands down? No. He'd walk towards the guy hands up, stalk him up against the cage, get him in the clinch and then take him down like a child and beat his face in.

 

And boxing may be worth millions of dollars, but it's not going to be in the near future, as sponsors realize the most significant target demographic on the planet (Males 18-35) are watching UFC and not boxing. Once interest in the last few huge fights they can put on is gone, because they do them, boxing is going to do a slow bleed to death (Partly due to the horrible lack of unification and any idea of who -really- is champion.)

[Guest Tzar Lysergic]

Boxing isn't going to go out like that. There's still plenty of wildly talented fighters out there, and there's always more coming up because people pay thousands of dollars for tickets to see the huge fights.

 

NOSEBLEEDS for De La Hoya/Mayweather are going for something like $1500. 1500.

 

The two sports can coexist, and having a silly rivalry over which is better is just that: silly. I love both.

 

Heavyweights are in a terrible funk right now, but mark my words, within a decade we'll see a true hard psychopath in the vein of a Mike Tyson come out who has management smart enough to grab a great athlete out of a gym or a jail and talk him into fighting instead of playing ball. There's millions upon millions of dollars to be made right now because the division is wide open, and a great heavyweight will almost always make more than a great welterweight.

[Mik 0]

Tito Ortiz said that he's going to make Rashad Evans his "nappy headed ho."

 

There we go.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Tito Ortiz said that he's going to make Rashad Evans his "nappy headed ho."

 

There we go.

 

Man I really hope Rashad beats the living shit out of Tito, I think he's going to KO him.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Sam Stout vs Spencer Fisher II- Ultimate Fight Night 10, June 9th.

 

Booyah.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Sam Stout vs Spencer Fisher II- Ultimate Fight Night 10, June 9th.

 

Booyah.

 

Jon Fitch is also suppose to be fighting Roan Carneiro.

[Lei Tong 0]

I'm never counting on Spencer to win a fight ever again. That said, this is yet another fight he SHOULD win.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Should and probably will. He pushed the pace despite the 20 pound cut he made in two days for their last fight and still made it close. I don't see a finish here, both guys have proven their chins and (unless your name is Florian) Stout has shown very good submission defense.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

No drug testing at UFC's 69 or 70