Lt. Al Giardello Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 Sotiropoulos  Elvis Sinosic and Anthony Perosh.
AboveAverage484 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Andy's jaw used to be pretty weak until he had dental surgery in, I wanna say late '95. After that he was only KO'd three times the rest of his career compared to four times in his first year alone. Â Andy may not have been as talented as Hoost or Aerts but what he lacked in skill, he more than made up for with his work rate and insane cardio. It's highly likely that he used steroids, but at that time it seemed like everyone was using them.
Lei Tong Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Man, your K-1 senses must be dulling. I'd forgotten about the Andy posts until you just got to them. Â Then again, I'm a barely-working piece of shit.
Hawkius Maximus Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 I'd still say roids are pretty heavily used in K-1. Just look at Jerome LeBanner. Guy is gigantic. Â That's not even looking at guys like Bonjasky who aren't huge but are ripped. Â It's Japan though. Goes with the territory.
Lt. Al Giardello Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 I'd still say roids are pretty heavily used in K-1. Just look at Jerome LeBanner. Guy is gigantic. That's not even looking at guys like Bonjasky who aren't huge but are ripped.  It's Japan though. Goes with the territory.  I would say Overreem is the biggest explain... Look at his size growth over the years, I believe there was a timetable posted here before.
The Niggardly King Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Yeah I posted that, and you can tell just by how his skull is coming out now like a caveman/gorilla.
BruteSquad_BRODY Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Kurt Pellegrino vs -180 Â Rob Emerson +150 Â UFC - Ultimate Fight Night - Lightweight Matchup 2/7/09 Joe Lauzon -185 vs Jeremy Stephens +155 Â UFC - Ultimate Fight Night - Middleweight Matchup 2/7/09 Dan Miller -170 vs Jake Rosholt +140 Â UFC - Ultimate Fight Night - Lightweight Matchup 2/7/09 Mac Danzig -115 vs Josh Neer -115 Â UFC - Ultimate Fight Night - Welterweight Matchup 2/7/09 Matt Riddle -120 vs Steve Bruno -110 Â --------- Â So anybody got any thoughts on the best under dog to bet on? Â I'm leaning towards Stephens Â
HollywoodSpikeJenkins Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 I'd go Emerson. Pellegrino never seems to live up to his potential to me and Emerson is fairly decent. Â Â I was going to say the same thing.
Lei Tong Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Pellegrino's a massive front-runner, but Emerson just isn't good.
Lt. Al Giardello Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Pellegrino's a massive front-runner, but Emerson just isn't good. Â I agree. Even in Pellegrino's losses recently against Diaz and Stevenson he's look good. He beat the shit out of Diaz and just got caught in a submission, in the Stevenson fight he gave Stevenson all he could handle. Â I can't see Emerson beating Pellegrino at all... Emerson has decent kickboxing, and its effective for MMA because he's made a career out of it so far, but Pellegrino has very good boxing, and his ground game is too much for Emerson. Unless Pellegrino gets caught with a flukey shot, he will win.
Lei Tong Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 I doubt it'll be a lucky shot if it happens. Like I've said before, Pellegrino is the type of guy who can peter out when a fight starts turning on him, and being hard to finish, I can imagine Emerson frustrating him to the point where he gives up like he did against Fickett. However, Emerson is often more than willing to simply go with the flow of a fight, rarely taking the initiative and mostly reacting to what his opponent does, which almost assures Pellegrino will stay in the driver's seat for all 3 rounds.
Mik Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 If anyone managed to show Jake Rosholt how to avoid a punch since his last fight he might be a good selection.
Lord of The Curry Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 So I'm 100% convinced that Sherdog has ranked Anderson #1 in their P4P rankings simply to piss everybody off due to the GSP vs Fedor debates that have sprung up.
Zetterberg is God Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Is the Fight Club worth it? I'm pretty sure I'm going to Montreal and I want to know if joining for the presale is worthwhile.
Lord of The Curry Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Without GSP on the card I don't think there's as much of a danger of it selling out as quickly as last time. Â Having said that, it will sell out quicker then most UFC shows and I know from personal experience that it's because of Fight Club that I was able to get tickets so take from that what you will.
AboveAverage484 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 So if GSP does end up fighting Silva, who goes up/down in weight? I would wager on Silva going down because he has fought lower than 185 in the past while GSP has been strictly 170 his whole career.
Mik Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 I'd imagine that fight is different then BJ/GSP. BJ is a former WW champ so it makes sense for it to be at a set weight class and for a belt. Anderson/GSP is just for fucking kicks so why not make it a 180 catch weight or something similar. Even if it's at 185, I can't envision it being a title bout.
Lt. Al Giardello Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 So if GSP does end up fighting Silva, who goes up/down in weight? I would wager on Silva going down because he has fought lower than 185 in the past while GSP has been strictly 170 his whole career. Â That's a retarded argument... Especially considering Anderson has fought at 205 last year. Â Matt Hughes wrestled at 155lbs in college, maybe he can cut down to lightweight! Â Anderson is a much bigger guy then he was when he fought almost decade ago. Â
Youth N Asia Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Hughes has too much bulk to make 155. Hell, Serra said he can't make 155 anymore and he looks tiny at 170
AboveAverage484 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Shit, I don't know what they walk around at. Every time someone says such and such a fighter walks around at "X" weight it gets inflated by about 5 lbs since the last time. Last I checked Gomi walked around at heavyweight and Tito walked around at 250 (okay I inflated that). If the fight was predicated around fighting in a certain weight class, one would have to go up or one would have to go down, so Silva going down based on his prior experience at fighting at a lower weight isn't completely far fetched or retarded. I really hadn't considered the catch weight theory until Mik did, but it sounds like a good idea to me and would make this entire debate a moot point. Â Congrats are in order though, EHME, you managed to make a refuting statement without using the words faggot or pussy, retarded is simply a step in the right direction for you!
Lt. Al Giardello Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Hughes has too much bulk to make 155. Hell, Serra said he can't make 155 anymore and he looks tiny at 170 Â That was my point, I was being sarcastic if you couldn't tell.
Lt. Al Giardello Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Shit, I don't know what they walk around at. Every time someone says such and such a fighter walks around at "X" weight it gets inflated by about 5 lbs since the last time. Last I checked Gomi walked around at heavyweight and Tito walked around at 250 (okay I inflated that). If the fight was predicated around fighting in a certain weight class, one would have to go up or one would have to go down, so Silva going down based on his prior experience at fighting at a lower weight isn't completely far fetched or retarded. I really hadn't considered the catch weight theory until Mik did, but it sounds like a good idea to me and would make this entire debate a moot point. Congrats are in order though, EHME, you managed to make a refuting statement without using the words faggot or pussy, retarded is simply a step in the right direction for you!  I find it impossible to believe that Gomi walked around at heavyweight. Most of his career, even when he fought in Shooto or wrestled All Japan Combat Wrestling Championship he always weighed pretty low. Nowadays he's one of the bigger lightweights, but I have doubts he walks around heavier then say Sean Sherk or even Joe Stevenson and Clay Guida.
Hawkius Maximus Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 I felt bad for Bonnar. Jones had flaws, but I don't think Bonnar gameplanned to be suplexed (The Double Underhook suplex doesn't get enough love), have the guy throw fucking diving leg sweeps, or to be blasted in the head with a spinning back elbow. Â Kinda takes you out of your element when your not sure what the fuck the guy's gonna do.
Youth N Asia Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Jones gave off a Rumble vibe in that fight...not cause he's black. His speed and explosion are just sick. Those suplexes were some of the best throws I've seen
AmericanDragon Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Neither of you noticed the shop?
Youth N Asia Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 the ol leg switch...no, missed that
muzz Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 First thing I noticed was the blood strangely, not the mixing of the legs.
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