EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2008 http://survey.wwe.com/starrcade/ The 25 greatest Starrcade matches, all airing in November? Damn straight. My picks 1983-88 Ric Flair vs. Harley Race Roddy Piper vs. Greg Valentine Magnum T.A. vs. Tully Blanchard Rock n Roll Express vs. Ole & Arn Anderson Ric Flair vs. Lex Luger 1989-94 Doom vs. Arn Anderson & Barry Windham Sting & Abdullah the Butcher vs. Bobby Eaton & Brian Pillman Rick Steamboat & Shane Douglas vs. Brian Pillman & Barry Windham Sting vs. Vader Ric Flair vs. Vader 1995-2000 Eddie Guerrero vs. Shinjiro Ohtani Sting vs. Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair Dean Malenko vs. Ultimo Dragon Hollywood Hogan vs. Sting Shannon Moore/Shane Helms vs. Jung Dragons vs. Jamie Noble/Evan Karagias Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyguesswhatidid 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2008 So, does this mean the DVD is canceled? If so, this special will more than make up for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2008 My picks; 1983-88 "Rowdy" Roddy Piper Vs Greg Valentine- Dog Collar Match Ric Flair Vs Harley Race Magnum T.A. Vs Tully Blanchard- "I Quit" match Rock 'N' Roll Express Vs The Andersons Sting and Dusty Rhodes Vs The Road Warriors (Not a great match, I grant you but ya gotta have some Dusty and some Road Warriors on here and this is the best option available for both) 1989-94 Sting Vs Ric Flair Doom Vs Arn Anderson and Barry Windham Ricky Steamboat and Shane Douglas Vs Brian Pillman and Barry Windham Sting Vs Vader Vader Vs Ric Flair 1995-the bitter end Lex Luger Vs Ric Flair Vs Sting Dean Malenko Vs Ultimo Dragon Hollywood Hogan Vs Sting Goldberg Vs Kevin Nash Shane Helms/Shannon Moore Vs The Jung Dragons Vs Jamie Noble/Evan Karagias Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2008 83-88 Dusty Rhodes vs. Tully Blanchard Tully Blanchard vs. Magnum TA The Rock ’n’ Roll Express vs. Ole & Arn Anderson The Road Warriors vs. The Midnight Express Mike Rotunda vs. Rick Steiner 89-94 The Steiner Brothers vs. The Road Warriors Sting vs. The Great Muta Stan Hansen vs. Lex Luger Doom vs. Arn Anderson & Barry Windham Vader vs. Ric Flair 95-00 Eddie Guerrero vs. Shinjiro Ohtani Dean Malenko vs. Ultimo Dragon Rey Mysterio vs. Jushin Liger Billy Kidman vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Juventud Guerrera Diamond Dallas Page vs. The Giant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 23, 2008 Not in chronological order within their era posting, but that's because I decided to pick some before others. Ric Flair vs. Harley Race Tully vs. Magnum Ric Flair vs. Lex Luger RnR's vs. Ole and Arn Anderson Midnights vs. Midnights Steiners vs. The Road Warriors Stan Hansen vs. Lex Luger Vader vs. Flair Sting vs. Vader Doom vs. Arn Anderson and Barry Windham Flair vs. Luger vs. Sting (talk about a mega-match) Dean Malenko vs. Ultimo Dragon Sting vs. Hogan Eddie vs. Ohtani Eddie vs. Kidman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2008 I can't wait to get pissed off at Hogan vs. Sting again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nate 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2008 well here are my picks 1983-1988: Harley Race vs Ric Flair Tully Blanchard vs Ricky Steamboat Tully vs Magnum TA Arn and Tully vs The Road Warriors 1989-1994: Sting vs Great Muta Steiners vs Muta and Mr Saito Dustin Rhodes vs Steve Austin Sting vs Vader Cactus Jack & Maxx Payne vs. Tex Slazenger & Shanghai Pierce 1995-2000: Sting vs. Kensuke Sasaki Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon Rey Mysterio vs Jushin Liger 3 Count vs Jung Dragons vs Noble and Karagis Hogan vs Sting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2008 I picked matches I don't already have on DVD (which eliminated most of the 1st bracket except for tag matches and Flair vs. Luger). Arn/Tully vs. Road Warriors RnR vs Midnights (had I realized I was picking a scaffold match, I probably would have picked something else) Midnights vs. Midnights Road Warriors vs. Dusty/Sting Flair vs. Luger Sting vs. Muta Sting vs. Flair Hansen vs. Luger Sting vs. Vader Vader vs. Ric Flair Savage vs. Flair Mysterio vs. Liger Eddie vs. DDP Eddie vs. Malenko Sting vs. Hogan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2008 The scaffold match is historic, it has the spot where Jim Cornette screwed up his knee. I have eight of those matches on dvd, with two more on the Road Warriors dvd. Flair/Luger is the only real good match that has yet to make DVD from that section. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2008 I thought the Cornette thing was from Warriors vs. MX (which is on the Road Warriors DVD). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2008 I thought the Cornette thing was from Warriors vs. MX (which is on the Road Warriors DVD). Ah right, I got that screwed up. The RnR/Midnights match is decent actually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2008 Oh yeah, thats where Morton gives Bubba a love tap on his johnson. Fun times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 My list is different, as I picked out matches I haven't seen. And Flair/Race and Piper/Valentine have already been featured prominently elsewhere. The NWA ERA The Brisco Brothers vs. Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood--Starrcade 83 Tully Blanchard vs. Ricky Steamboat--Starrcade 84 Manny Fernandez vs. Abdullah the Butcher--starrcade 85 The Midnight Express vs. The Original Midnight Express--Starrcade 88 Ric Flair vs. Lex Luger--Starrcade 88 THE WCW ERA 1989-1994 Sting vs. The Great Muta--Starrcade 89 Doom vs. Arn Anderson & Barry Windham--Starrcade 90 The Great Muta & Barry Windham vs. Brian Pillman & 2 Cold Scorpio--Starrcade 92 Sting vs. Vader--Starrcade 92 Vader vs. Ric Flair --Starrcade 93 THE MONDAY NIGHT WAR ERA (1995-2000) "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair--Starrcade 95 Hollywood Hogan vs. Sting--Starrcade 97 Billy Kidman vs. Eddie Guerrero--Starrcade 98 Eddie Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko--Starrcade 97 Bret Hart vs. Goldberg--Starrcade 99 Those were my five picks from each era As an aside, what's with all the love for Flair/Race. That match sucked, when I first watched it on the Flair DVD I had trouble sitting all the way through it. I have no desire for it to be prominently featured on another WWE release. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 Seeing the match listing for Starrcade '89 just reaffirms how they completely screwed up some major league money matches (Another Sting/Muta match, Flair/Muta, Road Warriors/Steiners) with the Iron Man tournament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyguesswhatidid 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2008 Should be interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franchise632 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2008 So interesting stuff so far...they had a pretty wide reaching criteria for making their choices. I don't think I ever saw Starrcade 96 so Hogan vs Piper was a first watch for me...it is about what I would have imagined. Sting vs Muta from 89 was a fun little match that I hadn't seen in forever. that is as far as I have watched...I had it on earlier but dozed off so I don remember everything, just turned it back on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2008 So far: 25. Piper vs. Hogan - 1996 24. Sting vs. Muta - 1989 23. Douglas/Steamboat vs. Pillman/Windham - 1992 22. Goldberg vs. Nash - 1998 21. Battlebowl - 1991 This show is well put together. I enjoy the format. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2008 Hey, you really can enhance the experience by going to WWE.com (as stated in a graphic at the end of the show!). http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwe247/starrcade25th/ They have "extras" to go with the matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 Do these 'extra' vids work for anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 So far, no. I get a message alerting me of WWE.com's new video player which doesn't load the video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyguesswhatidid 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 I'm hoping the websites "extras" are on the DVD, if one is coming out. Because, at least then it'll give me a reason to buy it. Also, JR said he filmed something for the DVD, so it would be even better if it was something completely different than this countdown, which is awesome to begin with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 Probably an Easter Egg for the Armageddon 08 dvd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 Watched Piper/Hogan (my best friend is in the audience..if anyone of you knew what he looked like, that would matter) before I went into the work. I lost it when Tony and Dusty were freaking out over Piper pulling out Hogan's hair and Heenan deadpanned "It won't take long". The match is better than I dreaded it would be, but I've become such a Piper mark in the last few years. His awful dropkick is the precursor to the Shining Wizard in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 Watched Piper/Hogan (my best friend is in the audience..if anyone of you knew what he looked like, that would matter) before I went into the work. I lost it when Tony and Dusty were freaking out over Piper pulling out Hogan's hair and Heenan deadpanned "It won't take long". The match is better than I dreaded it would be, but I've become such a Piper mark in the last few years. His awful dropkick is the precursor to the Shining Wizard in my book. You can tell Hogan likes Heenan, otherwise the hair joke wouldn't have been made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 Yeah, it was forbidden in the 80s WWF, I think. Okay, who didn't mark out when Muta busted out a Cattle Mutilation? Sting's reversal was pretty swank, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 Yes, during Hogan's big run, Vince told everyone that Hogan's hairline was completely off-limits in promos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zappafrank 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 So is what's being shown on 24/7 just an advance airing of the DVD that's coming out in January? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 I doubt it. I don't see the DVD having 25 matches (though that's not impossible) and The Essential Starrcade is clearly set up as defined episodes with the Mean Gene studio segments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigelow34 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 They need to do more of these Top 25 countdowns. Different and very interesting and they could go on for ever. Top 25 Summerslam matches, Raw matches, ECW match, on and on and on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 They need to do more of these Top 25 countdowns. Different and very interesting and they could go on for ever. Top 25 Summerslam matches, Raw matches, ECW match, on and on and on... Top 25 Wrestlemania Matches is a no-brainer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
