USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Christian will never ever be WWE/World champ. I'm making a (not so?) bold statement there and i'd bet money on it. He's (in my opinion of course) got a stigma of being too small in WWE land. Christian just isn't WWE main event material and he now won't ever be. He's in the same camp as Matt Hardy. This of course is just my opinion. Explain Jeff Hardy's push then. Christian is the same height as Jeff and 2 pounds heavier than Jeff. If he warrants it, the WWE would definitely give Christian a main event push. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2008 For today's wrestling... Jeff Harvey is over at RVD levels right now. Christian will never be that over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2008 For today's wrestling... Jeff Harvey is over at RVD levels right now. Christian will never be that over. Wasn't he quite over in his final months on Raw before getting neutered on Smackdown? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garfieldsnose 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2008 For today's wrestling... Jeff Harvey is over at RVD levels right now. Christian will never be that over. For today's wrestling... For today's wrestling... I agree with KOAB that Hardy is the most over he has ever been. I think Christian could get over as a main eventer, but he wouldn't surpass Jeff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldengreek 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2008 Whats the latest on Christian ? Did he sign yet ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2008 Whats the latest on Christian ? Did he sign yet ? He is expected to sign once his TNA deal expires, which should be any day now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2008 I wouldn't be surprised if Christian won the WWE Championship in the future myself. The obvious scenario if that happened would be him alligning with Edge when he debuts and ultimately turning on him. In which case, if the fans reacted big to that he'd have enough momentum to get a title run. Size is still a big deal, but certainly not as much as it once was. If Kendrick can make a WWE Title main-event, someone like Christian could easily go to the next level. I wouldn't bet money on it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
This is Bo 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2008 It all boils down to the fan reaction. I mean, Rey Rey became champion and he's the smallest of them all. Jeff is getting push and could be the champ, he just need to stop 'fuckin up'. Punk isnt that big at all, and he was champ. Size really is not a factor anymore, it's all about crowd reaction, if the crowd gets behind him like they did with Rey, Eddie, Jeff without fuckin up, then he could become a main eventer/champ. Thats my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
This is Bo 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2008 It all boils down to the fan reaction. I mean, Rey Rey became champion and he's the smallest of them all. Jeff is getting push and could be the champ, he just need to stop 'fuckin up'. Punk isnt that big at all, and he was champ. Size really is not a factor anymore, it's all about crowd reaction, if the crowd gets behind him like they did with Rey, Eddie, Jeff without fuckin up, then he could become a main eventer/champ. Thats my opinion. Ooppps, double post, DAMN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2008 Those guys have a certain X-factor to them though or excel really well at one thing. Christian is solid guy in a fields, but there's nothing he's really great at. What was regarded as his one strength in his mic work... well, it just happened to be brutally exposed in TNA when he was allowed to do his own thing. I'm just really letting this TNA run bring down the old way I looked at him. See, his last year or so in WWE had me believing here was a guy who was ready to take the next step and become a true main event player. But, the TNA run has left me thinking that perhaps WWE was protecting the guy. Though, I still think he could possibly be a guy you could plug into any spot on the card, even a quick main event run to establish your new champion right out of the gate. Basically the role JBL has right now. I see that with the right protection of the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2008 Being brutally exposed in TNA...meaning he carried himself like a true main eventer on the mic and outclassed just about everyone he came across? Am I the only one who thought he had a good run in TNA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2008 Being brutally exposed in TNA...meaning he carried himself like a true main eventer on the mic and outclassed just about everyone he came across? Am I the only one who thought he had a good run in TNA? I thought he had a solid TNA run and showed he can carry a load. But I just don't think the WWE will think he can carry a WWE load. If the crowd reaction isn't big enough in their opinion, he'll be the midcard Edge lackey they always had him as. Which will be incredibly depressing seeing him just take the Chavo spot with Vickie and Edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2008 We live in a world where CM Punk gets a few months with the title even thought they had nothing for him to do, and clearly no intention on following up with any kind of push at the top. Anyone can hold it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldengreek 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2008 Being brutally exposed in TNA...meaning he carried himself like a true main eventer on the mic and outclassed just about everyone he came across? Am I the only one who thought he had a good run in TNA? I thought he was GREAT. Loved his increased moveset also. The E "style" inhibits so many of these guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2008 There was a run that he had end of last year/beginning of this one where he was absolutely tremendous. He did more new things that made sense in his match with Samoa Joe at Bound For Glory than I'd seen out of him in a long time. He then went on to have 2 great matches with shitty endings with Angle. Now...most people can have good matches with Joe and Angle...but he was really really good in that stretch. And his mic work when he was a heel was great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Truthiness 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2008 He was really good during the Coalition era, but I basically agree with KOAB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPopStarKami 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2008 We live in a world where CM Punk gets a few months with the title even thought they had nothing for him to do, and clearly no intention on following up with any kind of push at the top. Anyone can hold it. How about Snitsky? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2008 We live in a world where CM Punk gets a few months with the title even thought they had nothing for him to do, and clearly no intention on following up with any kind of push at the top. Anyone can hold it. How about Snitsky? Mike Knox? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2008 I could see Christian getting a short reign with either of the two major world belts. If CM Punk can have the belt, Christian certainly can. Hell, a few years back I would have never thought Edge or even Chris Jericho would hold a world title. Times have changed in WWE. Vince isn't as obsessed with huge guys like everyone still thinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YourKock'sReallyGreat 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Partial source: F4Wonline.com - As noted earlier, Tyson Tomko returned to WWE this past Monday in a dark match before RAW, defeating Paul Burchill. The match was designed to help Tomko look better and get over with the RAW audience. Word is that when Vince McMahon got a good look at Tomko on Monday and what Vince believed to be his poor physical shape, Vince jumped on John Laurinaitis, who was a big proponent of bringing Tomko back to WWE. A source reports that Tomko may already be done with WWE and may not make it back to the main roster. Tomko was expected to train at Florida Championship Wrestling until WWE was ready for him to come to the main roster. Tomko lives about an hour from FCW's training facility but only showed up to train a few times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 What the hell? Based on how he last looked in TNA, he was in anything but poor physical shape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Braden Walker Syndrome? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Braden Walker Syndrome? He at least made it to tv once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanks for the Fish 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Did Tomko not train since he left TNA? Or is it just because Tomko isn't muscled up like Batista or even Kane? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 If Tomko is in "poor physical shape" then how in the hell do guys like Festus receive pushes and make it to TV/the main roster? Am I the only one who thinks that Vince suffers from bi-polar disorder..? Someone needs to get the old coot on meds, asap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 If Tomko is in "poor physical shape" then how in the hell do guys like Festus receive pushes and make it to TV/the main roster? Am I the only one who thinks that Vince suffers from bi-polar disorder..? Someone needs to get the old coot on meds, asap. I figured out years ago Vince is totally insane. Plus odds are keeping his body in shape from all his handy helpers have left his brain a little bit like swiss cheese. Nevermind his delusional opinion that big men always beat small men in a fight. I would like to see what Tomko looks like now though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 tomkos dark match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psycho Penguin 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Doesn't look in poor physical shape to me, but whatever. Vince didn't notice this "poor physical shape" before re-signing him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Doesn't look in poor physical shape to me, but whatever. Vince didn't notice this "poor physical shape" before re-signing him? Vince doesn't sign people. John Laurinaitis does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanks for the Fish 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 He desn't look in bad shape, but he looks in normal shape. Vince probably figures that if you're taking your comeback seriously you'd come in peak shape given that you had nothing to do except work out the last handful of weeks. His physique is really less than impressive there, he looks pasty and saggy, and the match seemed rather shitty to boot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
