Naked Snake 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 I've always loved the bodyguard angles in wrestling. Wrestler is the target of mulitiple enemies. In order to ensure the champion keeps his title, he enlists the aid of a bodyguard/insurance policy/etc to make sure he doesn't lose the title. This topic is to discuss some of the worst and best angles in history. For me, Shawn/Diesel is the tops Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 I've always loved the bodyguard angles in wrestling. Wrestler is the target of mulitiple enemies. In order to ensure the champion keeps his title, he enlists the aid of a bodyguard/insurance policy/etc to make sure he doesn't lose the title. This topic is to discuss some of the worst and best angles in history. For me, Shawn/Diesel is the tops The best payoff for the bodyguard angle is when after the bodyguard takes out all of the champion's competition, he turns on the champ and goes after the belt himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 If not for the bodyguard angle, we'd never have Mr. Hughes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 The most unique bodyguard angle from the little pre-94 WWF clips I've seen was DiBiase/Virgil. The bodyguard was basically just someone DiBiase threw in the path of people when he didn't want to get attacked. And then much later, Virgil beats DiBiase for the belt that DiBiase created. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianGuitarist 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 And then much later, Virgil beats DiBiase for the belt that DiBiase created. Virgil's turn was one of the biggest pops I've ever heard. I'm also a big fan of the bodyguard angles, and in the same vein, I thought the ApA was a fantastic idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WCS 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 I thought the ApA was a fantastic idea. "If this check bounces, so do you." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 I've always loved the bodyguard angles in wrestling. Wrestler is the target of mulitiple enemies. In order to ensure the champion keeps his title, he enlists the aid of a bodyguard/insurance policy/etc to make sure he doesn't lose the title. This topic is to discuss some of the worst and best angles in history. For me, Shawn/Diesel is the tops The best payoff for the bodyguard angle is when after the bodyguard takes out all of the champion's competition, he turns on the champ and goes after the belt himself. This turns the bodyguard heel and the champion face? Or the other way around? Personally I find it more satisfying when the bodyguard has had enough of the champion's abuse that he turns on him and becomes his own man, but retaining the badassery that got him over as a bodyguard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rezinda 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Starrcade 87 is really the only thing I've watched from NWA at that time, but I loved Big Bubba Rogers with the Midnight Express & Cornette. He just seemed like he could squash the Rock n roll express. Then he came to WWF & took on jobber persona within a few years. Love it!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 What are you talking about? Bossman wasn't a jobber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chazz 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Chyna when she first came in with HHH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 I've always loved the bodyguard angles in wrestling. Wrestler is the target of mulitiple enemies. In order to ensure the champion keeps his title, he enlists the aid of a bodyguard/insurance policy/etc to make sure he doesn't lose the title. This topic is to discuss some of the worst and best angles in history. For me, Shawn/Diesel is the tops The best payoff for the bodyguard angle is when after the bodyguard takes out all of the champion's competition, he turns on the champ and goes after the belt himself. This turns the bodyguard heel and the champion face? Or the other way around? Personally I find it more satisfying when the bodyguard has had enough of the champion's abuse that he turns on him and becomes his own man, but retaining the badassery that got him over as a bodyguard. Other way around. The bodyguard gets sick of having to do the dirty work for the heel champion, and when all the competition has been put away, the bodyguard does a face turn and instantly becomes a gigantic threat to the champ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Ok because the way you phrased it, it sounded like the bodyguard was an evil mastermind who knows exactly what he is doing all along. It'd be an interesting take on the angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Ok because the way you phrased it, it sounded like the bodyguard was an evil mastermind who knows exactly what he is doing all along. It'd be an interesting take on the angle. I agree... that would definitely be an interesting twist. However, you almost would have to do a double turn as it would be hard to justify why a strong face champion would need a bodyguard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Not really. It only takes one guy turning. You have the heel champion being almost manipulated by his larger and more heelish bodyguard. You could have the fans dying to see the champion discover the bodyguard's plot, and you can either have him actually find out beforehand and kick the bodyguard to the curb, turning himself face for shedding this malicious presence OR have the bodyguard carry out his plan to perfection and the champion gets the sympathy face turn out of it (think Sid/HBK). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garfieldsnose 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 I thought the HBK/Sid split was kinda funny, because HBK was acting heelish before Sid turned on him. HBK basically tells Sid he was the reason he lost at WM 11 and then gives him the night off, and Sid snaps. The way Sid snapped made the whole angle work, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 HBK basically tells Sid he was the reason he lost at WM 11 Well wasn't he? I remember Sid distracting the ref during a key pinfall attempt, and it went downhill from there for Shawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garfieldsnose 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Yeah, but I had no clue it was coming so when HBK said that I was just like damn, one strike and he's out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 The only reason HBK came out of that as the face was because Diesel came out immediately to run off Sid from the ring and attend to him. Take Diesel out of that and Sid is the face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Truthiness 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 I doubt it, HBK was getting face heat at a time, and the multiple power bomb spot from Sid was sold as a devious act around that time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Yeah, the fans were dying for a reason to cheer Shawn. Sid gave it to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yankovic fan 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 If not for the bodyguard angle, we'd never have Mr. Hughes! You got me to thinking about him and so I did some research. I did not realize how young Mr. Hughes was when he came out in WCW! He was late 20s. That's incredible to me. He was a former college football player which I also did not know. I guess you put a guy in professional clothes (instead of spandex) and it adds a few years. Plus his name was "Mr." so that too suggests a more advnaced age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 And what's funny is that when he showed up in the WWF in 1999 with Chris Jericho, he looked about 15 years younger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Truthiness 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Is Mr. Hughes dead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timmy8271 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 No he's a trainer at Sargent Buddy Lee Parker's school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 And what's funny is that when he showed up in the WWF in 1999 with Chris Jericho, he looked about 15 years younger. I was just remembering that the other day. Talk about a short and forgettable run. Did he get injured or something? That whole Jericho/Shamrock feud around that time just tanked completely. Funny...whenever I think of Mr. Hughes, I remember PN News coming out and doing a rap that ended with "I don't care if I win, I don't care if I lose, I'm just here to get revenge on Mr. Hughes...yo baby, yo baby, yo." Man, it's been over 15 years and I still remember that for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timmy8271 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 I think he had health problems around that time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 No one has mentioned this bodyguard angle yet: Berlyn and The Wall. Of course with that one I don't really recall The Wall ever turning or anything. One day he was just wrestling matches. I enjoyed one in OVW with Bobby Lashley being in Bolin Services and they did a slow burn where he eventually got fed up with Ken Doane. Eventually Lashley got pretty over from this angle and WWE called up him, so oddly enough he ended up jobbing in the blowoff to the feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 No one has mentioned this bodyguard angle yet: Berlyn and The Wall. Of course with that one I don't really recall The Wall ever turning or anything. One day he was just wrestling matches. I remember The Wall and Berlyn having a feud for about a half second, ending with The Wall squashing Berlyn on Thunder. But I don't remember why exactly they broke up. Fake edit- Looked it up on DDTDigest...dumbass Russo booking. Anyways to elaborate, The Wall was wrestling Vampiro on the episode of Nitro the night after Mayhem. During the match, for whatever reason Berlyn hit Vampiro with a chair while The Wall had him in a chokeslam, causing Vampiro to get the DQ win. Understandably, The Wall got pissed and wouldn't let Berlyn leave the ring so Berlyn slapped him. Thus ending one of the most forgettable duos in wrestling history. I don't know who was supposed to be the babyface but Berlyn disappeared shortly thereafter and returned as Das Wunderkind six months or so later and The Wall would go on to greater things...sort of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 The Wall was the babyface as Berlyn wasn't likable at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Ocean 3 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Ralphus, baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites