Insane Bump Machine 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 There was apparently some unpleasantness on the WWE tour of Australia. A rumor got started in the lockerroom that Goldberg was asked to do the tour in place of HHH and refused. Incredibly it was Kevin Nash and Shawn Michaels who were most vocal, saying that Goldberg was not a team player, and that they were going to do something about it when they returned to the States. This rumor and resulting attitude was said to have put a damper on what should have been a joyous trip performing in front of huge, hot crowds. Later, when it was revealed to be false, as Goldberg would have done the tour if the visa could have been secured, those who were bashing Goldberg on the tour were said to be buddy buddy with him backstage at Raw. credit: Wrestling Observer Newsletter This is great. You go guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Incredibly it was Kevin Nash and Shawn Michaels who were most vocal, saying that Goldberg was not a team player, and that they were going to do something about it when they returned to the States. You would think that tough talk means "We're going to kick his ass," but with the Kliq it means "I'm going to whine to Vince!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 (edited) Don't Nash and HBK do limited house shows? Go team players go!! Edited August 20, 2003 by oldschoolwrestling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 So they were mad, and when they found out that there was a mistake (or false rumor in this case) they were no longer mad. Exactly how an adult would handle the situation? Yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane Bump Machine 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 So they were mad, and when they found out that there was a mistake (or false rumor in this case) they were no longer mad. Exactly how an adult would handle the situation? Yeah. That's not the point. Nash and especially HBK are not exactly what one would call 'team players' themselves, are they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Aside from it not being in Goldberg's contract to work those dates, didn't they not have a visa for him to work in Aus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest webmasterofwrestlegame Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Well I can understand their reactions at the time in Australia - HBK has to lay down on planes just to get his back through the trip. I think they (HBK and Nash) have both been team players in their latest runs, haven't they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 If jobbing to Test clean isn't being a team player, I don't know what is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted August 20, 2003 This is the funniest thing ever. Shawn Michaels saying someone else isn't a team player. What a 24 carat, Grade A, top drawer, absolute cock-jockey he really is. So they were mad, and when they found out that there was a mistake (or false rumor in this case) they were no longer mad. Exactly how an adult would handle the situation? Yeah. Yeah, adults would sit around being hypocrites while jumping to conclusions and then kiss the ass of the person they bad mouthed. Sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane Bump Machine 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I think they (HBK and Nash) have both been team players in their latest runs, haven't they? maybe, but that doesn't erase all the stuff they pulled in the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Well I can understand their reactions at the time in Australia - HBK has to lay down on planes just to get his back through the trip. I think they (HBK and Nash) have both been team players in their latest runs, haven't they? Yea- Going over Jericho at Wrestlemania and then not even doing the clean job to him in the rematch- What a team player. This is the guy who had to get a return job from Ric Flair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Shawn's not being the best Christian he can be. He should open up the love of the lord or something to Goldberg...I really don't know how these things work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest webmasterofwrestlegame Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Barron - do you know that HBK demanded this or was it the WWE writers that came up with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I don't care- If he was a team player he would make sure to put over Jericho CLEANLY and not only job to him because of a "tainted" victory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Shawn's not being the best Christian he can be. He should open up the love of the lord or something to Goldberg...I really don't know how these things work. Yea but Goldberg's Jewish. So it wouldn't work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Shawn's not being the best Christian he can be. He should open up the love of the lord or something to Goldberg...I really don't know how these things work. Yea but Goldberg's Jewish. So it wouldn't work Don't most Christians push their beliefs on people whether they want them or not? Stopping now...don't need an unwanted flame war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I don't care- If he was a team player he would make sure to put over Jericho CLEANLY and not only job to him because of a "tainted" victory Aren't the writers/bookers responsible for this and not the wrestlers? Not that I don't think Nash is a shitbag, but still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I'm talking about Shawn- not Nash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 This is the biggest crock of bullshit that I have seen in a while. Just a few weeks ago everyone was calling Goldberg a bitch for not going and being apart of the tour with HHH injured. Then when it became obvious the reason he couldn't go, it was ignored. Now if Nash and Michaels do it, they are hypocrites, of course, because nearly a FUCKING DECADE ago they weren't team players. Then they find out the reason he didn't come was because of a good reason, they make nice with him after saying they would give him a talking to when they get back. But of course, thats not how adults would do things sez some of you. Whatever. These two guys could dive off a bridge to save a bus of drowing nuns carrying babys that crashed while picking up a new shipment of puppies and kittens and you would still shit on them for that. Bottomline, they both have done what they've been told since they've been back, and have worked hard as can be expected. Give them a break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 they both have done what they've been told since they've been back You mean like run to Vince and ask him to change matches so X-Pac doesn't job? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane Bump Machine 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 This is the biggest crock of bullshit that I have seen in a while. Just a few weeks ago everyone was calling Goldberg a bitch for not going and being apart of the tour with HHH injured. Then when it became obvious the reason he couldn't go, it was ignored. Now if Nash and Michaels do it, they are hypocrites, of course, because nearly a FUCKING DECADE ago they weren't team players. Then they find out the reason he didn't come was because of a good reason, they make nice with him after saying they would give him a talking to when they get back. But of course, thats not how adults would do things sez some of you. Whatever. These two guys could dive off a bridge to save a bus of drowing nuns carrying babys that crashed while picking up a new shipment of puppies and kittens and you would still shit on them for that. Bottomline, they both have done what they've been told since they've been back, and have worked hard as can be expected. Give them a break. I actually posted the news about Goldberg not getting his papers in time back then. So it wasn't completely ignored. How do you define decade? Nash pulled shit in WCW all the time, until what? 3 years ago? And what's with changing X-Pac's matches in WWE during the last nWo stint? Shawn hasn't done much during the last 5 years because he was retired. Before then he was one of the biggest ego dicks in the business, so him bitching about co-workers not being team players is a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanghai Kid 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 The IWC is built on hypocracy, get used to it. It's as important for us to function as Oxygen is for the Human race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Was there a NWO match that X-Pac did not job in. The thing was X-Pac was performing for Heat and for Raw and felt he shouldn't have to job on both shows. He still didn't even get the win in either one I don't believe, he just didn't job in the tag match later. Whooptie doo. If at any given time you are being a team player and have been doing it cosistantly for about a year + (Shawn and Nash) then they have every right to say something. And I am sure that they weren't the only ones. Of course they will get singled out because OMG~! SHAWN HELD BACK BAM BAM!!! HE'S DOING IT AGAIN!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 It's not like Nash to sabotage Goldberg. Hmm. The plan is for Goldberg to go over HHH for the belt. There have been rumours that Goldberg may not get the belt because of his limited schedule and selfishness. HBK and Nash have been "vocal" about Goldberg not being a team player. Goldberg is the only guy HHH has yet to squash under his thumb and is the only guy who could be seen as a credible champion at this point on Raw. HBK and Nash are friends with HHH - the guy who has held tightly on to the World title for almost a year only to have lost it once - to HBK - and to have his longest feud with Nash. But it's so unkliqlike to be looking out for themselves, so they must be thinking about the welfare of all the boys who really deserve it. Right Rip? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Don't Nash and HBK do limited house shows? Go team players go!! You'd imagine they can't do house shows because one has a messed up back and the other one has jelly for knees not because they just don't want to work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 It's not like Nash to sabotage Goldberg. Hmm. The plan is for Goldberg to go over HHH for the belt. There have been rumours that Goldberg may not get the belt because of his limited schedule and selfishness. HBK and Nash have been "vocal" about Goldberg not being a team player. Goldberg is the only guy HHH has yet to squash under his thumb and is the only guy who could be seen as a credible champion at this point on Raw. HBK and Nash are friends with HHH - the guy who has held tightly on to the World title for almost a year only to have lost it once - to HBK - and to have his longest feud with Nash. But it's so unkliqlike to be looking out for themselves, so they must be thinking about the welfare of all the boys who really deserve it. Right Rip? I don't buy into the Kliq having much power now except for HHH, and even still it doesn't look like he has as much as Shawn and Nash did back then. If the Kliq had as much power as everyone says they do, Nash would have traded the belt with HHH for about 3 months, Shawn would have had another title reign, X-Pac would still have a job, and so would Hall regardless of all the shit he's done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I don't care- If he was a team player he would make sure to put over Jericho CLEANLY and not only job to him because of a "tainted" victory I agree, and what makes it even worse is that in a hair vs. hair match, the loser should show some sort of humility by getting his head shaved, yet at the end of Raw, Nash comes out with his perfect looking buzzcut like he can give two shits that his head is shaved, which makes the hair vs. hair gimmick matter less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Was there a NWO match that X-Pac did not job in. The thing was X-Pac was performing for Heat and for Raw and felt he shouldn't have to job on both shows. He still didn't even get the win in either one I don't believe, he just didn't job in the tag match later. Whooptie doo. I don't remember the exact circumstances but X-Pac was supposed to job to Booker T (To make him look like a threat) but Nash went and got it vetoed. Some team player huh? If at any given time you are being a team player and have been doing it cosistantly for about a year + (Shawn and Nash) then they have every right to say something. And I am sure that they weren't the only ones. Of course they will get singled out because OMG~! SHAWN HELD BACK BAM BAM!!! HE'S DOING IT AGAIN!!! I also don't think being a team player is taking an uneccessary, uneeded and pointless cheapshot at The Rock on live tv. Given their pasts- They have no right to say anything. Why do they care that Goldberg isn't going to Australia- visa or not- It was his right to say no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest God Junior Report post Posted August 20, 2003 By the way, 1wrestling.com said that they had several people in the travel industry tell them that it's possible to get a Visa to Australia in about 10 minutes. Dave Scherer (I think) then tried doing this himself, and verified it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane Bump Machine 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 You'd imagine they can't do house shows because one has a messed up back and the other one has jelly for knees not because they just don't want to work. That just shows that they shouldn't be active wrestlers anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites