slimm44 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 The following comes from TheMayhem.com Starting in January, the WWE will make it's next effort to further the brand extention, as WWE Magazine will be renamed to WWE Smackdown! Magazine and will cover only Smackdown superstars, as RAW changes to cover only RAW superstars. Smart move in my opinion. I remember Tazz doing an article about this. It is smart now that Raw and Smackdown are seperated indefinitely with the ppv's and all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 So now the WWE has TWO vanilla magazines only now they are special cause they cover seperate brands. Great....wonderful.... Who do I call about cancelling my RAW subscription? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 Awesome news Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest drdrainoscott Report post Posted October 23, 2003 This blows actually. Raw Magazine was always the magazine for the smarks while WWE Magazine was for the marks. My subscription to Raw ended about 2 years ago, but I remember there being some really good articles in it. Ones that stand out are the issue where they gave the Radicals 10 pages or so to talk about whatever they wanted right after they jumped and another article about how Al Snow had to go through jobber hell to get where he is now. Now they both will most likely be mark magazines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 23, 2003 Seriously, does anyone besides marks even read their mags anymore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest drdrainoscott Report post Posted October 23, 2003 Seriously, does anyone besides marks even read their mags anymore? Well I stopped considering myself a mark in like 1996 and I had a subscription to Raw from almost when it started till the end of 2001. The only reason why I stopped was because I finally got around to subscribing to the Observer again. And let me tell you, that was the best move I've ever made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 I would subscribe to raw if and only if pictures of trish's beaver were included in each magazine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 I might pick a Raw up every now and then, but I stopped reading WWE magazine sometime in 2000. Say what you will about Raw, but they do have some pretty good articles in there from time to time, and I hope that they don't suddenly decide to start kayfabing everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 I would subscribe to raw if and only if pictures of trish's beaver were included in each magazine. Trish has a pet beaver? Oh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 Trishes Beaver ...hmm, I thought it'd be hairless. Anyways, yeah, I sometimes get the magazines for a long, boring trip to... I can assure you, I will never be getting RAW magazine again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 I try to read one of them on a flight to Cancun and as soon as i saw the cover of Orton with 2 chicks i threw it away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 Yeah, that'll get everyone to believe we are separate brands. I bet they'll still promo Raw ppv's on SD and SD ppv's on Raw. Wow, what a separate brand. I remember when WWF used to promote Starcade in December for WCW and also remember WCW running ads for WWF whenever Wrestlemania used to come around.... ....oh wait, that NEVER HAPPENED! Again, no one, not even marks believe the product is really split. Look at the numbers. The same fans watch both shows. If there really was an illusion that both brands were separate, one of the shows would've pulled ahead in ratings and buyrates by now. When you adjust the numbers knowing that SD is available in more homes, you'll see that both shows are even. That's because they haven't created a real separate brand. Smarks just don't bitch about SD as much because the roster is heavy with smark favorites, so for smarks it really does seem like a separate promotion. Too bad 98% of the fans still here (aka the Marks) don't believe in the split. WWE hasn't given them any reason to believe that things are different. Both shows have GM's and/or Vince in really high profile roles that are more important than even ME'ers. Both shows have dueling authority figure feuds (Raw=Austin vs Bisch, SD=Vince vs Steph) Until Piper was let go, both shows had talk show segments (Raw=Jericho highlite reel, SD=Piper's pit) and so on. Both shows also have watered down world titles that no one cares about any more. Bottom line: Raw=SD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 Especially when McMahons cross-over on both shows at will... and how they use the same crappy booking for everything they do, and the same crappy format and the same 2 announce team... it's the little things that will make fans believe in the split (ok, they will never actually BELIEVE in the split, but it would at least give each brand distinction). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 I really wanted to see a survivor series match with Raw Vs Smackdown. So many disappointments, so little time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffybeast 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 This blows actually. Raw Magazine was always the magazine for the smarks while WWE Magazine was for the marks. My subscription to Raw ended about 2 years ago, but I remember there being some really good articles in it. Ones that stand out are the issue where they gave the Radicals 10 pages or so to talk about whatever they wanted right after they jumped and another article about how Al Snow had to go through jobber hell to get where he is now. Now they both will most likely be mark magazines. That's the first thing I thought of when I read this news blurb. I never read the WWE magazine because it's just an extension of the storylines and thus is junk. I actually enjoyed the RAW magazine because the stories showcased the talent in a "real life" setting. Now both mags will just suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 Maybe next year after they have a series of split PPVs - they've only had 2 each so far. Speaking of which, the 4 joint PPV's aren't doing anyone any favours in terms of believability. One a year (WM) I can see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 And does the WWE really WANT people believing there are two brands? Hell no, cause some fans would only watch one of the brands and the ratings would tank. Quit the bull, leave the magazines alone. Plus, does anyone really want 20 or 30 stories on Orlando Jordan??? I swear this company is being run by a monkey with a typewriter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted October 23, 2003 Thing is, they're in a quandary when it comes to the other 3 joint-brand PPVs. They're flagship shows, and there's an uneven number of them, so it seems unfair to have only one brand have a particular one (especially the Rumble), and for one brand to have two while the other has only one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 Yep, quite the quandry there. Having dual PPV's hurts the split, but not having the "big shows" hurts the buyrate. Long-term, having only 1 dual ppv is best. But we all know the WWE isn't very good at long term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 This is a great move... IF both brand magazines are more of a shoot than kayfabe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 You obviously haven't heard about their 25 most important people in Sports Entertainment... Torrie Wilson at #15 beating Jim Cornette and Mick Foley, the McMahon family at #1, Austin at #2, and HHH at #3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 You obviously haven't heard about their 25 most important people in Sports Entertainment... Torrie Wilson at #15 beating Jim Cornette and Mick Foley, the McMahon family at #1, Austin at #2, and HHH at #3. Was that in the WWE Magazine, or the RAW magazine? I assume you mean the RAW magazine, which pretty much compromises the idea I've gotten from the magazine. In the last few months, they've done an comprehensive study and interview on Kurt Angle's neck injury, as well as the interview they did with Flair, which covered all of his NWA/WCW/WWF World Title reigns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 My bad, it's... "GM sent this one. You better sit down before reading it or the shock may take you off of your feet! … In the current edition of "WWE Magazine" (to be renamed Smackdown Magazine next month), there is a list of the "20 Most Important and Powerful People in Sports Entertainment" or something along those lines. Four guesses as to who was named #1: THE ENTIRE MCMAHON FAMILY. So they are telling the fans the McMahons are the most important people on the roster. More important than even the top guys on each show. Austin was #2 and HHH #3. Torrie Wilson of all people was #15. I say that because she ranks higher than Jim Cornette and Mick Foley who are also included in the list. -1click Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 Trishes Beaver I figured it'd be brown. Torrie Wilson of all people was #15. I say that because she ranks higher than Jim Cornette and Mick Foley who are also included in the list. These writers need to die a horrible, gruesome, painful death. Fuck you, WWE/Smackdown magazine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 Torrie Wilson of all people was #15. I say that because she ranks higher than Jim Cornette and Mick Foley who are also included in the list. These writers need to die a horrible, gruesome, painful death. Fuck you, WWE/Smackdown magazine. O_o ... ... ... My eye... I won't be able to sleep tonight, 'cause it isn't going to stop twitching anytime soon. Maybe after the weekend and my ever reading that is somehow mentally blocked. My reply or what I was replying to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2003 Yep, quite the quandry there. Having dual PPV's hurts the split, but not having the "big shows" hurts the buyrate. Long-term, having only 1 dual ppv is best. But we all know the WWE isn't very good at long term. Can't do that because you would have an odd number of split PPVs. You need 2. Might as well use Royal Rumble & Wrestlemania, since that's what gets the highest buyrates most of the time anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 But the RR and WM are too close together. RR - RAW ** NWO - SMACK WM - Split BL - RAW JD - SMACK VG - RAW SS - SMACK ** UF - RAW NM - SMACK SS - RAW ** AG - SMACK Raw gets both RR and SurSer BUT Smackdown gets SumSlam and NWO which builds toward WM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JumpinJackFlash Report post Posted October 24, 2003 I have only bought one wwe magazine(in general) and that was the wrestlemania edition raw magazine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 Cool. How soon until Steph is on the cover of the Smackdown issue the same month HHH is on the cover of Raw? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2003 I swear this company is being run by a monkey with a typewriter. I doubt that because, the monkey would have done a better job then the crap we've been getting from the McMahon family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
