Nevermortal 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Since the WWE is doing a special on their 10 Best....Why not start a thread for our own? My 10: 1. Steve Austin v. Bret "The Hitman" Hart (WMXIII) 2. Bret "The Hitman" Hart v. Owen Hart (WMX) 3. Shawn Michaels v. Razor Ramon (WMX) 4. Ric Flair v. Randy Savage (WMVIII) 5. Ricky Steamboat v. Randy Savage (WMIII) 6. TLC: The Hardy Boyz v. The Dudley Boyz v. Edge & Christian (WMX-7) 7. Randy Savage v. Hulk Hogan (WMV) 8. The Rock v. Steve Austin (WMX-7) 9. The Rock v. Hulk Hogan (WMX-8) 10. Ultimate Warrior v. Randy Savage (WMVII) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slabinskia 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 when is this special ? 1.bret-austin wm13 2.hbk-razor wm10 3.flair-savage wm8 4.steamboat-savage wm3 5.bret-owen wm10 6.tlc wm16 7.savage-warriar wm7 8.rock-austin wm17 9.bret-piper wm8 10.hbk-jericho wm19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 14, 2004 FUCK A TOP TEN...I'MA DO A TOP 30! 1). Steve Austin Vs Bret Hart WM13 2). Steve Austin Vs The Rock WMX7 3). Bret Hart Vs Owen Hart WMX 4). Ric Flair Vs Randy Savage WM8 5). TLC 1: Hardy Boyz Vs EC VS Dudley Boyz WMX7 6). Ricky Steamboat Vs Randy Savage WM3 7. Warrior Vs Savage WM7 8). Bret Hart Vs HBK WM12 9). Roddy Piper Vs Bret Hart WM8 10). HBK Vs Razor Ramon WMX 11). Randy Savage Vs Hulk Hogan WM5 12). Chris Benoit Vs Kurt Angle WMX7 13). HBK Vs Jericho WMXIX 14). Dudley Boyz Vs EC Vs Hardys WM2000 15). Jack and Funk Vs NAO WM14 16). The Brainbusters Vs Strike Force WM5 17). Austin Vs HBK WM14 18). Rock Vs Hulk Hogan WM18 19). Austin Vs Rock WM15 20). Brock Lesnar Vs Kurt Angle WMXIX 21). Hogan Vs Warrior WM6 22). Triple H Vs Undertaker WM17 23). Diesel Vs HBK WM11 24). Triple H Vs Owen Hart WM14 25). Jericho Vs Benoit Vs Angle WM2000 26). The Rockers Vs Haku and Barbarian WM7 27). Undertaker Vs Ric Flair WMX8 28). The Rock Vs Steve Austin WMXIX 29). Chris Jericho Vs HHH WMX8 30). Andre The Giant Vs Hulk Hogan WM3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 1. Bret Hart vs. Austin (WM 13) 2. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (WM X) 3. Austin vs. The Rock (WM X7) 4. Ultimate Warrior vs. Randy Savage (WM VII) 5. Chris Jericho vs. HBK (WM XIX) 6. HBK vs. Razor Ramon (WM X) 7. Bret Hart vs. Roddy Piper (WM VIII) 8. Triangle Ladder Match (WM 2000) 9. Cactus Jack & Funk vs. New Age Outlaws (WM XIV) 10. HBK vs. Bret Hart (WM XII) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Edit: I deleted my list so I could tweak it a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 My top ten: 1.) Bret Hart Vs. Shawn Michaels (WM XII) 2.) Kurt Angle Vs. Brock Lesnar (WM XIX) 3.) Stone Cold Vs. The Rock (WM XVII) 4.) Hulk Hogan Vs. Ultimate Warrior (WM VI) 5.) Ric Flair Vs. Randy Savage (WM VIII) 6.) Bret Hart Vs. Owen Hart (WM X) 7.) Bret Hart Vs. Steve Austin (WM XIII) 8.) Shawn Michaels v. Razor Ramon (WMX) 9.) The Rock v. Hulk Hogan (WM XVIII) 10.) The Steiner Bros. Vs. The Headshrinkers (WM IX) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 15, 2004 Hmmm... 10.) Hulk Hogan vs. The Rock WM X-8 9.) Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon WM X 8.) TLC II WM X-Seven 7.) Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair WM VIII 6.) Ultimate Warrior vs. Randy savage WM VII 5.) Hulk Hogan vs. Ultimate Warrior WM VI 4.) The Rock vs. Steve Austin WM X-Seven 3.) Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart WM X 2.) Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat WM III 1.) Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin WM XIII Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 1. Savage v Flair, WM8 2. Bret v Owen, WM10 3. Bret v Austin, WM13 4. Rock v Austin, WMX7 5. Savage v Steamboat, WM3 6. Savage v Warrior, WM7 7. TLC2, WMX7 8. Savage v Hogan, WM5 9. Piper v Hart, WM8 10. Benoit v Angle, WMX7/HBK v Razor, WM10 Damn Savage is a real Wrestlemania MVP. Great matches with Steamboat and Flair plus dragging Warrior & Hogan to, arguably, their best matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 Sadly, I haven't seen Flair/Savage, Warrior/Hogan, or Warrior/Savage in years, nor have I seen the two most recent Wrestlemanias. Still, from what I've recently seen I would go with: 1. Rock vs. Austin Wrestlemania 17 ***3/4 -Austin plays the determined challenger role to peferection, even going so far as to attack the Rock before the bell. Despite the out of place, mood killing goofiness with Vince, this match has perhaps one of the very best final runs I've seen in a U.S. match. Austin's body language and emotion really makes the ending, as he does a remarkable job of displaying frustration and his win at any cost attitude. Very smart, and surprisingly deep match. 2. Austin vs. Hart Wrestlemania 13 ***3/4 -You know the story. Hart brings the hate, but sadly he doesn't work as well with Austin as the Rock did in a similar setting. While the story is dramatic, it just isn't as smart as the work in Rock/Austin. 3. Micheals vs. Ramon Wrestlemania 10 ***3/4 -A well built super fun spot fest that tells a good story centered around the match's gimmick. 4. Bret vs. Owen Wrestlemania 10 ***1/2-3/4 -Owen's string of nearfalls in the middle of the match is some of the most brilliant wrestling in WWF history. Sadly, you got the out of place leg work, and Bret's superhero escape of the Sharpshooter. But these are just minor complaints in an otherwise excellent match. But Micheals/Ramon is just so well put together the whole way through, and so much more focused that I think it beats out the "wrestling" match. 5. Savage vs. Steamboat Wrestlemania 3 ***1/4 -As the challenger, Steamboat's three thousand roll ups make since as does his control offense with the armbars. 6. Piper vs. Hart Wrestlemania 9 *** -An intersting battle of mind games, and an effective if not somewhat cheesy dramatic finish. Bret's Jumbo impersonation at the the beginning with the wristlock is something you don't see to often in Vince era WWF. 7. Beniot vs. Angle Wrestlemania 17 *** -Simple solid storytelling. 8. Savage vs. Hogan Wrestlemania 5 **3/4-*** -It's really amazing how much Hansen/Hogan the following year kills this match. Still, a smart match until the Hulk up. I'm running blank now. edited-due to my mistake on match time. Also decided to add 1/4 to Savage/Steamboat after re-watching it. If it's really around 15 minutes, I guess I've only missed about 2-3 minutes of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted February 15, 2004 My top 10 WrestleMania matches (in chronological order): Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat (WrestleMania III) The Ultimate Warrior vs. Randy Savage (WrestleMania VII) Roddy Piper vs. Bret Hart (WrestleMania VIII) Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage (WrestleMania VIII) Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (WrestleMania X) Razor Ramon vs. Shawn Michaels (WrestleMania X) Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin (WrestleMania 13) Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle (WrestleMania X-Seven) The Rock vs. Steve Austin (WrestleMania X-Seven) The Rock vs. Hulk Hogan (WrestleMania X-8) 5. Savage vs. Steamboat Wrestlemania 3 *** -For a 40+minute match in a such a limited environment as late 80s WWF, these two did alright. As the challenger, Steamboat's three thousand roll ups make since as does his control offense with the armbars. The match wasn't that long. It lasted a little under 15 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 We're going to need to bring this thread back from the dead after WrestleMania XX. Mostly because I refuse to post the list until I've seen them all again (and trust me, I will before WMXX comes around). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 15, 2004 Sadly, I haven't seen Flair/Savage, Warrior/Hogan, or Warrior/Savage in years, nor have I seen the two most recent Wrestlemanias. Still, from what I've recently seen I would go with: 1. Rock vs. Austin Wrestlemania 17 ***3/4 -Austin plays the determined challenger role to peferection, even going so far as to attack the Rock before the bell. Despite the out of place, mood killing goofiness with Vince, this match has perhaps one of the very best final runs I've seen in a U.S. match. Austin's body language and emotion really makes the ending, as he does a remarkable job of displaying frustration and his win at any cost attitude. Very smart, and surprisingly deep match. 2. Austin vs. Hart Wrestlemania 13 ***3/4 -You know the story. Hart brings the hate, but sadly he doesn't work as well with Austin as the Rock did in a similar setting. While the story is dramatic, it just isn't as smart as the work in Rock/Austin. 3. Micheals vs. Ramon Wrestlemania 10 ***3/4 -A well built super fun spot fest that tells a good story centered around the match's gimmick. 4. Bret vs. Owen Wrestlemania 10 ***1/2-3/4 -Owen's string of nearfalls in the middle of the match is some of the most brilliant wrestling in WWF history. Sadly, you got the out of place leg work, and Bret's superhero escape of the Sharpshooter. But these are just minor complaints in an otherwise excellent match. But Micheals/Ramon is just so well put together the whole way through, and so much more focused that I think it beats out the "wrestling" match. 5. Savage vs. Steamboat Wrestlemania 3 *** -For a 40+minute match in a such a limited environment as late 80s WWF, these two did alright. As the challenger, Steamboat's three thousand roll ups make since as does his control offense with the armbars. 6. Piper vs. Hart Wrestlemania 9 *** -An intersting battle of mind games, and an effective if not somewhat cheesy dramatic finish. Bret's Jumbo impersonation at the the beginning with the wristlock is something you don't see to often in Vince era WWF. 7. Beniot vs. Angle Wrestlemania 17 *** -Simple solid storytelling. 8. Savage vs. Hogan Wrestlemania 5 **3/4-*** -It's really amazing how much Hansen/Hogan the following year kills this match. Still, a smart match until the Hulk up. I'm running blank now. 3-fucking stars for some of the best WM matches ever? (grabs a baseball bat) stay where you are! (gets aplane ticket) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 5. Savage vs. Steamboat Wrestlemania 3 *** -For a 40+minute match in a such a limited environment as late 80s WWF, these two did alright. As the challenger, Steamboat's three thousand roll ups make since as does his control offense with the armbars. The match wasn't that long. It lasted a little under 15 minutes. I haven't seen the full Wrestlemania 3 tape version in ages. I only have a clipped version(Wrestlemania's greatest matches with redubed commentary), where it cuts with Gorilla saying something like,"were passed the 40 minute mark". Maybe Monsoon lost his mind or was just trying to make it seem more epic. I'll have to find the full version. edit: Just watched tape. Monsoon's exact words are,"This match has already gone by some thirty something minutes" after the clip. Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 3-fucking stars for some of the best WM matches ever? (grabs a baseball bat) stay where you are! (gets aplane ticket) Bring it on. Yeah, that's about as high as I would place them, because I've seen plenty of better matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 15, 2004 3-fucking stars for some of the best WM matches ever? (grabs a baseball bat) stay where you are! (gets aplane ticket) Bring it on. Yeah, that's about as high as I would place them, because I've seen plenty of better matches. I heard of under-rating, but damn. Let me guess, Kobashi fan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 3-fucking stars for some of the best WM matches ever? (grabs a baseball bat) stay where you are! (gets aplane ticket) Bring it on. Yeah, that's about as high as I would place them, because I've seen plenty of better matches. I heard of under-rating, but damn. Let me guess, Kobashi fan? Not underrating if you look at the bigger picture, there's more to wrestling than just what the WWF has produced in the past couple of years. Kobashi fan? Not one of my favorites. Kobashi could do something incredibly brilliant, only to turn around and do something totally retarded. If were just talking 90s All Japan, I always thought Misawa, Kawada, Taue, Hansen, and Jumbo were all better peformers at the peak of their careers. However, when he was motivated and focused he could be just as great if not better than any of them as evident in 4/93 vs. Kawada, and 5/91 vs. Jumbo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin3164life 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 Only ***1/2 for the greatness that was Austin/Rock and Austin/Bret? I understand that some people prefer Puro over the WWF/E, but that is underrating the matches. Anyway, here's my list 1. Austin/Rock (17) 2. Austin/Bret (13) 3. Flair/Savage (8) 4. Bret/Owen (10) 5. Steamboat/Savage (3) 6. Bret/Piper (8) 7. DiBiase/Savage (4) 8. Austin/Rock (19) 9. Jericho/Michaels (19) 10. Michaels/Ramon (10) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 Only ***1/2 for the greatness that was Austin/Rock and Austin/Bret? I understand that some people prefer Puro over the WWF/E, but that is underrating the matches. Actually ***3/4, for reasons I've done explained. There are simply better matches. Just because I'm not gonna toss out a blinding winter of snow flakes doesn't mean I'm saying the matches are bad. Kawada/Taue 1/15/91 is a better worked, more intense brawl than Austin/Hart Wrestlemania 13, and is almost as rich in story, yet it isn't even a top 50 All Japan match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCMaximo 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 1.Bret Hart vs Roddy Piper (WMVIII) 2.Bret Hart vs Owen Hart (WMX) 3.Edge & Christian vs Hardy Boyz vs Dudley Boys (WM2000) 4.Macho Man vs Ric Flair (WMVIII) 5.Steve Austin vs Shawn Michaels (WMXIV) 6.Bret Hart vs Steve Austin (WMXIII) 7.Ultimate Warrior vs Macho Man (WMVII) 8.Ricky Steamboat vs Maxho Man (WMIII) 9.Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels (WM19) 10.Shawn Michaels vs Razor Ramon (WMX) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2004 1. Hbk/Bret (WM12) 2. Bret/Austin (WM13) 3. Hbk/Razor (WMX) 4. Bret/Owen (WMX) 5. Rock/Austin (WM17) 6. HBK/Jericho (WM19) 7. Edge&Christian/Hardys/Dudleys (WM2000) 8. Bret/Piper (WM8) 9. Steamboat/Savage (WM3) 10. Kurt/Brock (WM19) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caboose 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2004 1) Rocky/Austin WM17 2) Savage/Steamboat WM3 3) Savage/Flair WM8 4) Savage/Warrior WM7 5) Austin/Bret WM13 6) HBK/Razor WM10 7) HBK/Jericho WM19 8) Hogan/Rocky WM18 (Not as wrestling, but as an Epic Meeting) 9) Edge & Christian/Hardy'z/Dudley'z WM16 10) Austin/HBK WM14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest two_tuff_toddy Report post Posted February 20, 2004 1. Shawn Michaels vs Razor Ramon - WM 10 2. Bret Hart vs Owen Hart - WM 10 3. Steve Austin vs Bret Hart - WM 13 4. Rock vs Steve Austin - WM 17 5. Randy Savage vs Ricky Steamboat - WM 3 6. Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels - WM 12 7. Randy Savage vs Ric Flair - WM 8 8. Chris Benoit vs Kurt Angle - WM 17 9. Randy Savage vs Ultimate Warrior - WM 7 10. TLC 2 - WM 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ToddRoyal Report post Posted February 20, 2004 1.) Bret Vs. Owen- X 2.) Shawn Vs. Razor- X 3.) Bret Vs. Austin- 13 4.) Savage Vs. Steamboat- III 5.) Rock Vs. Austin- X7 6.) Savage Vs. Flair- VIII 7.) Savage Vs. Warrior- VII 8.) Bret Vs. Piper- VIII 9.) Benoit Vs. Angle- X7 10.) Bret Vs. Shawn- XII Edited: See Below Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drury37 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2004 1.) Bret Vs. Owen- XX 2.) Shawn Vs. Razor- XX I assume you mean X not XX. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2004 1. Savage/Steamboat, III 2. Savage/Warrior, VII 3. HBK/Razor, X 4. Austin/Hart, XIII 5. Hart/Hart, X 6. Savage/Flair, VIII 7. Savage/Hogan, V 8. Austin/Rock, X-7 9. Angle/Benoit/Jericho, 2000 10. Hogan/Warrior, VI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mosaicv2 Report post Posted February 21, 2004 with all the millions of Wrestlemania matches... Steamboat & Savage for the IC title at WM III is still the best in my book Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brocklock 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2004 1. Austin/Rock - X-7 2. Bret/Owen - WM10 3. Austin/Bret - WM13 4. Macho/Flair - WM8 5. Macho/Steamboat - WM3 6. Macho/Warrior - WM7 7. Razor/HBK - WM10 8. Hardys/Dudleys/E&C - WM16 9. Brock/Angle - WM X-9 10. Benoit/Angle - WM X-7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted February 27, 2004 1. Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin (WM13) 2. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (WMX) 3. Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage (WMIII) 4. The Rock vs. Steve Austin (WMX-7) 5. Razor Ramon vs. Shawn Michaels (WMX) 6. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. Bret Hart (WMVIII) 7. Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair (WMVIII) 8. Randy Savage vs. Ultimate Warrior (WMVII) 9. Brock Lesner vs. Kurt Angle (WM X-9) 10. The Rock vs. Steve Austin (WMXV) 11. TLC (WM2000) 12. Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels (WMXIX) 13. Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit (WMX-7) 14. Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan (WMV) 15. The British Bulldogs vs. The Dream Team (WM2) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest krazykat72 Report post Posted February 27, 2004 1. Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon Ladder Match WM X 2. Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart Submissions WM XIII 3. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart WM X 4. Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair WM VIII 5. Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat WM III 6. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho WM XIX 7. Rock vs. Steve Austin WM XVII 8. Randy Savage vs. Ultimate Warrior WM VII 9. Bret Hart vs. Roddy Piper WM VIII 10. Shawn Michaels vs. Diesel WM XI Paul Jacobi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2004 1. Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin, XIII 2. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart, X 3. Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat, III 4. The Rock vs. Steve Austin, XVII 5. Razor Ramon vs. Shawn Michaels, X 6. Randy Savage vs. Ultimate Warrior, VII 7. Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage, VIII 8. Dudleys vs. Edge & Christian vs. Hardys, XVI 9. Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan, V 10. Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle, XVII Share this post Link to post Share on other sites