HHH going over at Wrestlemania again

[cabbageboy 0]

I wouldn't be shocked if Benoit doesn't win, and to be honest his reception on Raw has been a bit lukewarm. It's just that the way he left SMDN just doesn't make any sense to the average fan. There's no logic behind why he left, nor is there any explanation for it. I think it is really hurting his heat on Raw.

 

As far as HHH/Edge goes, I dunno about it. Can't really see Edge getting a title shot immediately after being gone so long, so let's hope it's non title.

[NoCalMike 0]

if Benoit does not win the title at WM, then what was the point of him jumping to RAW and rushing into a program with HHH, further more if HHH is done working with him after WM, there goes Benoit's credibility.....Methinks he would have been better off on Smackdown feuding with a newly crowned Eddie.

[cbacon 0]

He dosen't look comfortable mic, so they should really do some pre taped vingettes to get his story/character over. A desire video would be nice. And if they're really serious about pushing the guy, a decently designed t-shirt wouldn't hurt.

[2GOLD 0]

Are you sure you're in the right folder? This must've been meant for TNA or Puro one, you just couldn't be talking about the same WWE I'm thinking of.

 

But this is MANIA! The 20th Mania at that!

No way does Vince allow Triple H to retain the title at Mania 20.

 

And no way does this company hype the struggle of Benoit after having him change shows, having him go from #1 in the Rumble to winning it and then have him in Wrestlemania in the "chance he has been waiting for" and have him lose. They just CAN'T. They are not this stupid, I refuse to believe they are this stupid.

 

Benoit has to and will get the title at Mania. It's the only way it can end.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

Are you sure you're in the right folder? This must've been meant for TNA or Puro one, you just couldn't be talking about the same WWE I'm thinking of.

 

But this is MANIA! The 20th Mania at that!

No way does Vince allow Triple H to retain the title at Mania 20.

 

And no way does this company hype the struggle of Benoit after having him change shows, having him go from #1 in the Rumble to winning it and then have him in Wrestlemania in the "chance he has been waiting for" and have him lose. They just CAN'T. They are not this stupid, I refuse to believe they are this stupid.

 

Benoit has to and will get the title at Mania. It's the only way it can end.

Or have him lose to HHH.

[Guest Trivia247]

I think what throws people is that because Eddy won, maybe there is a trend that says Benoit will win.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

To be perfectly honest with you all, after the way Benoit has acted and been recieved since arriving on RAW...I'm really not too keen on him winning the belt.

 

I'd much prefer Shawn to go over, myself.

 

UYI

[Guest Eric the Eagle]

Note: It doesn't say anywhere that HHH's feud with Edge would be for the title.

 

If they don't continue the three-way feud past WM, and HHH loses the title, he would need something to do while waiting to take it back, right?

[Use Your Illusion 0]

- After and even before last night, many wrestlers in the back are said to be pretty angry with the way Chris Benoit has been pushed on Raw.

 

The feeling among many is that Vince McMahon is being to easily influenced by those in his support staff, which includes what other wrestlers having started calling the “new Clique” of HHH, Shawn Michaels and Stephanie McMahon. It was HHH, Shawn and Stephanie who suggested Benoit lose to Michaels last night on RAW. Many other wrestlers are also saying HHH, Michaels and Stephanie stick together and are firmly in control of their positions in the company.

 

There is no doubt among any of the other wrestlers as well that Michaels has been somewhat of a hypocritial person lately as he pushes his religious beliefs, yet he at the same time is obviously going behind people's backs, since he sits in on agent’s and production meetings and has alot of backstage influence.

 

While all of this is happening, Benoit has told fellow Raw wrestlers who are angry that, "The office wants me to be behind the 8-ball so my climb to Mania is an uphill climb." The WWE has him booked as the underdog.

 

After hearing Benoit say this, many wrestlers mentioned the fact that HHH buried Booker and RVD in the past two years in the exact same way, by making them challenge from "behind the 8-ball" and from the sounds of things, he is now going to do the same to Benoit.

 

With all of this said, the talent is very angry over the fact of how bad the politics are, especially with HHH, Shawn, and Stephanie's influence on Vince McMahon.

 

Many feel that the way Benoit has been booked is now ridiculous. The feeling is that at first, it was an effective way to book him as an underdog to win the Royal Rumble. However, the problem is now they have kept that image attached to him, and made people believe that he’s not at HHH and HBK's level.

 

Credit: Dave Scherer @ PWinsider.com

[cbacon 0]

To be perfectly honest with you all, after the way Benoit has acted and been recieved since arriving on RAW...I'm really not too keen on him winning the belt.

 

I'd much prefer Shawn to go over, myself.

 

UYI

Why does Shawn's character want the title anyway? He came back from his back injury and won the World title proving he could still go yadda yadda. What would doing it again prove? It'd be a far cry from his WMXII win and the WWE should certainly be playing the emotional victory card for the end of the show...

[Guest Super Pissed Smark]

And no way does this company hype the struggle of Benoit after having him change shows, having him go from #1 in the Rumble to winning it and then have him in Wrestlemania in the "chance he has been waiting for" and have him lose. They just CAN'T. They are not this stupid, I refuse to believe they are this stupid.

 

Benoit has to and will get the title at Mania. It's the only way it can end.

I feel your pain, but I seem to remember a similar discussion last year where everyone just went on and on about how Booker T couldn't lose at WrestleMania. It just made no sense to have the racist white guy telling the black guy that he couldn't win because of his nappy hair and whatever, and then just have the black guy lose to the white guy. It just couldn't happen. It was offensive and would kill Booker T when he was on the verge of becoming a huge star. He just couldn't lose. They couldn't be that stupid.

 

So, we'll see, but I assure you they ARE that stupid. Stupider, even. You could take stupid and stack stupid on top of it, add some more stupid, pile stupid as high as the Earth's atmosphere will allow and Vince McMahon would still be able to climb to the top, and sit, proudly, on that big pile of stupid. I guarantee it.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

if Benoit does not win the title at WM, then what was the point of him jumping to RAW and rushing into a program with HHH, further more if HHH is done working with him after WM, there goes Benoit's credibility.....

 

The point wasn't even for Benoit to win the title at mania. He could have had that on Smackdown; it was "to be the best". He has already been pinned by Michaels, so credibility already gone.

 

Methinks he would have been better off on Smackdown feuding with a newly crowned Eddie.

 

Actually, me thought that Benoit beating Brock at Rumble and defending against Eddie (or Angle) at Mania would have been nice; but that was just me being kooky way back when.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

To be perfectly honest with you all, after the way Benoit has acted and been recieved since arriving on RAW...I'm really not too keen on him winning the belt.

 

I'd much prefer Shawn to go over, myself.

 

UYI

Why does Shawn's character want the title anyway? He came back from his back injury and won the World title proving he could still go yadda yadda. What would doing it again prove? It'd be a far cry from his WMXII win and the WWE should certainly be playing the emotional victory card for the end of the show...

Oh, I totally agree with you. From a character stand-point, Shawn has accomplished everything he set for himself upon his return, not to mention already having two shots at Triple H. Of course he was royally screwed out of his first 'win', but he had a perfectly fair opportunity to beat Helmsley at the Rumble and just couldn't get it done.

 

It's just the huge inner-HBK mark in me that wants to see this, but I know it isn't right for business.

 

UYI

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

To be perfectly honest with you all, after the way Benoit has acted and been recieved since arriving on RAW...I'm really not too keen on him winning the belt.

 

I'd much prefer Shawn to go over, myself.

 

I agree with how Benoit has acted, but in comparison to HBK Benoit has been received rather well. That match started with the fans going gaga for Shawn but they clearly booed the kip up spot as well as him superkicking Benoit the previous week. Benoit doesn't ellicit the SUPERSTAR pop (why would he? He's not presented as a superstar) but in-ring they get behind him more than anyone on RAW and with the exception of Eddie, more than anyone in the WWE.

[Guest hunger4unger]

I don't see what indicates that HHH is going over. Although the clever thing to do is to have HHH retain at Mania and have Benoit chasing into Backlash, which is in Edmonton.

[JoeDirt 0]

None of them will win it. Like WM2000, we'll get a last second fourth entrant to the match, who will end up winning. Who, you ask?

 

Kevin Nash, of course!

 

[Use Your Illusion 0]

How is that clever? WMXX is the ULTIMATE blow off show, why the fuck would you want to use it just to build the next PPV?

 

Counter, meet productive.

 

UYI

[Michrome 0]

I think Benoit has been recieved just fine. There was a big pop when he locked the crossface on in the opening segment, and the crowd was rooting for him by the end of the main event. If you kill a guy off because his pop isn't huge right away, you're going to miss out on a big chance. Besides, what's the point of putting the title on a guy that draws big pops live, but hasn't drawn a rating or buyrate since his return match?

[Guest Loss]

Calm down guys, Rajah reworded the story and took it in another direction. It was originally reported on the Torch website that HHH wanted to move away from a program with Benoit after Wrestlemania and work with Edge. The rest was ad-libbed by Rajah.

 

Neither the Observer nor the Torch, nor 1Wrestling or PWInsider for that matter, has reported that HHH is scheduled to retain the title. In fact, Meltzer just reported that current plans are for Benoit to win, but Bret not to be involved because it would overshadow Benoit's moment.

 

Just wanted to clear that up.

[2GOLD 0]

I think Benoit has been recieved just fine. There was a big pop when he locked the crossface on in the opening segment, and the crowd was rooting for him by the end of the main event. If you kill a guy off because his pop isn't huge right away, you're going to miss out on a big chance. Besides, what's the point of putting the title on a guy that draws big pops live, but hasn't drawn a rating or buyrate since his return match?

 

I don't know, what was the point of giving the title to Triple H?

 

I still say Benoit has to win at Mania or he's done. He's just done. The mild crediblity he has with the fans is ALL on him winning at Mania. If he cannot get it done in MSG at Wrestlemania 20 then they might as well ship him to mid-card cause they have just killed him.

 

All we need to completely piss off people is Stephanie McMahon to return at the side of Benoit for NO REASON other than she can.

[Guest PowerPB13]

Triple H and HBK will not win the title at Wrestlemania.

It just won't happen.

 

Crippler is going to win the title and then defend it against HBK in Edmonton. No way would this company be dumb enough to hype up "This is the chance for Benoit" and then have him lose again under any circumstance.

 

Chris wins over Trips then defends the title at Backlash.

 

I find them crazy but they can't be THIS stupid.

*SMACK*

 

They're so cute when they're young, naive, and stupid...but they grow up fast.

 

-Patrick

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

I'll believe it when one of the Big 3 confirm it.

 

I don't want to get my hopes up yet.

[2GOLD 0]

Triple H and HBK will not win the title at Wrestlemania.

It just won't happen.

 

Crippler is going to win the title and then defend it against HBK in Edmonton. No way would this company be dumb enough to hype up "This is the chance for Benoit" and then have him lose again under any circumstance.

 

Chris wins over Trips then defends the title at Backlash.

 

I find them crazy but they can't be THIS stupid.

*SMACK*

 

They're so cute when they're young, naive, and stupid...but they grow up fast.

 

-Patrick

 

In the words of Patrick Stewart as Professor Xavier

 

"I'm looking for hope."

[Guest PowerPB13]

Triple H and HBK will not win the title at Wrestlemania.

It just won't happen.

 

Crippler is going to win the title and then defend it against HBK in Edmonton. No way would this company be dumb enough to hype up "This is the chance for Benoit" and then have him lose again under any circumstance.

 

Chris wins over Trips then defends the title at Backlash.

 

I find them crazy but they can't be THIS stupid.

*SMACK*

 

They're so cute when they're young, naive, and stupid...but they grow up fast.

 

-Patrick

 

In the words of Patrick Stewart as Professor Xavier

 

"I'm looking for hope."

When Raw gives me a reason to hope, then I'll hope again.

 

Not now. Not as long as Triple H still remains.

 

-Patrick

[snuffbox 0]

Triple H and HBK will not win the title at Wrestlemania.

It just won't happen.

 

Crippler is going to win the title and then defend it against HBK in Edmonton. No way would this company be dumb enough to hype up "This is the chance for Benoit" and then have him lose again under any circumstance.

 

Chris wins over Trips then defends the title at Backlash.

 

I find them crazy but they can't be THIS stupid.

*SMACK*

 

They're so cute when they're young, naive, and stupid...but they grow up fast.

 

-Patrick

 

In the words of Patrick Stewart as Professor Xavier

 

"I'm looking for hope."

When Raw gives me a reason to hope, then I'll hope again.

 

Not now. Not as long as Triple H still remains.

 

-Patrick

Youve been missing some pretty good Raws lately. Ive given it a chance the last few weeks after HHH-HBK and hearing about the Rumble. The crowds have been into it and the wrestling has been more than decent.

[Guest PowerPB13]

Oh, I've been watching Raw...which I attribute to some form of sadomasochism.

 

-Patrick

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Why watch then? So you have something to be bitter about?

 

Eh.

 

UYI

[Guest Regal Fan]

After RAW last night, Maybe they're building the triple threat match as - Benoit can't beat HBK. And then when he finally does beat HBK at Mania everyone is happy even HHH-[Especially] when he doesnt have to be the man that gets pinned or shagged by the Crossface.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Calm down guys, Rajah reworded the story and took it in another direction. It was originally reported on the Torch website that HHH wanted to move away from a program with Benoit after Wrestlemania and work with Edge. The rest was ad-libbed by Rajah.

 

Neither the Observer nor the Torch, nor 1Wrestling or PWInsider for that matter, has reported that HHH is scheduled to retain the title. In fact, Meltzer just reported that current plans are for Benoit to win, but Bret not to be involved because it would overshadow Benoit's moment.

 

Just wanted to clear that up.

Thank you for being smarter than the sheep...I mean everyone else.

[Guest Deebo]

I love how everyone questions anything from Meltzer, but believes fucking RAJAHWWF??