NoCalMike Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Well it would certainly make sense, however I have to ask, how will he assemble his roster? Will ECW be looked at as a "renegade" roster or just a third roster? I really hope Heyman can get a decent roster, not meaning stars, just workers, because he can book pretty damn good.
Guest Brian Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Renegades and new guys. Those that have been forgotten, some who are attracted to it because they don't like who they're working under, and a bunch of fresh faces. Paul London.
Lil' Bitch Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Renegades and new guys. Those that have been forgotten, some who are attracted to it because they don't like who they're working under, and a bunch of fresh faces. Paul London. I can't imagine Paul London being extreme though.
ChrisMWaters Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Renegades and new guys. Those that have been forgotten, some who are attracted to it because they don't like who they're working under, and a bunch of fresh faces. Paul London. I can't imagine Paul London being extreme though. Paul London is to New ECW what Jerry Lynn was to Old ECW.
Michrome Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 You clearly didn't see him pull ***1/2 out of Michael Shane in a sick brawl.
NoCalMike Posted March 23, 2004 Author Report Posted March 23, 2004 Well we could compile our own list here of who we think would be good. I would love for RVD to go with Heyman, but RVD is in that unique spot/status in WWE, where he is too popular not to have on the big shows, however he will never get pushed so he is screwed either way. Add to that, the fact that ECW + Heyman + RVD, could eventually grow on people over time and even draw in decent ratings. Now depending on whether Vince wants ECW to be a C-brand show, or if he doesn't mind drawing attention away from Raw/Smackdown. Time will tell.
Guest Brian Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 He doesn't need to be. I don't think they should rush into the extreme aspect of it. Make it novelty. Base the shows mainly on wrestling and getting these guys over. Give them the mic on the way to the ring. Start small even, with ten, twelve guys or so and build slowly. It'll actually probably help to prevent a provocation between brands.
geniusMoment Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Has RVD even signed a new deal yet? What if RVD just leaves in 2 months?
JoeDirt Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 1) RVD 2) Bubba Ray Dudley 3) D-Von Dudley 4) Spike Dudley 5) Tajiri 6) Rhyno 7) Nunzio (Little Guido) 8) Al Snow 9) Lance Storm 10) Steven Richards 11) Tommy Dreamer Then you could add: 12) Matt Morgan 13) Jon Heidenreich (Might as well do something with him) 14) Paul London 15) Nick Dinsmore 16) Johnny Jeter 17) Nova Add 4-5 more guys and you're good to go. Not the best roster or anything, but it could be fun...maybe...
justcoz Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 They only need a small roster with a one hour time slot each week. You can have big Smackdown or Raw ECW names like RVD, The Dudley's or Rhyno make one shot appearances just for ratings pops here and there. No full time commitment is needed from them. Underutilized WWE names: Paul London, Steven Richards, Lance Storm, Damaja, Tommy Dreamer, Jamie Noble, Rico OVW Guys: Johnny Jeter, Nick Dinsmore, Nova, Chris Cage Indie Raids: CM Punk, Matt Stryker, Xavier, American Dragon, Shark Boy, Jimmy Rave, try to get Lo Ki if there isn't a conflict with Zero One as I'm sure there would be for Spanky too who would have been perfect. Teddy Hart would be gold for an ECW comeback. Returning stars: Jeff Hardy ECW legends: cut Sabu his break, yes he's battered but it's ECW. Eye Candy: Dawn Marie, Lita, Jackie Gayda Announcers: Josh Matthews (if Joey Styles isn't possible) and Paul Heyman Ring Announcer: Joel Gertner Listen to the Pittsburgh music scene on Live 365
NoCalMike Posted March 23, 2004 Author Report Posted March 23, 2004 They only need a small roster with a one hour time slot each week. You can have big Smackdown or Raw ECW names like RVD, The Dudley's or Rhyno make one shot appearances just for ratings pops here and there. No full time commitment is needed from them. Underutilized WWE names: Paul London, Steven Richards, Lance Storm, Damaja, Tommy Dreamer, Jamie Noble, Rico OVW Guys: Johnny Jeter, Nick Dinsmore, Nova, Chris Cage Indie Raids: CM Punk, Matt Stryker, Xavier, American Dragon, Shark Boy, Jimmy Rave, try to get Lo Ki if there isn't a conflict with Zero One as I'm sure there would be for Spanky too who would have been perfect. Teddy Hart would be gold for an ECW comeback. Returning stars: Jeff Hardy ECW legends: cut Sabu his break, yes he's battered but it's ECW. Eye Candy: Dawn Marie, Lita, Jackie Gayda Announcers: Josh Matthews (if Joey Styles isn't possible) and Paul Heyman Ring Announcer: Joel Gertner Listen to the Pittsburgh music scene on Live 365 Oh how I miss Gertner......
Ultra Violence Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 I can see Bradshaw going there after Heyman's "I've always adrimed you Bradshaw" speech on last week's Smackdown
Guest JMA Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 WWE could always raid ROH for talent if this new ECW ever gets off the ground. I'm guessing a lot of guys there may be having reservations about staying. CM Punk in particular would be a great addition to the new ECW.
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 While some of the Ring of Honour guys are feeling rather awkard, a lot still have faith, and are staying with the promotion.
Michrome Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Boy how they'd fuck that up. I bet they'd have Punk be straight edge against fast food or something.
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 You can have big Smackdown or Raw ECW names like RVD, The Dudley's or Rhyno make one shot appearances just for ratings pops here and there. None of these guys have meant ratings for awhile, and I fail to see how this brand will be anything ratings-wise when it's in a terrible timeslot. When ECW was ECW, and on Friday nights, their ratings never got off the ground no matter what they did, so I don't see how an imitator under another company's name will do better. This is all assuming, of course, that this new brand will even resemble the old ECW. The chances of that happening (and satisfying those that are wanting it) are rather slim, considering all factors. The talent raids on Smackdown over the last several months have made it pretty clear that RAW is not to be overshadowed, and that's not going to change anytime soon. Smackdown is also a higher priority, as it should be. There seems to be just a lot of wishful thinking going on, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.... gotta have faith sometimes I suppose.
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Unless something was announced on Raw, which I doubt, is there any confirmation of this "new Brand"?
Guest Corino 1000 Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 "Eye Candy: Dawn Marie, Lita, Jackie Gayda" Lita ? WTF!
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Lita's not bad. Not great, either.
Guest Corino 1000 Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 According to what she used to be she's f**king ugly.
Guest Markingout Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 She could be good with proper make up. For the most part she is disgusting though. As for indy raids, how many guys would they bring in for a second brand company that may not even suceed? Really, the WWE should fix all there problems before they worry about a new brand.
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 We could have magic or a train wreck - or both. Vince McMahon wants to jump in head-first. And nobody's going to stop him.
2GOLD Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 If the ECW brand was started, it will just be the people who wrestle on Heat and Velocity alot Matt Hardy, Val Venis, Steven Richards, Paul London, Tommy Dreamer, Dragon, Tijaria, Billy Gunn and guys like that. Toss in Lita and a few more women wrestlers, possibly Molly and you'd have a general idea how Vince will go with it. Nothing changes, they just come out to a "Ecw" theme and wrestle on the late night programs like always.
Spaceman Spiff Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Renegades and new guys. Those that have been forgotten, some who are attracted to it because they don't like who they're working under, and a bunch of fresh faces. Paul London. I can't imagine Paul London being extreme though. That's OK, I can't imagine the new ECW being extreme, either. Sabu? No fucking way.
humongous2002 Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Like i said before WWE should leave ECW alone, everybody knows that Vince is going to do a half-ass job with it just for a quick buck.
Guest OSIcon Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Ths smarter thing to do with Heymen now that he "quit" would be to have him come back in a managerial role and lead a big heel group. That's pretty much how the Dangerous Alliance started in the first place. He was fired as an annoncer so he came up as a manager and sought to gain his revenge by reaking havoc on WCW with his group. You just have Heymen return, saying there is nowhere else he can go. It looks like he is a defeated man and Bischoff won, but then he revelas his group (or at least the start of it). RAW could use some heels and as long as Triple H stays on Smackdown (which probably won't happen. Stephanie will be named GM and trade him back to RAW). Either way, I think it is an efficient use of Heymen . Bringing back ECW as its own brand would be useless. The only time that a WWE-owned company could have possibly made it has its own "brand" would have been WCW right when it was bought out. If the cast of characters is kept the same in WCW and they go out of their way to give it a WCW-feel, chances are they wouldn't have lost all those fans that seeminly stopped watching on Mondays when WCW went under. Right now though, both companies (ECW and WCW) are so far gone that it is useless. Brinring back now would just be the "WWE version of ECW" instead of just a continuation of the real ECW, which is what its fan want/
AndrewTS Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Ths smarter thing to do with Heymen now that he "quit" would be to have him come back in a managerial role and lead a big heel group. That's probably what the "new ECW" will be. A big heel group. The logo will probably be black and white and look like this: eCw
Nevermortal Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 About the indy raids: Some of the ROH talent is signed to TNA contracts which prohibits them from signing with Vince; although I'm not sure of the length of the contracts.
1234-5678 Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 ECW legends: cut Sabu his break, yes he's battered but it's ECW. If you bring Sabu in, you gotta throw Raven, Sandman and Jerry Lynn a bone.
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