So what do YOU THINK......

[NoCalMike 0]

I have been listening to the post game show and as expected, some fans have pushed the panic button and want a house cleaning, others want small changes.

 

What do YOU THINK should be done?

 

For me personally, I think if Webber can come back at 100% next year, and with B. Jackson returning, I think the current Kings roster(give or take a few "end of benchers") should get ONE MORE CHANCE in 2005, to show they can win it all. If not, then they should house clean, but I think it would be unfair to do that this offseason, since the Kings were not playing at full strength, and still managed to play a tight series with the #1 seed.

[Guest Mindless_Aggression]

Got to get deeper. They absolutely MUST get someone who is willing to defend his ass off outside of Doug Christie and Brad Miller(And by the way, I ain't saying Brad is a good defender but he busts his ass trying to stop people he can't even hope to contain).

 

One more defender, one more banger inside. Miller is the only one who hits the boards hard. They've got all the scoring in the world, they just need a few more hard nosed guys. They really shoulda tried to get Mark Madsen when he was free IMO. He's perfect. He doesn't need shots, he just goes out there and kills himself for as long as he's allowed to be on the floor.

[AlwaysPissedOff 0]

This might be unpopular and all, but I think it's high-time they say good-bye to Vlade. I mean, he's barely played in either series this year because the younger, more athletic guys tend to bust on him whenever they get the chance. They really do need another big man who can bang and work hard along with Miller since Webber is starting to get really suspect with the injuries and won't get dirty for rebounds even before the knee injury last year.

 

Defense is a must in the West and yes, I know they were successful without a good-to-great defense, but when teams slow the pace down and go into their offense, you got have some hard-nosed mofos.

[Guest Crazy Dan]

There are some things I think the Kings need to have happen in order for them to keep their window open:

 

The Kings need to bring in a bruiser who rebounds and plays defense. Someone who will guard Shaq if needed and do it with out any fear. That is always something I thought the Kings have been missing. And this player can maybe get you a couple of points, but his main goal is to rebound and play defense. A player who will do the dirty work.

 

Webber needs to stay healthy. I think that he needs to go on full rehab assignment, and get a trainer who will keep him healthy all season. And the trainer will be able to keep Webber's knees in shape so that when Webber goes to the rack, he dunks it, instead of trying to this layup/finesse. But I have a feeling that Webber might not be the player to take the Kings to the promise land, so maybe it is time to maybe see if the Kings can find a new PF, who has no problem taking it to the hole. And someone really needs to tell him to stop taking too many jump shots. But a healthy Webber who can play with the Kings all season, means that the Kings won't have to worry about their chemestry getting messed up, which really ended up hurting the Kings the most.

 

Bobby Jackson needs to make a full recovery from his ab injury. If he is healthy, the Kings then have two point guards they can throw at you, both who are quick, and both who are capable of driving other teams nuts. And Bobby is the best bench player in the NBA. A player who could start on many teams. As we saw in the playoffs, he was badly missed. Sorry Anthony Peeler, but you just did not cut it.

 

I would like to see Songalia be given more playing time, as he shown that he actually has some skills, and would make a great big man to come off the bench. He was rookie who showed a lot of promise, and he deserves to be given a chance to play more. And I really do think that Gerald Wallace has the makings of being a very good player, so I hope the Kings finally begin to develope this guy and give him a chance to show that he has some skills.

 

And I agree, too many injuries this year really hindered the Kings this year. So I think the team they have now should be kept intact for one more season. Miller proved to be a great fit, but I would like to see him post up more and utilize his passing skills. I want Webber to be fully healthy, and start taking it to the hole. And as he is doing that, work on his damn free throws, so that he does not become a liability on the line. I think the Kings need to get back to the ball movement that made so entertaining in the past. I also would like Doug Christie work on his offense more (I know he is known as more as defensive minded player, but when he was on Toranto, he was their leading scorer). But, I do think the Kings should look at the free agent market of course. And if there are any stars they might be able to pick up, they should go for it. I have also heard that Vlade is seriously considering retiring, so they should be looking for a Center, which if this happens, then Miller needs to start posting up more. And that would be a whole other reason to start playing Songalia more.

 

But mainly, the Kings just need to stay healthy. But who knows, I do see that some changes are on the horizon, it just a matter of what Geof Peatrie thinks will be the best option for the Kings. Thankfully the Kings have great owners, so it won't be like every player gets let go or something like that. Will be an interesting off season for sure. And don't the Kings have a first round pick comming to them from Atlanta? Remember when they traded their pick (Dan Dikaua to the Hawks) a few years back? What is the status of that pick, when do they get the pick the traded for?

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

They need a big gangly foreigner down low to take up space and draw attention from their shooters.

[Ripper 0]

Move Vlade, and get heathly.

 

That is the only reason they aren't winning it this year.

 

THey have all the tools, just need to get healthy.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Fire Rick Adelman. Most overrated coach not named "Don Nelson".

[C Dubya 04 0]

^^

 

Watching Adelman try to coach last night was hilarious. The guy has no clue, and just stands there with his arms crossed and a dumb look on his face.

 

I think that the Kings need to make some big changes to this team. Everyone is saying that C Webb needs to stay healthy and they'll be fine, but that just doesn't happen. They need another weapon.

[Ripper 0]

^^

 

Watching Adelman try to coach last night was hilarious. The guy has no clue, and just stands there with his arms crossed and a dumb look on his face.

 

I think that the Kings need to make some big changes to this team. Everyone is saying that C Webb needs to stay healthy and they'll be fine, but that just doesn't happen. They need another weapon.

I don't care about stay...just get.

 

He shouldn't have come back so early and that cost him. But he wanted to help his team.

 

You still have to admire how the guy played on one leg this year.

[razazteca 0]

Get rid of Webber and Jackson for some players who are not injure prone. Maybe make a trade with the Suns for Stoudimare & Marion.

[Crimson Platypus 0]

Get rid of Webber if they ever want to win anything. He has never won anything and never will. He simply doesn't have what it takes to step it up in the big games.

[Guest Crazy Dan]

Get rid of Webber and Jackson for some players who are not injure prone. Maybe make a trade with the Suns for Stoudimare & Marion.

I don't think the Suns would be willing to give up those two. Being that Stoudimare is so young and has yet to hit his full potential. He appears to be the player the Suns are going to build their franchise around. Along with Marion, who also is still growing as a player.

 

I am not sure who the Kings could get for Webber. The problem is that he has such a huge contract, that it is going to be hard for the Kings to find someone willing to take the big a contract, well maybe the Mavricks, but the only players that I would want the Kings to get from them would be Derk, Finley, and Najera (he is the type of player I was describing earlier, does the dirty work, rebounds, has no fear in guarding anyone). Other than that, what Power Forward do you think the Kings could get that would help them take it to the next level?

 

Actually, I would love if they could get Ben Wallace. Defensive minded, rebounds like a mo'fo, and blocks shots like there is no tomorrow. And this would allow Peja to become the focal point of the offense, like he was before Webber came back. Anyone else have any suggestions?

[NoCalMike 0]

The backlash by the Kings #1 announcer against Bobby Jackson was incredible. He was implicating that Bobby Jackson lied to his face on the air about playing in game 7, and basically accused him of protecting himself for the summer and free agency. If that is so, they Kings should find a way to get rid of his ass, you have to show commitment to your team, especially when it is a do or die game.

[Guest Mindless_Aggression]

A strained abdominal muscle is extremely bad. That can become a tear very easily and a torn ab is what put Shaq out a few years back for like half of the season. I can't blame Jackson for not wanting to go.

[Guest Redhawk]

The Kings need a banger, but what will adding a banger do to their offense? Brad Miller is the perfect type of guy that they need one more of: he can bang, but he's also skilled enough offensively to fit within that system they have and not clunk it up. How many players are going to be available who are like that? Ben Wallace might be a beast on defense, but could he maintain that Kings-style flow on offense? Honestly, when I think of big men who can bang and fulfill a Divac-Miller type of role on offense (good passing, good jumper, etc.) the one guy that keeps coming up is Derrick Coleman.

[NoCalMike 0]

The Kings need a banger, but what will adding a banger do to their offense? Brad Miller is the perfect type of guy that they need one more of: he can bang, but he's also skilled enough offensively to fit within that system they have and not clunk it up. How many players are going to be available who are like that? Ben Wallace might be a beast on defense, but could he maintain that Kings-style flow on offense? Honestly, when I think of big men who can bang and fulfill a Divac-Miller type of role on offense (good passing, good jumper, etc.) the one guy that keeps coming up is Derrick Coleman.

well this is also assuming that Adelman and the coaching staff all stay in tact. If not, then it is a crap shoot, of what direction they will be going in. Personally I don't have a problem with their core, but they should reinvest that made their 2003 squad a really good team, like Jimmy Jackson & Keon Clark. While they weren't world beaters, they brought toughness to the Kings that was sorely missed this season.

[Steviekick 0]

When they are all healthy, the Kings are REALLY formidable. They don't need much. I do think they need a new coach, that's usually the easiest quick fix. They have a lot of good shooters, so I think Phil Jackson could get his triangle going. Adleman's not a bad coach; I actually like him a lot. But unfortunately, someone has to take he blame and coach's wind up being the quickest and easiest to change.

 

As far as players, I say resign Vlade as a last resort and look for someone who can play the role of a defending PF/C for 20-30 minutes. Make Brad Miller the starting C. And I'm not saying that they should flat out ditch Chris Weber, but definitely ue him as trade bait.

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

Many Kings Fans are talking about scrapping the core, but I think that the core (Webber, Bibby, Stojakovic, Jackson, Miller) deserve one more shot together before trying to make wholesale changes.

 

I think that perhaps the answer could lie in free agency; one of the Kings' biggest problems was the lack of a shot blocker, and so I think that Petrie should make a serious bid for Chris Andersen. He's an energy player, and the type of guy that the Kings really need from their bench rotation.

 

I also think that Petrie should make a run at either Emanuel Ginobili or Marquis Daniels. If Petrie can land Andersen and either Ginobili or Daniels, I could also see trading Peja in a package to get a superstar-calibur (McGrady being the most prominent rumor; Stojakovic/Christie for McGrady?) player.

[NoCalMike 0]

My biggest problem with Adelman is that he doesn't make adjustments. The Kings are a jump shooting team and they live & die by their jumpshots. Maybe it will change if Webber can come back at 100% next season, because his ability to take the inside will bring back the open looks that were missing in the playoffs, but Petrie definately needs to look for FAs that can make the Kings offense more diverse.

[Dangerous A 0]

In defense of Adelman, he did have these depleted Kings in a position to tie and/or win a game 7 on the road. His players didn't do little things like hit free throws and make layups. Adelman can't shoot the ball for them, all he can do is draw up plays to get them there.

 

The only players I'd mark as untouchable on their roster right now are Bibby, Miller, and Songaila with Stojakovic right on the outskirts. The rest of them in my opinion are fair game for the market. The Kings would be fools to resign Divac. While Christie had the best game last night of any of the Kings, at 35, I am not sure he can duplicate what he's done the last few years. They are probrably not going to get a deal for Webber because no one is going to take a chance on a guy with a hefty contract and a bum knee. One possible way out of the Webber deal is to leave him unprotected when the expansion draft comes around, but that would fuck up player/personnel relationships and things would be even worse if the Bobcats decided not to take him. (which I doubt, but you never know) Stojakovic is the guy you will probrably get some value out of, but I am not sure if it's time to give up on him yet. My big beef with him is he disappears in the playoffs when teams can lock in on him and he can't create his own shot off the dribble to get defenders in foul trouble.

 

The Kings would also do themselves a favor and get more athletic in the frontcourt. Their top frontcourt players (Divac, Webber, Stojakovic, Miller) are not particularly athletic and this is a big reason why the Kings get hurt defensively and on the boards. I would have no qualms dealing Peja for the first pick in the draft to pick up Emeka Okafor...oh wait....silly Kings fan in me, I'm dreaming up scenarios again.

 

For real though, Geoff Petrie is a damn good GM and I trust in whatever off season moves he makes for our team. I just hope he does make a move or two though. The Kings need a change. Not an overly dramatic change, but something. Remember, one of the definitions of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Well, as a Kings fan, I'm tired of going insane and something needs to be done. Trust in Petrie, Kings Fans!!!

[2GOLD 0]

Forget the Kings, they need some bench players and some guys who have HEART in game sevens but otherwise they are fine.

 

Now then, what about the New Jersey Nets?? They are going backwards or aren't moving forward at all.

[Ripper 0]

Forget the Kings, they need some bench players and some guys who have HEART in game sevens but otherwise they are fine.

 

Now then, what about the New Jersey Nets?? They are going backwards or aren't moving forward at all.

Once again, the guy that makes the team go LIMPED into game 7 with the Pistons(who aren't pushovers) and now everyone is saying kill the team.

 

Get them bastards a Center who can rebound and defend and can catch the ball, a shooter off the bench and you are okay.

[Guest Coffey]

The Kings? time for a new coach. They need to get healthy and start learning to play in a new direction. They have the talent. They just need everything else. Hopefully they can develop a better defense too. Scoring 130 points a game is great unless your opponents score 131. Look at the Mavericks. The Kings have Webber (whom no one else will want because of all the baggage that comes with him) and he's still a damn good ball player, but he needs to get healthy. He's always lacked in big games too. They have Brad Miller backing up Vlade Divac. Neither center can compete with Shaq, but they fit into the way Sac plays ball well. Bibby, Christie, Peja...the Kings have the tools. They just need someone that can tell them how to use them, and then execute what they've been told.

 

The Nets need a fucking coach with some playoff experience. Someone that doesn't look like he's twelve years old. They need some half court basketball. If they can't run, they lose. When they have to play against a team with defense, or a team that can get back quick, they lose. The Pistons blew them the fuck out in game seven. It was pitiful. Kenyon Martin isn't that good of a player, but he's an athelete. In this league, that goes a long way. Richard Jefferson will develop better. Kidd is a great leader, but he's getting older. He needs to either develop more of an offensive game (which isn't going to happen, because that's not his game) or find someone that he can have faith in when passing the ball. Someone else needs to step up. Kerry Kittles, Kenyon Martin, Richard Jefferson, whomever. He just needs someone on offense.

[Ripper 0]

Get rid of Webber if they ever want to win anything. He has never won anything and never will. He simply doesn't have what it takes to step it up in the big games.

Except when he does it every year?

 

I get tired of the Webber hate. Thats like saying "get rid of stockton(when he was playing) this guy never has won anything and never will). Or saying get rid of Jordan in 89 because he never had won a thing.

[Guest Coffey]

The difference is that Stockton and Webber didn't make mistakes or play poorly in big game situations. Webber, just this year alone, in game seven missed a layup, two crucial free throws and a game tying three pointer. He couldn't have been more of a disappointment unless he tried to call another time-out when they didn't have any.

 

Stockton still got his assists in his losses. Jordon still got his points in his losses. It's still a team game, and when the team puts themselves on your back, and you trip, it's your fault.

 

Webber does it ever year? Are you fucking nuts? He does what? Plays hurt? Misses half the season? Has to go to court? Fucks up big in a game seven multiple times?

[AlwaysPissedOff 0]

I don't see how misisng the three in Game 7 reflects on Webber since he rarely, if ever, shoots from that far out. Plus, the shot looked like it was going it(hell, I thought it DID go in) and rimmed out. You can't blame that on him or anyone else that's forced to take a shot like that from an area far outside their comfort zone.

 

As for Adleman, I don't see why he should be fired when it was the players who fouled up this series by bricking so many FTs like Peja, who used to be Mr. Automatic.

 

When the players foul up down the stretch, that should go on THEM, not the coach.

[Guest Redhawk]

Anyone as talented as Webber CAN win, but Webber himself isn't the "put it on my shoulders, guys, I'll carry us" type of player who will be called a "winner."

 

Jordan, Magic, Kobe, Duncan....even Iverson are guys who, sure, don't ALWAYS hit the game-winner, but they step up when their team needs them and for stretched can take over any game. That's not Webber. Sometimes he looks like he doesn't even want the ball in crunch time.

 

Again, he's a good player, and I'm not gonna say he can't win a title, but he's just not a franchise player.