According to Meltzer.....

[Promoter 0]

I also think Survivor Series was the better timing for this. However, the comparisons with Angle's first world title win are correct according to Y2Jerk. The wwe might go the full monty with this Orton title reign and have him pushed to the moon and hold the strap until WM 21. If they really want to make this guy a legend killer I would have him go over Triple H at either Survivor Series or Royal Rumble and then DEFEND against The Rock in Los Angeles. By that time he would have tied his own accomplishment of being a champ for 7 months. I guess we all know that isn't going to happen. Trips will want his big match to happen at Mania although I think they could so something else with Triple H that won't be so predictable and that is actually leave raw for smackdown and put HHH in the wwe title division. It sure as hell would help their cause.

[Guest bigdiswrestling]

Well...

 

From the sources I heard...

 

Supposedly, Orton will go over Benoit. The Trips / Orton feud will be teased till Triple H takes the belt at Wrestlemania. I think Triple H might turn face.

 

They're planning Foley vs. Flair at Wrestlemania 21 too, but now Foley is having second thoughts, so who knows.

 

and yes, Triple H will face Eugene at Summerslam, with Regal interfiering possibly.

 

Thats all I know for now...

[Guest tangerine]

Oddly enough i am really completely indifferent to Randy Orton getting the Main event and I don't think anyone here really thinks it's a bad thing because let's face it, 3 months ago everyone thought we had Edge/HHH penciled in and personally speaking, Benoit/Orton is alot more appealing.

 

How can you justify a title shot? It's a tough issue really since he lost the title to Edge and lost the rematch although Edge cheated. They have no real beef aside from the fact Orton's an ally of Triple H. They could always do the cheap 4 Way Dance on Raw this weekend to determine who faces Benoit or Triple H.

 

Jericho, Orton, Edge and Kane. Orton finally beats Edge here and let the match go long (like 20-25. the problem would be it limits the show to about 20 more minutes of air time to cram in the diva segment and build the Le Rez/Tajiri and Rhyno program). Orton goes over clean pinning both Edge and Jericho.

 

Benoit beats Triple H 4-3 in the Ironman where Eugene makes his triumphant return beating down HHH drawing Benoit a DQ fall and is chased off by Batistia whomgets chased down by Edge

 

Gives us

 

Orton/Benoit

Triple H/Eugene

Batistia/Edge

 

kinda leaves Jericho out in the cold however. Unless they go with Kane/Jericho AGAIN...with shawn making his surprise return there.

[Guest Tjhe CyNick]

If they really want to make this guy a legend killer I would have him go over Triple H at either Survivor Series or Royal Rumble and then DEFEND against The Rock in Los Angeles. By that time he would have tied his own accomplishment of being a champ for 7 months. I guess we all know that isn't going to happen. Trips will want his big match to happen at Mania although I think they could so something else with Triple H that won't be so predictable and that is actually leave raw for smackdown and put HHH in the wwe title division. It sure as hell would help their cause.

That is one oft the best ideas Ive heard in a long time

[Guest Tjhe CyNick]

BTW, anyone e-mail Meltz about this?

[SuperJerk 0]

Times like this I wish they'd bring back King of the Ring.

[Open the Muggy Gate 0]

I wouldn't mind seeing Randy as champion. The WWE took a chance when they put the Undisputed title on Brock, but it paid off in the end. Putting it on Randy would be a risk, but risks need to be taken sometimes. I have a feeling this one will be good though.

 

Now Edge will probably end up fighting Ric Flair at Summerslam and HHH at the next RAW PPV.

[Dark Age 0]

But Brock is ALOT better than Randy. Randy isn't bad, but he's not that good either. Again, Brock had been around 5 months when he won the belt, so it's a different scenario. Brock and Randy came on the scene around the same time, and at this point (or prior to Brock leaving) Brock is/was way better in every department. Randy Orton will be BADLY exposed as champ. Unless they have him face Benoit and Jericho every night. Keeping it on Benoit for the rest of the year is the best option. Nothing has gone wrong so far, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[algrim 0]

Orton is not a bad choice. He just needs to do 10 min. restholds (christ).

[strummer 0]

even more from Keller:

 

 

-While the top two matches for Smackdown at Summerslam have been set for a while (Undertaker challenging JBL for the WWE Hvt. Title and Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero), the top Raw matches have been in limbo for weeks. After several scenarios were considered (such as Triple H vs. Chris Benoit with Eugene as special ref or Triple H vs. Benoit vs. Eugene in a three-way), they're now going with Benoit defending against Randy Orton with Triple H facing Eugene in a singles match. That could change between now and Monday, but by Raw on Monday they'll have to lock in the direction for the top storylines. When Triple H ripped on Eugene on Raw and when the Iron Man match was booked for this Monday's episode, that pretty much eliminated any chance of the three-way match or yet another Hunter vs. Benoit singles match. If they did the three-way match, they would have stretched out ambiguity with whether Eugene would side with Hunter or Benoit at the PPV. If they were going to go with Hunter vs. Benoit at Summerslam, the Iron Man format may have been saved for the PPV. So it's a virtual lock they're going with the other scenario

[megaadvice 0]

VERY intresting news about them expecting Orton to go over at Summerslam.

 

For people who think it is a bad idea, i just feel Orton (for the first time) has that oura (sp) as a champ, i felt it for the first time at the match at vengeance.

 

I think you have to look at it this way. What would you prefer HHH to win the belt for the 208838547th time or for a new guy to get the title. I certainly know what i want

[Hoff 0]

Jeezy peezy, I just typed a huge reply and I got an error message. Hmph. Anyway, I'd personally rather keep the belt off of Orton and let him do more in his career, because I think that makes the World Title win that much more meaningful. Look at guys like Bret, Shawn, Benoit, even H. They all did so much before winning the big one, and no one can deny they all had great careers and will be looked back on as legends. They could do that with Orton, too, if they just had some patience. Edge, too, although that's a whole other argument.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

I'd take HHH over Orton in a heartbeat. At least HHH is established as a ME guy, and has legit championship cred.

 

That's not to say I want HHH taking the belt this Monday, or even want him as champ in the 1st place, but between those 2 I'd take HHH.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Does it matter if HHH has the title or not? He's still the star of the show. I though the Benoit reign would have proven that who has the title doesn't matter as-long-as HHH is the focus of the show.

[The Amazing Rando 0]

But even after putting the title on Brock, he didn't seem to really live up to the championship until that Stretcher Match with the Big Show. Even if Orton wins, if he can hold his own in feuds with Benoit, Jericho, and HHH, and let everything end with him getting a true blue victory over Hunter himself in a ***1/2 (or so) match, it could take him to that plateau of "true Main Eventer"

[dpac 0]

Off the topic, who is that guy with Benoit and UT in your sig Strummer?

[Hoff 0]

But a guy WORKING to become a "true main eventer" shouldn't have the WORLD TITLE, should he? I'd think they'd want to wait until he made it to that level.

[algrim 0]

You don't know who's with Benoit and UT?

 

I'll give you a clue: HEY YO..

[strummer 0]

Off the topic, who is that guy with Benoit and UT in your sig Strummer?

Scott Hall

[dpac 0]

That is who I first thought, now i feel like a tard.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Brock Lesnar leading up to his reign, was about as equal with Randy Orton now. Randy might even be better.

 

Remember, Brock looked very green in the ring. And it looked like he wasn't ready to carry the title.

 

But Rock made him look like a million bucks at Summerslam.

 

Benoit could do the same for Orton.

[Guest tangerine]

Personally I feel that Orton at this point is much further along in his career then Brock was at this point in 2002.

 

Randy's character is much more established and for the most part Orton can carry his own on the stick(something brock couldn't and never could handle). What got Brock over the hump and in that "cred" role was going over three big names in 4 weeks (RVD, Hogan and Rock).

 

Can Orton reach that level of success? I don't see any reason why he couldn't. He certaintly has come a long way since the begining of the push and he has finally justified why he should have been pushed in the firstplace.

 

All in all i believe it's a better option then Triple H again. it breaks the Triple H to someone to Triple H chain.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

True, alot of Lesnar's sucess has to do with Paul Heyman. He got Lesnar over as the unstopable monster.

[Dark Age 0]

You're missing the point. Brock was 5 months into his WWE career when he got the belt. He was SUPPOSED to be green. Randy Orton is 2 1/2 years into his. Being 'as good as Brock when he won the title' isn't an accomplishment.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Randy wasn't given the push Brock did when he 1st came.

 

Randy earned it.

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! That being said, it's still at least 6 months too early, in my book. He has momentum for sure, but the Championship is supposed to be a crowning achievemnent, and he doesn't have enough experience under his belt to justify it yet. Sink or Swim I guess.

[Mole 0]

Nope, too early for Orton to have the title.

 

They should have kept the IC title on him for much longer and have him hold onto it for atleast a year, maybe more. The guy is only 23 years old and I don't see him as a Heavyweight Champion yet.

 

His wrestling skills aren't up to par yet, he still could use some more time getting over, and he needs another high profile feud.

[Guest Champ]

Do not forget the big HBK-Kane feud!

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

I dissagree with you all.

 

What does age have to do with it? Just because Randy Orton is 23, doesn't make him any less over.

 

Randy Orton is not perfect, everyone knows that. He still needs to improve in certain areas. But right now he is alot better then most wrestlers in the WWE. He does have charisma, he can cut a very good heel promo, and he can work a decent match(great match if given the right wrestler to carry him).

 

And like I said in the pervious post, it all depends on how Benoit makes him out to be in the match at Summerslam. Everyone was scared of the thought of Lesnar being World Champ, until The Rock made him look like a million bucks at Summerslam 02.

 

Benoit could do the excat same for Orton.

 

I personally would rather wait until Survivor Series to put the belt on Orton, but I personally wouldn't mind him holding the belt now. It could be alot worse. I'd rather Orton have it, then Edge.

[Guest jac52]

orton will lose to benoit at summerslam. HHH will regain the title at survivor series orton will win the rumble then take it off HHH at mania. VOILA.