LOST

[Stephen Joseph 0]

the island is a portal place, like the devil's or the bermuda triangle. but no alternate realities.

 

this was revealed awhile ago, but the numbers correspond to a made-up scientific theory about when mankind will destroy themselves (called the vinaboccia or something) numbers. Its in a cross-over book called Bad Twin, which has been shown on the show and published in real life.

 

anyways, dharma was trying to figure out ways to influence these numbers and thus alter fate.

[Atticus Chaos 0]

random thoughts

 

I doubt Kate is with Saywer anymore. Did you see how much make up she had on? I think she's someone's trophy wife now.

 

Speaking of Kate:is is possible she's free because the charges were dropped? Think about it: the Martial is dead, her mother (the only witness) is dead...would they have enough evidence to convict her?

 

What was the significance of Desmond finding out about Naomi and her lie? What can he do about it now anyway? It's far too late. Is he going to try to fight them when they show up?

 

Jack's ex wife is a bitch. He's the sole reason she can walk again, and she thanks him by cheating and giving him the cold shoulder when he obviously needs someone.

 

That beard is terrible.

[cbacon 0]

In regards to the Walt appearance, i'm pretty sure it was one of Jacob's manifestations, much like Jack's father on the island, the horse Kate sees, etc. Notice how only Locke could actually hear what "Walt" was saying as opposed to the backwards talk Shannon heard when she encountered "Walt".

[Jonathon 0]

I thought that Lindelof and Cuse stated that the numbers are meaningless.

[megaadvice 0]

The more I think about the episode the more I love it.

 

So many good things in it, didnt see the twist until half way through the kate/Jack convo. Not really that much more to add but random bits I loved, Charlie predending he was singing when the two lesbos saw him speaking to Desmond. Also Hurley in the van and the Sayid's neakbreaker.

 

Its guna be great to see who and who doesnt get rescued, I am sure Locke has made a run for it and I have a feeling that the Hurley/Saywer crew on the beach might not be rescued. We know Jack and Kate are, Desmond saw Claire and Arron get in a helicopter and seeing as Charlie has died this must happen otherwise what would be the point of Charlies death?

 

I think next season will be set on the island (I am sure that there will be quite a few left behind). I dont have a clue what format they will use for the people who get rescued? Will they show them in real Lost time (eg Dec 2004) will their points of view after leaving the island get shown in 2007 flashbacks? Who was dead in the coffin? ect ect. Loads of things to think about. I cant believe we have to wait 8 1/2 months.

[Mik 0]

You know, I was just thinking the other day that this thread was missing Stephen Joseph giving his opinions as facts...

[Guest Vitamin X]

I had a feeling that the flashforwards actually were going to take place in 2010, which is when the show was scheduled to end. It would also be a little bit closer for that kid in the hospital room (who DEFINITELY had to be Aaron, I mean just look at the kid, way too perfect casting for it not to be Claire's kid). Someone get me a screencap if you can, I've tried looking everywhere on the net and couldn't get it.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

It would have to be 2012 for Aaron to be 8 (the stated age of the kid). Also, reading another board, it was pointed out that the age of the woman was 40, which would rule out it being Claire.

[C Dubya 04 0]

I had a feeling that the flashforwards actually were going to take place in 2010, which is when the show was scheduled to end. It would also be a little bit closer for that kid in the hospital room (who DEFINITELY had to be Aaron, I mean just look at the kid, way too perfect casting for it not to be Claire's kid). Someone get me a screencap if you can, I've tried looking everywhere on the net and couldn't get it.

 

http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/

 

Here you go. This page is pretty good for caps.

[Mik 0]

I just watched it again. They show a closeup of the woman's face and I paused it. It's definitely not Claire, not even with any amount of makeup. It looked like Juliette's sister, to go along with what Ravenbomb said a few pages ago but I probably wouldn't have even considered that if I hadn't read it previously.

 

I think I'm ruling out Claire, though.

[In Credible 0]

The only thing that came to mind with The Dark Tower series of books relating to a newpaper clipping about a death was. Father Callahan was on the run from The Low Men, The Crimson King's Henchmen. They would leave all kinds of Lost Pet posters with descriptions of the father (to make other vampires aware of his presence).

 

The reason Father Callahan was on the run was because in Salem's Lot when he was made to drink the blood of the head vampire Barlow, he gained the ability to see vampires in the world. They would have a blue glow around them. Anyway Callahan became a slayer of sorts and killed several vampires in NEW YORK. He worked at a homeless shelter and began killing vampires. They got smarter and more aware of Callahan's doings and it got back to the lowmen.

 

When the heat got to be too much he made his way across country on the run. On his way he saw less and less of the signs and made his way to California. In California he read a newspaper on break at a hard labor job. He spotted an article that spoke of his good friend Rowan Macgruder (the man who ran the homeless shelter) who had been critically wounded by "The Hitler Brothers" two neo nazi killers that had been terrorizing New York.

 

It was actually a setup to bait Callahan into coming back to New York, which he did to visit his friend in the hospital just before his friend died.

 

That's all I can remember about a newspaper clipping from The Dark Tower books. It is in Callahan's story in Wolves Of The Calla.

[slimm44 0]

I had a feeling that the flashforwards actually were going to take place in 2010, which is when the show was scheduled to end. It would also be a little bit closer for that kid in the hospital room (who DEFINITELY had to be Aaron, I mean just look at the kid, way too perfect casting for it not to be Claire's kid). Someone get me a screencap if you can, I've tried looking everywhere on the net and couldn't get it.

 

The only wrench, besides the screen-cap, and the last name not being Claire's is that the flash-forward would have to be 7+ years ahead of the the rescue. Because the time-line in the show is a month a season (roughly)

[Gert T 0]

I think one other consideration is that this flash forward may not be the furthest point in the future of the series.

[iliketurtles 0]

Okay, I've got to get this out of my system as we've got 8 months to go. Here's some stuff I rethought about:

 

-Jack says to Kate: I'm sick of lying. Could they get rescued by the Hanso Foundation and have to made a "deal" with them that none of them were on Flight 815 and because the crash was staged back home, as Naomi said. They just seemingly fall back into reality without any notice. But notice that the doctor says "You were a hero two times over"...could this be a clue that maybe Jack and Kate (and whoever else) went against the "bad guys" and beat them and showed the world they were indeed survivors and revealed the big cover-up? Something tells me a majority of next season is the conflict between Losties and "Bad Guys."

 

-How is Kate seemingly back apart of society even though she was a threat before the 2004 crash? Kate said: I have to go, he's wondering where I am...is this Sawyer? Is this her Parole officer? Is this...someone else?

 

-No one questions Jack whatsoever during the flashback about his father being alive/dead.

 

-Three theories on the coffin: It's Ben's funeral. He eventually helps the Losties get back home and was telling the truth about the 'good guys' vs. 'bad guys'. Good guys being the Hostiles and the bad guys being the Hanso Foundation/Dhrama/Whidmore/whoever else. He's been on the island the majority of his whole life so not one person would go to his funeral. Jack went because Ben was apart of the island he's so desperate to get back too.

 

It's Michael's funeral. Apparently, people have made out the transcript of the article and have said that the guy was from New York, committed suicide, had a teenage son. Could Michael have gotten home and sent for help bringing the "bad guys"? Could Michael have changed his name to avoid the pressures of what happened to him while on the island, which eventually may have caused for him to hang himself? He murdered Ana and Libby, betrayed Jack/Kate/Hurley and Sawyer for the Others to save his son. That kind of guilt could lead him to take his own life, regardless of whether the Losties were rescued later with his help. Kate would also have a reason not to want to go to the funeral, whereas I can see Jack still going and feeling torn up about what happened, and because they had a relationship apart of the island for a majority of the time spent on it.

 

There's also a possibility this was a character we haven't even met yet.

 

-Is the Temple the place for the Others to hide on the Island? Is this where Locke is going with Albert and the hostiles? Mikalhi thought that the two lesbos in the Looking Glass were on "Assignment in Canada?" Ethan Rom connection? Could be recruiting new members? The Others were building a runway...could they be looking for a new way to go back and forth between the Island and the Outside World other than the sub?

 

 

 

I don't think the flash forwards we saw last night were in 2010, now thinking about it. I don't think that they were the "end of the series" either. Here's what I've come up with:

 

Season 4 is entire flashbacks. Continue telling the story of what happens on the island as they get "rescued" (this will be in real time to the viewer, but knowing in the back of our head we already saw the future it's a flashback...and I don't think this is as simple as just going on a ship and going home...there's definitely a story that's going on here), what happens when they get home in (in real time at the end of the season, but still considered to be flashbacks because of the Kate/Jack scene we saw), who's still on the island in real time but those are flashbacks as well...there's still plenty of pre-crash/pre-rescue flashbacks that need to be told such as the rest of Ben's, Desmond's, Danielle's/Alex, Juliet's, Dr. Alpert and the Hostiles, possibly interacting with Libby's story, Walt/Michael (if they return) and new characters that we'll end up meeting that need to be developed.

 

Season 4 is honestly a total mystery right now but I'm guessing it's the story of how they get rescued and ultimately getting "home" at the end of it. Season 5 is off island (mostly...assuming everyone leaves, but that's unlikely) and dealing with the reality of being home (instead of flashbacks, just have a focus on each character for every episode with the key storyline being the dissention between Jack and Kate), and the eventual main story being someone "huge" dies and Jack turns into shit. I think we may end Season 5 with the same ending and the same exact moment of Season 3, and Season 6 is the journey back to the island to end the show in real time with no more flashbacks and reveal all the secrets and questions we've had. I think this is the first and only "flash forward" we'll ever get, and you can put the time period of the scene happening last night in 2009 with going back to the island happening in real time in 2010.

 

There's going to be some time lapse issues...but I'm guessing we cover the rest of 2004, 2005, and 2006 in Season 4. We cover 2007, 2008, 2009 in Season 5. Season 6 is day by day, 2010, just like our original time on the island. That may or may not make sense, but it really depends on whether to not they feel they need to have the show end in real 2010 time. This may not be the case because if you have a sense of the tone this scene was with Jack and Kate...it definitely doesn't seem like it's been 5 years since the crash, much more like one or two. They haven't talked to each other or seen each other in a long time, and clearly she told Jack something in the past (what he said to her on the phone in his apartment) that caused them to stop communication with both of them. Even hearing Jack's wife talk about how she's still the emergency contact makes me think Jack's been around less than a year. This can bring up the theory that what we saw wasn't a flash forward, but what we saw was May 2007 in real time. But that would make things even more confusing going into the last three seasons.

 

I shouldn't just say Season 4 is a mystery right now, the whole show is...that's how amazing LOST is. Everyone, including myself watching Season 1 back in 2004-2005, figured once we found out whether or not they got off the island, that would be it. We now know Jack and Kate DO get off the island and life goes on...but we now have more questions then ever before, and more of a story to tell then ever before...AND knowing that there's still a story to be told now they are off the island with the possibility of them wanting to GO BACK TO IT.

 

Has your head exploded yet? In one, five minute scene...the entire show has changed, dramatically.

 

But I think it's going to work.

[Jonathon 0]

I loved how it was Charlie being a musician and being able to figure out the melody is what essentially saved the day. Going back to season 1, it was his being a musician and not a doctor/hunter/badass that he hated most about himself, how he felt like he had nothing to contribute to the team.

[iliketurtles 0]

Also a funny note...Alpert looks into the camera on a close-up talking to Ben during their scene in the finale.

[Scroby 0]

I watched the Season finalle on Sunday with a buddy of mine. He's a huge fan and I have not seen one episode of Lost, so he really wanted me to check it out......and I really really loved it. So right now, he let me borrow season 1 and I'm going to spend the next week or so watching it and trying to get caught up.

[C Dubya 04 0]

Season 1 is awesome.

Season 2 is very good.

Skip the first 6 episodes of Season 3. The rest is good.

The final was the bomb.

[Youth N Asia 0]

I liked the first 6 eps of season 3 well enough, although there was some pointlessness...and a dumb 3 month break.

 

I enjoyed the season. Some nice new twists, but again, more questions that are 9 months away from even beginning to be answered

[JangoFett4Hire 0]

Was Walt written off the show because he'll age too quick for the story line? He seemed to be in the threshold of that awkward age in his brief cameo.

 

Also, any chance that they "he" Kate was referring to when she said "he'll be wondering where I am" is her child, as opposed to a loveR?

[Jonathon 0]

Season ranking time...

 

Season 1 is one of the best seasons on television ever, with maybe one of the best pilots ever. A great air of mystery surrounds the whole thing, and you're constantly saying "What the...?" (in a good way)

 

Season 2 can get a little too bogged down, a lot of new characters are introduced, and the season becomes mostly about the Hatch. Some stellar episodes, though, most notably the Tailies flashback episode. Things pick up towards the end when Ben shows up and Michael starts flipping out.

 

Season 3 told a great cohesive story, despite all the complaining from the fans. A couple throwaway episodes (Niki and Paulo), and some completely pointless flashbacks (Jacks tattoos), but the good outweighs the bad. We start to get a feel that the survivors of 815 might be just as capable of murder as the Others. A lot of nice themes are presented. Terrific finale.

[JangoFett4Hire 0]

Season ranking time...

 

Season 1 is one of the best seasons on television ever, with maybe one of the best pilots ever. A great air of mystery surrounds the whole thing, and you're constantly saying "What the...?" (in a good way)

 

Season 2 can get a little too bogged down, a lot of new characters are introduced, and the season becomes mostly about the Hatch. Some stellar episodes, though, most notably the Tailies flashback episode. Things pick up towards the end when Ben shows up and Michael starts flipping out.

 

Season 3 told a great cohesive story, despite all the complaining from the fans. A couple throwaway episodes (Niki and Paulo), and some completely pointless flashbacks (Jacks tattoos), but the good outweighs the bad. We start to get a feel that the survivors of 815 might be just as capable of murder as the Others. A lot of nice themes are presented. Terrific finale.

 

 

Are you sure the Nikki and Paulo story was a throwaway? Everyone complained that the

VW bus was extraneous, but it sure had a pivotal spot in the finale.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

the island is a portal place, like the devil's or the bermuda triangle. but no alternate realities.

 

this was revealed awhile ago, but the numbers correspond to a made-up scientific theory about when mankind will destroy themselves (called the vinaboccia or something) numbers. Its in a cross-over book called Bad Twin, which has been shown on the show and published in real life.

 

anyways, dharma was trying to figure out ways to influence these numbers and thus alter fate.

 

The Valenzetti Equation. In the Sri Lanka Hanso video he says that your mission on the island is to disrupt one of the numbers in the equation and change the course of human history.

[C Dubya 04 0]

Was Walt written off the show because he'll age too quick for the story line? He seemed to be in the threshold of that awkward age in his brief cameo.

 

Also, any chance that they "he" Kate was referring to when she said "he'll be wondering where I am" is her child, as opposed to a loveR?

 

I'm not sure if that is why Walt was written off, but it certainly would have presented a problem had he stayed. Kid sure grew a lot and looks about 5 years older.

 

As to your second point, that's certainly a possibility. I'd say either that, Sawyer or someone new are the three likely possibilities.

[dubq 0]

The only thing that came to mind with The Dark Tower series of books relating to a newpaper clipping about a death was. Father Callahan was on the run from The Low Men, The Crimson King's Henchmen. They would leave all kinds of Lost Pet posters with descriptions of the father (to make other vampires aware of his presence).

 

The reason Father Callahan was on the run was because in Salem's Lot when he was made to drink the blood of the head vampire Barlow, he gained the ability to see vampires in the world. They would have a blue glow around them. Anyway Callahan became a slayer of sorts and killed several vampires in NEW YORK. He worked at a homeless shelter and began killing vampires. They got smarter and more aware of Callahan's doings and it got back to the lowmen.

 

When the heat got to be too much he made his way across country on the run. On his way he saw less and less of the signs and made his way to California. In California he read a newspaper on break at a hard labor job. He spotted an article that spoke of his good friend Rowan Macgruder (the man who ran the homeless shelter) who had been critically wounded by "The Hitler Brothers" two neo nazi killers that had been terrorizing New York.

 

It was actually a setup to bait Callahan into coming back to New York, which he did to visit his friend in the hospital just before his friend died.

 

That's all I can remember about a newspaper clipping from The Dark Tower books. It is in Callahan's story in Wolves Of The Calla.

 

How many books are in that series? Is it worth reading? I know it's a bit off-topic, but a few friends and family members have consistently recommended that I read the series even though I'm not a King fan.

[BlackFlagg 0]

on another note, Mikhail is so the Rasputin of Lost, as much as I love him I can't wait to see just what it takes to finally put him down for good, heh.

[Atticus Chaos 0]

If it was Michael's funeral where was Walt? Unless he found out that Michael killed Ana Lucia and Libby and ran away.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

on another note, Mikhail is so the Rasputin of Lost, as much as I love him I can't wait to see just what it takes to finally put him down for good, heh.

 

 

He's not dead after the grenade?

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

on another note, Mikhail is so the Rasputin of Lost, as much as I love him I can't wait to see just what it takes to finally put him down for good, heh.

 

 

He's not dead after the grenade?

[BlackFlagg 0]

Someone just posted on another board that in the ep where Michael signs Walt away his name is stated as Jonathan, looks like the odds of it being Michael are growing.