starvenger 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 I wouldn't exactly call Jack a total badass. He and Sawyer are kinda Kirk whereas Sayid and Locke (and maybe Jin - jury's still out on him) are more Sisko. Speaking of sci-fi, the Locke/Boone thing seems like a nod to Star Wars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 Maybe Jack isn't quite a total badass, but he is certainly the alpha male. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 Maybe Jack isn't quite a total badass, but he is certainly the alpha male. Funny, he doesn't look like Monty Brown. Yeah, yeah, I know. But I agree. He's the Alpha Male on the show, even if he isn't the baddest ass on the island. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jimmy Saint Report post Posted January 13, 2005 Poor episode on the whole with fuck all happening except for a few interesting tidbits. I agree that it felt like a build episode. Boone is one of the worst charecters in this show, partly because the guy playing him is a shit actor and partly because its just a rubbish charecter on the whole. They need to kill someone on this show soon and Boone would'nt be missed. 'It was all a dream' was a stupid ending as well, poor form for this show which usually gets it so right. I'd rate it B- and one of, if not the worst episode of the season so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 You are so fucking high. There was SO MUCH happening in this episode. It was probably the most information-intensive episode since the pilot. - It started a conflict between Locke and Jack, opening the possibilities of "sides" being taken. This is the biggest development they've made yet. This is HUGE. - Kate found out Sun knows English. Sun found out that Kate is a criminal. - Jack makes amends with Kate after what happened in the last episode. - Boone and Shannon are step-siblings. "I felt relieved". Conflict between Sayid and Boone. - We find out what the metal thing is. - Compasses don't work on the island. - The beast is getting more and more defined. In the Jack episode, the idea was introduced that it gives you what you need to see to move on. You're looking at "it's all a dream" thing. It doesn't matter if it was real or not, the IMPACT it has on the character is what matters. The characters reaction is what is important, is where the revelation is. - Hurley and Jin. Jesus fucking Christ. HURLEY AND JIN. - Michael finding his bag and seeming locked-in on a box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted January 13, 2005 I'm hooked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 A B+?!?! That was an A+ Episode, top 3, you're nuts. The whole Shannon thing was a cop out. B+ bitches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 I'm hooked. YES! Brian will appreciate the nuances in LOSTs storytelling. Unlike Mole. It wasn't a cop out. They've already established that the Island can make you see things with the Jack storyline. This took it further, but the concept was the same. Boone needed to see Shannon dead, but Shannon couldn't die, so they did it this way. If you accepted it before, you accept it now. If you didn't, then there should have been more complaints back when they did it the first time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 Still, let's just say I agree with the TWoP recapper. Fonzie's revving up his motorcycle, and is ready to go if there's another death swerve... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 starvenger, you're normally pretty on-point as a poster ... so why risk ruining it with a 'jumped the shark' reference?!? 2001 called, they want their buzzword back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 It wasn't a cop out. They've already established that the Island can make you see things with the Jack storyline. This took it further, but the concept was the same. Boone needed to see Shannon dead, but Shannon couldn't die, so they did it this way. If you accepted it before, you accept it now. If you didn't, then there should have been more complaints back when they did it the first time. B+, nor more, no less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 starvenger, you're normally pretty on-point as a poster ... so why risk ruining it with a 'jumped the shark' reference?!? 2001 called, they want their buzzword back. It gets the point across. Plus, I wanted to write "Fonzie's revving up his motorcycle"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 Unfortunately, the Fonz jumped the shark on waterskis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 After listening to Locke's speech about predators to Jack, I wonder if his intentions are really all that sinister. Think about it, Locke knows that Ethan alone is very dangerous. And if there are more like him that are working with him, then the plane survivors wouldn't stand a chance against them. Perhaps Locke is putting people through his tests to strengthen them for an upcoming fight. He's helped Jack realize he's a leader, helped Charlie kick his habit, and has now helped Boone cut himself off from his sister; all acts that help the survivors become stronger. He's preparing the troops for war. That's a freaking awesome way to look at things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 Unfortunately, the Fonz jumped the shark on waterskis. And "revving up the waterski tow-line" doesn't have the same ring, does it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 JESUS TITTY-FUCKING CHRIST, why didn't I start watching this show sooner?! I caught up by watching them on DVD (My dad was burning them), so I'm all caught up. Locke is awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 Unfortunately, the Fonz jumped the shark on waterskis. And "revving up the waterski tow-line" doesn't have the same ring, does it? Damn right. I promise, no more "jumping the shark" references from me. Unless there's another death swerve this season, in which case I'm boycotting the show. JESUS TITTY-FUCKING CHRIST, why didn't I start watching this show sooner?! I'm thinking because seeing Jesus tit-fucking a chick has got to be interesting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jimmy Saint Report post Posted January 14, 2005 When the whole show centres around a shite chareter like Boone for an hour then does a whole "it was just a dream" cop out ending it is a shite episode for me. The good episodes of Lost do all the small nuances and give you a cracking flashback plus a strong island episode too. I could see the whole she wasent really dead thing a mile off as well. Not a good sign for Lost where the good stuff you never see coming. When Claire got taken and Charlie almost got killed I was like yeah the show is cracking now I can't wait till next week to find out whats going on. To be honest I cound'nt careless about Jin and Hurley going fishing I'd rather they you know follow up on some of the interesting plots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackFlagg 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2005 was just reading on another board someone said that during the party on the last Alias you could hear you can hear the song "You All, Everybody" by DRIVESHAFT playing in the background. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDH257 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2005 I said it after the Charlie death tease, they keep pulling this and they're gonna be the show that cried wolf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2005 When Claire got taken and Charlie almost got killed I was like yeah the show is cracking now I can't wait till next week to find out whats going on. To be honest I cound'nt careless about Jin and Hurley going fishing I'd rather they you know follow up on some of the interesting plots. I'm thinking that the Hurley/Jin interaction scenes are building towards something else later in the show ... or, if absolutely nothing else, are a good way to flesh out their characters. Plus, each episode can't be wham~bang~actionactionaction ... you need to build up before things can really go down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted January 16, 2005 Just finished watching the first episodes and am currently on the episode where they have flashbacks to Charlie's singing career. Pretty good show so far. They've done a good job of making all the charactors interesting. How do the following episodes hold up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2005 Have you seen the Locke episode? There isn't a "bad" episode, IMO. Sawyers episode "Confidence Man" is really good, the Claire centric episode "Raised by Another" is awesome.. infact, they get pretty fucking good after Charlies episode with a few questionable storyline twists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Evolution Report post Posted January 16, 2005 Something that's a little wrong with Boone's hallucination is that he really would have no idea of what the monster would do to Shannon. He wasn't there to see the co-pilot's remains, and unless Charlie, Jack or Kate explained the story to him, he wouldn't even have a mental picture in his head. So having Shannon look like she did was merely a ploy by the writers' to fake viewers out, not necessarily Boone. Just keep in mind that the co-pilot was not eaten up and had a skeleton spit out. He looked he had been gnawed on by the monster and left for dead in the tree. Yes, the time has come to kill a person. For real-real. Not for play-play. Awesome episode, the Shannon/Boone stuff was really disturbing but at least it had more of a point than the Kate stuff did (at least that's how I felt). Next week should be very nice, as I'm glad that it seems everybody has something going on. And Team Locke vs. Team Jack is the true Survivor Series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted January 16, 2005 Have you seen the Locke episode? There isn't a "bad" episode, IMO. Sawyers episode "Confidence Man" is really good, the Claire centric episode "Raised by Another" is awesome.. infact, they get pretty fucking good after Charlies episode with a few questionable storyline twists. The Locke episode where it reveals he was in a wheelchair? Yeah, I've seen that one. I know I'm repeating myself here but this show has got what is for me the most essential element in enjoying acting. Interesting charactors. It's why the A-Team is more enjoyable than 99% of the shows out there. After watching stuff like Lake Placid, Kill Bill, Clockwork Orange (Yeah, I went there), that movie where that guy writes everything on his body (not a bad plot but the charactors weren't intriguing) and a couple other movies I've seen I've been big on this lately. You need interesting, intriguing charactors that you care about who interact well with each other. Maybe I'll make a few comments from my limited viewing late last night. Katie is attractive although she could be a little skinny. Looks likes she lifts the most weights of the whole bunch as she's got some pipes on her arms. I never needed computer generated bees when I stand in bee nests during my free time. I had to stop though because I felt sorry for the bees. I don't know what the world the monstor is. The first thing that came to my mind when I saw the dead guy in the tree was Predator. I also got a Resident Evil vibe at a couple of points. It'll be interesting to see wether this creature is natural or is some kind of weird Elephant inbreeding mutation. Or maybe it's some kind of judgement figure that only kills when it's deemed necessary. I'm hoping the series lasts for awhile because I'm always a fan of a whole entourage of people getting deserted somewhere and than getting annihalated one by one to when we only have a couple of survivors left. I just want to get to know the charactors a little more before that happens. The dog scene with the kid was so heartbreaking Too much camera shaking in the first couple of episodes used for dramatic effect. It's a good thing they stopped using it as much later on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2005 There isn't a "bad" episode, IMO. Actually, I think the Boone episode was a bad one, relative to the rest of the shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2005 Didn't we already go through this? 1. The episode was good. 2. You're fucking nuts and/or high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2005 The key phrase is "Relative to the rest of the shows". It just wasn't as good as the other eps this year. It just didn't do it for me. Maybe it was swerve death #2 or maybe it was because when all was said and done, I still didn't give a shit about Boone, but was very intruiged by Locke. Or maybe it was something else, I really don't know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jimmy Saint Report post Posted January 17, 2005 The key phrase is "Relative to the rest of the shows". It just wasn't as good as the other eps this year. It just didn't do it for me. Maybe it was swerve death #2 or maybe it was because when all was said and done, I still didn't give a shit about Boone, but was very intruiged by Locke. Or maybe it was something else, I really don't know. I agree with all that for the same reasons. Looking at spolier episode titles in looks like it will get very good again very soon. Althougth this weeks is'nt exactly one of the more interesting charecters. I will give them the benifit of the doubt though as the week after should be a biggie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackFlagg 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2005 evem though it lost here's a GG pic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites