1234-5678 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 Elizabeth, NJ, September 11th- Glory By Honor III with Mick Foley- Special 7pm Belltime 8/29/04 ROH Ring Of Honor "Glory By Honor III" September 11th, 2004, 7:00pm Belltime RexPlex, Elizabeth, NJ Directions below or go to RexPlex.com Mick Foley makes his ROH debut. Why is he coming to ROH?!?! World Title Match Samoa Joe defends vs. Doug Williams Pure Title Match John Walters defends vs. Nigel McGuiness Ultimate Endurance- Elimination match with each fall a different stipulation. First fall is a Tap Out match. Second fall with the remaining three teams is a Tag Team Scramble. The final fall with the last two teams will be for the ROH Tag Titles ROH Tag Team Champions Ricky Reyes & Rocky Romero vs. Roderick Strong & Jack Evans vs. Dan Maff & BJ Whitmer vs. Loc & Devito Grudge Match CM Punk vs. Austin Aries First Time Ever Dream Match Bryan Danielson vs. Alex Shelley Allison Danger's Revenge Dan Maff & BJ Whitmer vs. IWA Puerto Rico's Chicano & Slash Venom Six Man Mayhem Ace Steel vs. Fast Eddie vs. Izzy vs. Angel Dust vs. Kahagas vs. Trent Acid Jobs Are On The Line Matt Stryker vs. Jay Lethal Special Attraction Match Jimmy Rave vs. Dixie Combat Zone Wrestling is happy to present it's first ever doubleheader show. That's right, in one day CZW will be having two shows at the CZW Arena on Saturday, September 11th. The first show, the afternoon show, will have doors open at 1:30 PM and will start at 2:00 PM. The second show, doors opening at 7:00 PM and belltime at 7:30 PM will be the first CZW Pay-Per-View Taping to air on DirecTV. This show is called High Stakes: Always Bet On Black! For tickets and directions visit http://www.czwwrestling.com/. CZW World Heavyweight Title Match: Justice Pain (challenger) vs. Messiah (CZW World Heavyweight Champion) West Coast 4-Way (Day Show): B-Boy vs. Bobby Quance vs. Excalibur vs. Super Dragon 4-Way Match (Night Show): El Generico vs. Excess 69 vs. Kevin Steen vs. Sexxxy Eddy Cage Match: Adam Flash vs. Ian Knoxx Tag Team Match: Amazing Red & Sonjay Dutt vs. Jimmy Rave & M-Dogg 20 Tag Team Match: The Blackout (Ruckus & Sabian) w/Robby Mireno, Maven Bentley & King vs. The Maximos 4 Corners of Pain Match With Special Guest Referee CZW Hall Of Famer LOBO!: 2 of the Corners are Thumbtacks & Panes of Glass The Necro Butcher vs. The Wifebeater CZW Iron Man Title No-Time Limit Match: "The Next" Alex Shelley vs. "The Savior of CZW" Chris Hero Ladder Match with Stipulation to be Announced: Chri$ Ca$h vs. JC Bailey vs. "Spyder" Nate Webb 2nd Round Xtreme Strong Style Tournament Match: B-Boy vs. Kingston Tag Team Match: All Money Is Legal vs. Ghost Shadow & Spyral The H8 Club have said that since there will be a cage set up at the CZW Arena, they'll bring the weapons if the Blackout wants to give the H8 Club their rematch for the CZW World Tag Team Titles! Will the Blackout accept? Going to have to be there to find out! *Card Subject To Change* Thanks, Derek Sabato Combat Zone Wrestling - http://www.czwwrestling.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 Justice Pain is back in CZW? I thought they didn't want him after he jumped to XPW for 2 days before they closed down. Go to ROH. Seems like the better card to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoDriver 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 Only 4 of those ROH matches really interest me so I'd go to the CZW show. It looks more fun... You have the West Coast 4-way (SUPER DRAGON!~) The IWS 4-way, Chris Hero Vs. Shelley and B-Boy Vs. Kingston, Messiah Vs. Pain, The Chikara tag, That's 6 potentially great matches that you'd never see in ROH. Plus it's a PPV taping... so expect them to pull out all the stops. Or heck you could try to make The CZW day show and then the ROH Night show. If that'd be possible.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jobsquad Report post Posted September 8, 2004 personally i am going to czw. roh has no real blow off matches just just he usual assortment of "dream" matches while there are two probable blow off matches on the czw shows(flash Vs knoxx & h8 Vs blackout) as well as a grudge match with messiah vs pain also the chikara 10 man tag will blow the 6 man match out of the water due to chikara guys being trained in multiman tags Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jobsquad Report post Posted September 8, 2004 Justice Pain is back in CZW? I thought they didn't want him after he jumped to XPW for 2 days before they closed down. pain left for the money he came back for the money. first running acid out of town for $5,000 and now he gonna take out messiah for $10,000 2 words schould never cross your lips when talking about wrestling never and forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo Effect 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 Well, I refuse to go to give a dime to ROH after RF being with the company for so long after the scandal broke. I'm thinking about heading to Philly for CZW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoRisk 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 Come to ROH and bring me a Blackballed hat, biotch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 roh has no real blow off matches just just he usual assortment of "dream" matches Pretty much everything on the card barring matches thrown together because of injuries has a storyline to back it up. I'd think Hero-SHelley and the socal 4-way are more "random" dream matches than anything. Everything worth seeing at the CZW show is in the afternoon (Red tag, Shelley-Hero, 4-way). Do that show in the afternoon and then come to ROH at night....Flash vs. Knoxx or Punk vs. Aries? Messiah vs. Pain or Joe vs. Williams? Bboy vs. Kingston or Danielson vs. Shelley? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulfistgut 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 Depends what style you like really. ROH offers the more technical / pure style with bits of other styles. CZW offers more mixed styles with a little more emphasis on spot based matches. ROH will probably have the better matches workrate / tech wise (although Shelley/Hero and the West Coast 4 way will be fairly good) but I'd personally have more fun at CZW just due to the range of whats on and crazyness that will no doubt be there. You strike me as a guy who would probably enjoy CZW more (e.g in 3PW you said you weren't terribly into Chris Daniels & AJ Styles - and also said that you enjoyed Ruckus' stuff) but thats speculation based on reading previous posts, I could well be wrong. Fact of the matter is - if transport isn't a problem - the CZW tickets are inclusive for the 2 shows and ROH is unlikely to sell out. So go to the afternoon CZW show - if you like it stick around - if you don't head up to ROH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 CZW has a pretty solid card. But you can't go wrong with ROH. I'd go there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted September 8, 2004 ROH looks to me like it has the best OVERALL card. Plus, with the clusterfuck that CZW can be......you can't go wrong with ROH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fro 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 CZW seems like they have a better card to me. I'd only be interested in seeing the Scramble, Joe v.s. Williams, and Foley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCMaximo 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 If I lived in the states, I'd go see the CZW show for sure, simply because you'll get so many different styles of action. The Butcher/Beater match should be sheer carnage and thus a lot of fun, Knoxx/Flash in the cage could be the sleeper of the night, both 4 ways look good (especially the return of Super Dragon), not sure how Pain/Messiah will compare to CoD IV, but it certainly has the potential to be good, Hero/Shelley will bring the workrate goodness and Bailey/Webb/Cash will bring the awesome highspot insanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 Come to ROH and bring me a Blackballed hat, biotch. BUY THE SHIRT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 You strike me as a guy who would probably enjoy CZW more (e.g in 3PW you said you weren't terribly into Chris Daniels & AJ Styles - and also said that you enjoyed Ruckus' stuff) but thats speculation based on reading previous posts, I could well be wrong. Nah, I've always enjoyed Styles, I just said that Daniels hadn't impressed me, like he was on autopilot for the smaller 3PW crowds or something. Last month in the Daniels/Styles/Matthews/Sabin match though, he did win me over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2004 AmDrag/Shelley is booked? There must be a God. Genius. Pure Genius. I gotta see that match on tape. Personally, I'd prolly go to CZW, although it's close. I'm not a huge fan of the current CZW product, but the card itself looks pretty good. But man, that AmDrag/Shelley match...noyyyyyyce. The Pain/Messiah match looks good (Zandig's losing so much money that bringing back Pain wasn't a bad idea at all), and the SAT's return should be sweet. The only thing about CZW that you may end up regretting, besides sitting through the horrible booking yet great wrestling, is that this card looks like Frank Goodman is booking it (those who don't know - USA Pro cards go on and on for hours into the middle of the night). At least it starts early though. Is it a possibility to go to both shows? Alex Shelley will be making the trip back and forth...maybe investigate carpooling or something. Wrestlers always need rides. I remember someone gave Justice Pain, M-Dogg 20, Josh Prohibition, and Chris Hamrick rides from the XPW show in Pittsburgh back to the hotel and that the ride was an experience they'll never forget, thanks to the countless potty and fart jokes and other pranks. Riding with wrestlers can be classic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulfistgut 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2004 The only thing about CZW that you may end up regretting, besides sitting through the horrible booking yet great wrestling, is that this card looks like Frank Goodman is booking it (those who don't know - USA Pro cards go on and on for hours into the middle of the night). CZW is doing 2 shows - so actually the amount of matches released is a little limited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2004 And somehow CZW can usually manage to severly screw up what should be a great show. They seem to do that every now and then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted September 9, 2004 So Jaxl......you decide yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2004 I might not go to either. If I choose CZW, it would be because I love the Arena so much, and because I supported them in their very early days in Jersey. If I choose ROH it is strictly to see Foley, and I think Low Ki is there as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2004 Low Ki is in Japan Jaxl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2004 Every time I go to an indy show or a promotion he works for, 9 times out of 10 he is in fucking Japan! Bastard........... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Markingout Report post Posted September 10, 2004 Just to see Foley? You don't want to see Shelley and Danielson or Aries and Punker? Your better off in CZW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2004 I've really only seen Danielson's work, so I can't comment on the other guys. As of now, it is 60% I will be at ROH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2004 Danielson-Shelley and Punk-Aries will be fantastic. The foley stuff should be very fun too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted September 10, 2004 No doubt about it Jaxl......Danielson vs. Shelly is a can't miss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2004 Well that sucks, cause I am going to miss it. People had other shit to do, and I just couldn't get it together. Oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
