If you use drugs, you're with the terrorists

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

http://olympics.reuters.com/newsArticle.jh...storyID=6235077

 

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Bush administration took its war on drugs to the tourist hub of Times Square on Tuesday with an exhibit that links illegal drugs and global terrorism, a connection that drew the ire of some.

 

"If you use drugs, you are standing against rule of law, you are standing against freedom and you are standing against those who are fighting against terror," White House anti-drug chief John Walters said.

 

The three-story exhibit includes an Afghan heroin processing lab, with a legend warning that Afghanistan is on the verge of becoming a "narco-state" ruled by drug traffickers. Kiosks explain how dealers launder money to benefit terrorists.

 

Put together by the Drug Enforcement Administration, the exhibit at One Times Square features wreckage from the destroyed World Trade Center, with news programing from the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks playing in the background.

 

The Bush administration has been criticized before for linking the war on drugs with its war on terror, most notably for running ads during the 2002 Super Bowl which suggested that people who buy illegal drugs fund terrorism.

 

As protesters gathered outside, White House drug policy officials used the exhibit's opening ceremony to lay out their claim that drug money funds terrorists.

 

"This exhibit highlights that your drug dollars (going) to a so-called victimless crime find their way to those who would do us grievous, grievous harm, to terrorists around the world," said Deputy Attorney General James Comey.

 

Protesters said the exhibit improperly used the issue of terrorism to promote the war on drugs.

 

"This is a sort of a lame effort to build up public support by linking to terrorism," said Ethan Nadelmann of the Drug Policy Alliance, which wants a public health approach to drugs. "The notion that somehow you're going to stop people from using cocaine or heroin by playing up this dimension is a joke."

 

Who has indirectly aided terror the most..

 

the guy who does drugs?

 

or

 

the legislator keeps making laws to get tougher on drugs, which forces a black market trade of drugs?

 

Quite honestly, I don't see any real constitutional grounds for federal drug laws.

 

And there's not much room to move. Since if you leave it up to the states, the Government can still withhold funds for highways if states dared to not ban everything.

 

Anybody got a total amount on the money that we've dumped into the War on Drugs?

 

and if you wanna know, I'm not a smoker of anything, and if you want to do that, as long as you don't hurt anybody else, go right ahead and do it. I am not your nanny and your government shouldn't be your nanny either. In a lot of ways, America is a "Nanny State" where we do things for the good of the person. Laws to pretty much put plastic wrap on anything sharp. And if you are doing drugs and you commit a crime, then you can be charged for that crime.

 

To put this in an economic-ish light

 

If Demand > Supply then the cost of the supply goes up and then the competition increases, leading to deaths and all that.

 

Anybody care to tell the board about moonshiners after the repeal of Prohibition? No.. when prohibition died, the criminal trade of alcohol died out.

 

The same will happen with some of the softer drugs when they are legalized.

 

Stupid freaking Drug War

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Don't care. Drugs are illegal. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

 

Although I'm wondering if there's ANYTHING out there that if you do, you side with the terrorists on.

 

Do drugs -- the terrorists win.

 

Don't shop and keep the economy running -- the terrorists win.

 

Drive a SUV -- the terrorists win...

[Slayer 0]

Post on a wrestling message board -- the terrorists win.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Anybody care to tell the board about moonshiners after the repeal of Prohibition? No.. when prohibition died, the criminal trade of alcohol died out.

 

The backlash against prohibition was also far more widespread.

[Slayer 0]

Wear a foam block of cheese on your head -- the terrorists win.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Don't care. Drugs are illegal. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

I say breaking unjust laws is alright as long as you're not hurting anybody. The war on drugs should have been abolished some time ago except it keeps a bunch of people employed. When DEA agents can kill someone who presents no danger because "OMG HE'S HIGH AND HE'S RUNNING UP TO US" I think it's going a bit far.

 

Also, the terrorists will never win as long as you put a sticker of an American flag on your car.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

I'll be banging drugs into my skull til I'm fucking retarded

and all of my accountability has found its resolve

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I say breaking unjust laws is alright as long as you're not hurting anybody.

Too bad the war on the war on drugs isn't one of these cases, imo. I've said before I don't care what you do in your house, but if you get busted don't start whining.

 

Also, the terrorists will never win as long as you put a sticker of an American flag on your car.

 

They'll never win as long as Rush is on your radio dial...

[Dr. Tom 0]

The "War on Drugs" is a crock of shit, and so is this.

[Justice 0]

I don't care, really, about pot (Since, well, it's grown and not a manufactured drug), but anything else, before it can be legalized, better pass the FDA. If it can't, oh well.

[2GOLD 0]

I don't care, really, about pot (Since, well, it's grown and not a manufactured drug), but anything else, before it can be legalized, better pass the FDA. If it can't, oh well.

 

That's my stance. Course I'm still not big on the smoking pot in public yet. In your own home is fine and as long as you don't try to operate a vehicle after.

[snuffbox 0]

Cute fact-

 

Under todays American drug laws, Thomas Jefferson would face execution for growing hemp as a 'drug lord'.

 

Cuter fact-

Marijuana usage deaths - 0

 

Obviously, the pharmaceutical lobby would be crushed by marijuana legalization...no doctor would continue to prescribe heroin-based painkillers that destroy families(morphine, methadone, and Rush's favorite Oxy) when a non-addictive, far safer, and still effective option were to be made available.

 

And why wasnt that old terrorist Rush Limbaugh ever 'sent up the river'?

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[Special K 0]

Was that a snort of derision or cocaine?

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

I only smoke pot. Does that mean I am helping terrorists from British Columbia?

[NoCalMike 0]

this tactic is old and tired, and sadly people still think it works. Just another reason to vote for Ralph Nader if you ask me, he is for ending the War on Drugs

[The Thread Killer 0]

The best argument against legalizing marijuana is the people who are all for legalizing marijuana.

 

If it becomes legal…there will most likely be MORE of these people around.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Don't care. Drugs are illegal. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

 

Although I'm wondering if there's ANYTHING out there that if you do, you side with the terrorists on.

 

Do drugs -- the terrorists win.

 

Don't shop and keep the economy running -- the terrorists win.

 

Drive a SUV -- the terrorists win...

Im waiting for a connection between being overweight and helping terrorists..

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Obviously, the pharmaceutical lobby would be crushed by marijuana legalization...no doctor would continue to prescribe heroin-based painkillers that destroy families(morphine, methadone, and Rush's favorite Oxy) when a non-addictive, far safer, and still effective option were to be made available.

Dead wrong on a couple counts. First of all, there's no such creature as a heroin-based painkiller, and methadone DEFINITELY isn't a painkiller a doctor is going to perscribe someone. I see what you're going for, but it's terribly incorrect.

 

Pot doesn't even work in the same fashion. If your back is in terrible pain, and you smoke a joint, you're going to be high, and your back will still hurt. The placebo effect could do wonders for the patient, but it's really not a suitable analgesic. Morphine actually changes the chemistry of pain.

[Slayer 0]

Wear a long blond skullet -- the terrorists win.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Anybody care to tell the board about moonshiners after the repeal of Prohibition? No.. when prohibition died, the criminal trade of alcohol died out.

 

The backlash against prohibition was also far more widespread.

Not true, I'd say the current-day prohibition on marijuana is just as widespread, more or less.

 

A huge majority in this country have tried it and many still use it, despite the legalities. Only difference is the money goes to someone illegally, without having to pay any taxes or anything. Informal economy at its best..

[Dr. Tom 0]

Im waiting for a connection between being overweight and helping terrorists..

Al'Qaeda bought out McDonald's. That annoying guy on the Chicken Selects commercials is feeding them secret information thru verbal codes...

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

So Jared's a patriot for exposing the fact that chicken selects aren't so selective in fat content?...

[Dr. Tom 0]

Yes. In fact, he received a Purple Heart when he chipped his tooth on a stale Subway roll...

[Guest El Satanico]

Damn...how did the guy from Southern Ohio with pot growing on his farm get tied up with dem dang burn terrorists.

[Jingus 0]

A few odd points I'd like to address:

 

"If you use drugs, you are standing against rule of law, you are standing against freedom and you are standing against those who are fighting against terror," White House anti-drug chief John Walters said.

 

Nice grammar, John.

 

The three-story exhibit includes an Afghan heroin processing lab, with a legend warning that Afghanistan is on the verge of becoming a "narco-state" ruled by drug traffickers. Kiosks explain how dealers launder money to benefit terrorists.

 

Um, let me see if I follow here: the United States and the UN forcibly removed the Taliban from power in Afghanistan and set up a new democratic government in its place, right? We've still got thousands of troops in that country, right? Well, then if it's turning into a "narco-state ruled by drug traffickers" then it's directly the US government's fault for not squashing that shit, right?

 

I've said before I don't care what you do in your house, but if you get busted don't start whining.

 

Well, I'm whining about it and I've never been busted, so what does that make me? (And please don't say "druggie coward scumbag")

 

Under todays American drug laws, Thomas Jefferson would face execution for growing hemp as a 'drug lord'.

 

Since when has anyone been sentenced to execution for growing hemp in America, ever?

 

Obviously, the pharmaceutical lobby would be crushed by marijuana legalization...no doctor would continue to prescribe heroin-based painkillers that destroy families(morphine, methadone, and Rush's favorite Oxy)

 

Yeah, I've known a few people who loved eating Oxys like candy, and it can really mess you up. But how many families have been destroyed by someone taking their legal prescription in accordance with doctor's orders? Not many, I'd guess.

 

when a non-addictive, far safer, and still effective option were to be made available.

 

Safer, sure. You can't OD on weed. But non-addictive? Please, any serious pothead will tell you that's bullshit. And "effective" as a painkiller? It can give you a mild body buzz, but as for serious crippling pain, your average Tylenol is more likely to have an effect than maryjane.

 

And why wasnt that old terrorist Rush Limbaugh ever 'sent up the river'?

 

The same reason Jeff Jarrett got off without being arrested for carrying a crackpipe into an airport, I'd assume: when poor people do drugs, it's a crime; when rich and famous people do drugs, it's a "personal issue".

 

The best argument against legalizing marijuana is the people who are all for legalizing marijuana.

 

What, you mean starry-eyed hemp-hugging hippies like me?

 

And finally, the main problem with all this "drugs support terrorists" bullshit: the majority of drugs consumed in America ARE PRODUCED IN AMERICA.

[The Thread Killer 0]

What, you mean starry-eyed hemp-hugging hippies like me?

 

Correct.

 

That post you just wrote is an excellent argument against it. Anything that encourages people like you, to think like that, should not be made readily available to the public.

[Guest netslob]

here we go again, Old Man Dymond up on his soap-box...

 

"In my day, the strongest drug we had was penicilian, and it cured everything, someone came outta the coal-mines with a broken leg, we rubbed penicilian on that sumbitch, healed it right up, dang-nabbit. you buncha long-hairs with your "peace" and your "mari-joo-wana" and your "hoola-hoops" and your "23 Skiddoos", why, if FDR were still in office, he'd have your pansy-asses take long hitches over in the trenches durin' Dubbaya-Dubbaya TOO, and that'd straighten your "groovy" asses out....hey, HEY, YOU KIDS GET OFF THE GRASS!!!"

 

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

THAT CHIPMUNK IS A TERRORIST!

[BUTT 0]

Here's all that needs to be said about drugs.