Guest TonyJaymzV1 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 If the WWE had balls and smarts, they'd make Hussein a face, instead of generic evil foreigner. Make him a blue chipper that nobody is giving a fair shot at b/c he's muslim. You could have a heel wrestler, or even a face wretsler going tweener, confront him about being muslim, etc. Make them the bad guy, being an ignorant hater. Hell, to really get the fued over, get Vinny Mac in saying that he" Doesn't like terrorists in his company". The whole time have Hussein point out their hypocriticalness(is that a word? probably not) and basically fighting the terrorist stigma. At the end of it all, have Vinny Mac concede, shake Hussien's hand. That's how you can bring in a new fanbase, start a heated storyline, and give someone a character instead of a gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeathBecomesYou Report post Posted October 4, 2004 That's a very good idea, but I see two problems... 1. I don't think Mark Magnus has the talent or charisma to pull off a serious character like that. 2. Even though it's come a long way, the wrestling business and a lot of people in it are still xenophobic (hope I spelled that right). If over 60 years after Pearl Harbour, the business still insists on marketing Japanese wrestlers as sneaky heels, then I don't think there's any chance that they won't exploit people's anti Muslim sentiment. Sad to say, but with the way the McMahon's and WWE in general handle things, I see Hussein being anything but a positive representative for Muslim people. I give it within a month after his debut, that he says something related to either 9/11 or the war in Iraq, just for the cheap heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 I expect something in the ranks of Hussein(Muslim) vs. Shawn Michaels(Christian) at WM 21 in Los Angeles. I mean we do remember the last time the wwe had a WrestleMania there when a war in Iraq was going on right? We also remember that business was in a downturn at the time as well don't we? I expect anything, but trouble with this character. People booing him because he's praying to Allah in dark matches isn't a good sign. I've never seen the guy wrestle or pull off this character and to think he can be that talented to be a face in a wrestling audience in the United States with its prejudices is asking a lot. I mean in another thread there were justified complaints about Eddie Guerrero losing in a racist feud. To bottom line everything the creative team is going to take the easy way out by doing the easy thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notJames 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 ...hypocriticalness(is that a word? probably not)... Hypocrisy is the word you're looking for. And since this is WW_ we're talking about, don't look for any deep thought to be put into this guy's character. Remember in HappyVinceLalaLand, foreign = bad. Sadly, the average crowd probably couldn't process anything more complex than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 I say have Hussien, or whatever this new Muslim character will be, just show up one day and start to wrestle. After his match, have some heels (preferably with a southen accent... Bradshaw...) come up and say "Git the hell outta here you Saudi bastard! We don't want your Palestinian ass here in the land of the free! Go back to I-rack before you fly another plane into our freedom loving buildings!", and then have a clean cut babyface show up (Charlie Haas?) and say "Hey man, he's just a wrestler like us trying to make a living. He's in America now, so he's free too." and have the Liberal Hippy Haas take Hussien by his side. Play this stuff up for a few weeks until a PPV with Hussein/Haas vs. Evil Hick Team. Then have Hussien turn on Haas and lay all the Americans out in the middle of the ring. Have him "terrorize" matches, where he runs out and obliterates everyone in the ring (wrestlers, refs, time keepers, announcers) to the point where GM Teddy Long questions whether or not he should even be having matches. Meanwhile, evil Hussien uses DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY and the MUSLIM COMMUNITY to keep him from getting suspended. Eventually this leads to JBL turning face and telling Teddy that if he closes down Smackdown, then the terrorists win. So we have JBL stopping Hussien once and for all and turns him into a parking lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B. Brian Brunzell 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 RRR, the problem with that idea is that it's TOO PERFECT, which means that it'll never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Then they could have Hussien, post heel turn, enter the building freely while old ladies get checked out in line to see if they are carrying any dangerous weapons. And you could have all of his promos be cut in the same way OBL's videos were shot - in the mountains, pretty grainy video, with a rifle in his hand. He could also have an Al Jizeera Video crew with him documenting his stay in the WWE - which is why they're afraid to mistreat him, because it could cause an international incident. AAAAAAAND you could have him take prayer breaks during matches - specifically when he's losing - and the ref would have to allow it. There is so much potential here. I will be disappointed if they don't have the TV crew with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 ... And he has to have the Iron Shieks curled up toe boots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B. Brian Brunzell 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 That would never work. If he's gonna be walking and filming promos with Al-Jazeera in the mountains, the curled-up toe boots would disintegrate within hours. You need sturdy, soft yet thick soled boots to navigate mountainous regions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 You clearly aren't as familiar with the Middle East and Muslim culture as I am. Curly Toed Boots are a necessity, if not a way of life over there. Hussien needs a nickname as well. The "Desert____" or "___ Scorpion". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 actually if they did use him as a face like that, it would give some positive publicity for wwe, however typical wrestling fans will boo him regardless. I say drop the gimmick and find somethin original, if you need an evil foreigner gimmick to get over, then well you probably wont make it in pro wrestling, unless of course you marry a mcmahon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest combat_rock Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Personally, I hope that Shawn Diavari turns face on him, and kicks his ass. Have him come out at say that Hussien is not what muslim and middle eastern culture represents and so on. Granted, that'll never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Typical mark: Hey, that's a sand n*****!! BOOOOOOOOO!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 They should have him be like "Sayed" from OZ. Best Muslim TV character ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notJames 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Typical mark: Hey, that's a sand n*****!! BOOOOOOOOO!!! I read that post sorta like that scene in Blazing Saddles when the town was waiting for the new sheriff. "The sheriff is a ni... BONG!!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Phenom Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Face it, he's a heel. His last name is Hussien, for crying out loud. If the crowd hates Frenchmen, anyone named "Hussien" will be in no way put over. Now, this Carl Stalin buisness is a different matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benoit4hor 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 This is the perfect way to bring back Adam Bomb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toxxic 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Mohammed Hussein. They really want to make sure there's no possible misinterpretation of this guy's alleged 'origins', don't they? One thing I noted on Velocity the other night - Kenzo and Dupree, despite being 'Evil Foreigners', got REAL heel heat as opposed to the initial boo followed by silence that La Resistance always got/get. The fans were actually booing and jeering actively. Then again, Dupree and Kenzo are a bit more interactive than La Res. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Shit, why go Stereotypical at all... make him Mohammed Hussien, Zoologist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Umm, I must be behind in WWE news here........are all of you in this thread, honestly telling me that WWE is going to debut a wrestler under the name "Muhammed Hussein" ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toxxic 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Umm, I must be behind in WWE news here........are all of you in this thread, honestly telling me that WWE is going to debut a wrestler under the name "Muhammed Hussein" ? Well it should be 'Mohammed' if it's actually meant to be Muslim, but it will probably be spelt wrong too. It's Mark Magnus, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 I am guessing that this gimmick lasts two weeks before complaints shut it down. Vince or somebody cuts a promo vaguely blasting their critics for being uptight and they can do what they want, then the gimmick is quietly shelved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 I am guessing that this gimmick lasts two weeks before complaints shut it down. Vince or somebody cuts a promo vaguely blasting their critics for being uptight and they can do what they want, then the gimmick is quietly shelved. this company did necrophilia, they aren't going to drop this gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 I fully endorse all of RRR's ideas. Absolutely tremendous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrokenTiger 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 You clearly aren't as familiar with the Middle East and Muslim culture as I am. Curly Toed Boots are a necessity, if not a way of life over there. Hah. I question this...since I'm actually *gasp* a muslim. But by god, that's what WWE would do, I think. Hussien needs a nickname as well. The "Desert____" or "___ Scorpion". mmm...Desert Tiger.....Lion of the Desert.....Sand Scorpion.....argh, whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 Broken, look down at your feet. What are you wearing.... ...Yeah, that's right - Curly Toed Boots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sylvan Grenier Report post Posted October 5, 2004 spelt wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrokenTiger 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 Broken, look down at your feet. What are you wearing.... ...Yeah, that's right - Curly Toed Boots. Nope...it's a comfy pair of rubber slippers, made in Republic of China. How the hell would I drive wearing curly toed boots? Or play soccer for that matter. ...Probably would make a kick to the nuts more damaging, though.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 Well, he does come down to the ring with a carpet and prays a lot also, according to the House Show reports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Australian Pride 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 I would have thought curly toed shoes would be good for soccer - they might add some extra spin/swing onto the ball when you kick it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites