WCW facts, tidbits, and stuff people forgot

[Guest snakesonawiggly]

When they fired Russo the first time, why did the hire him back?

[Fökai 0]

"They can do the rematch at BFG and get the same amount buys."

 

No they can't.

 

People want to see Joe win the title a whole hell of a lot more then defending it for probably the first time. Everybody knows he's not gonna lose it that fast, so their mos def wouldn't be as much interest.

 

There's been no fluctuation in any of TNA's projects. The ratings aren't shifting, buyrates have been steady throughout, and I don't see a first purchase being made on a B-show PPV for a Joe title win.

 

The best move is Joe winning the title at Bound For Glory in October, which establishes the event as the "TNA Wrestlemania" that they've been pushing for the past two years. If they can't pull it off then, it should be done on a two-hour special on Spike. Doing a rematch the next month on pay-per-view will keep that steady buyrate and would offset the potential financial losses, which would be minimal.

[cabbageboy 0]

Russo was relieved of command in Jan. 2000, not really fired. He was under contract the whole time. Basically he just sat at home and watched as WCW really got hideous during Kevin Sullivan's tenure from Jan-April 2000. WCW got desperate so they brought Bischoff and Russo back.

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

Goldburg refused to use a pipe to smash a car window in an angle (he thought his character was too tough to use a weapon) so he used his fist instead and shredded his tendons (IIRC)

 

His return was built up via a monster truck with his name on it showing up on Nitro for many weeks. Then one week they did an outside of the arena and Goldburg stormed by the camera Fat Tony yells "GOLDBURG's HERE!" and they cut to commercial.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

http://monsterphoto.iwarp.com/5gold.htm

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Hulk Hogan completely no-sold The Giant's chokeslam on the 4/15/96 Nitro and then bodyslammed him.

 

Giant won his 2nd World Title 2 weeks later.

[The Tino Standard 0]

Goldburg refused to use a pipe to smash a car window in an angle (he thought his character was too tough to use a weapon) so he used his fist instead and shredded his tendons (IIRC)

 

Wrong on two fronts.

 

First, his name is GOLDBERG.

 

Second, he used the pipe to break the window, but the first time he broke through, he dropped the pipe in the car and after a brief second of trying to grab it, he just continued busting out the window with his bare fist.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

Didn't he have like a slimjim or something in his sleave and it feel out?

 

I don't remember him using a pipe at all, just punching the windows, them shattering really easy, then he stalled and went nuts punching out another one for real.

[snuffbox 0]

I'd make fun of Goldberg for hurting himself punching out a window...but I made the same retarded mistake.

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

Hulk Hogan completely no-sold The Giant's chokeslam on the 4/15/96 Nitro and then bodyslammed him.

 

Giant won his 2nd World Title 2 weeks later.

 

Scott Norton half no sold the chokeslam when he took on Giant on Nitro during the Fire and Ice team era.

 

He took a chokeslam, and was able to pull himself to his feet, eat another slam and get pinned (IIRC)

 

I marked out at the time.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Fire and Ice...that was a weird team. Kind of made sense in that it was too big power dudes, but they didn't really gel together for some reason.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

I found it funny that Norton would powerwalk to the ring while Ice Train would be lollygaggin' behind him smiling and playing to the fans. Especially since Norton's music was pretty badass.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Bubba Rogers had the coolest music of the 1996 era. Shame it was wasted on such a lousy (by this time in his career) worker and gimmick.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

I found it funny that Norton would powerwalk to the ring while Ice Train would be lollygaggin' behind him smiling and playing to the fans. Especially since Norton's music was pretty badass.

 

The one thing I did enjoy about that team was that Norton was clearly more heelish than the babyface Ice Train, so they had that dynamic going, at least.

[tpww7 0]

Did Mil Mascaras work any other WCW shots other than Clash X? Or was it always planned to be a one shot deal?

[GODSON 0]

I remember hating Norton and Ice mostly Ice smiling fat ass. I was a hardcore NWO fan at the time and Eddie Guerrero so I did not care about anybody else.

[Timmy8271 0]

Did Mil Mascaras work any other WCW shots other than Clash X? Or was it always planned to be a one shot deal?

 

On the show, they mentioned he worked a WCW saturday night show.

[Guest Connzilla]

Was the rumor true about Lenny Pofo being Wildcat Willie?

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

 

Awesome sig, Connzilla.

[Guest Connzilla]

Thanks I like yours too.

[JHawk 0]

Did Mil Mascaras work any other WCW shots other than Clash X? Or was it always planned to be a one shot deal?

 

On the show, they mentioned he worked a WCW saturday night show.

He basically did the shows on the Texas border towns through that weekend and that was it, aside from the one TV spot.

[Jericholic82 0]

I was just thinking while watching Impact, remember at the end of WCW, the announcers started to call Booker T's scissors kick, the "ghetto blaster"? (like Bad News Brown)

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

It was better than what Bischoff used to call it in 95-96 on Nitro:

 

"Oh, look out Sting! Booker T. hits the jumping guillotine martial arts impact kick to the back of the head! He's got him...for 2!"

 

I preferred "Axe Kick" (another Bischoff-ism), it sounded cool.

[Guest Connzilla]

Vampiro was supposed to be "killed off" on December 31, 1999 by The KISS Demon on a New Year's Eve show that was to be produced by WCW and the rock band KISS. His demise called for him to be thrown into a vat of holy water. This plan, as well as the event were cancelled once WCW head Eric Bischoff was ousted from power in September of that year.

[Jericholic82 0]

Vampiro was supposed to be "killed off" on December 31, 1999 by The KISS Demon on a New Year's Eve show that was to be produced by WCW and the rock band KISS. His demise called for him to be thrown into a vat of holy water. This plan, as well as the event were cancelled once WCW head Eric Bischoff was ousted from power in September of that year.

killed off? I thought the holy water was going to turn him "good" or something, at least thats what I heard back then online

[Timmy8271 0]

OK i know the story about Bash 2000 but after watching it again, Was mark madden in on it with Jarrett and Russo?

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Vampiro was supposed to be "killed off" on December 31, 1999 by The KISS Demon on a New Year's Eve show that was to be produced by WCW and the rock band KISS. His demise called for him to be thrown into a vat of holy water. This plan, as well as the event were cancelled once WCW head Eric Bischoff was ousted from power in September of that year.

killed off? I thought the holy water was going to turn him "good" or something, at least thats what I heard back then online

 

I think it was supposed to lead to Vampiro being a face, actually. There was also going to be some elaborate supernatural backstory about Vampiro being the son of Satan or some such nonsense.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

OK i know the story about Bash 2000 but after watching it again, Was mark madden in on it with Jarrett and Russo?

No. Madden hates Hogan, and was simply going crazy because he thought Hogan was really getting double crossed. Well, Hogan was double crossed in the second half of the angle, but in the first part Hogan was in on it and Madden didn't know that.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Yeah Hogan was double crossed in the way that Russo threw legitimate insults at him. The man has paper thin skin.

[Jericholic82 0]

Vampiro was supposed to be "killed off" on December 31, 1999 by The KISS Demon on a New Year's Eve show that was to be produced by WCW and the rock band KISS. His demise called for him to be thrown into a vat of holy water. This plan, as well as the event were cancelled once WCW head Eric Bischoff was ousted from power in September of that year.

killed off? I thought the holy water was going to turn him "good" or something, at least thats what I heard back then online

 

I think it was supposed to lead to Vampiro being a face, actually. There was also going to be some elaborate supernatural backstory about Vampiro being the son of Satan or some such nonsense.

Actually I think Demon was to be the son of Satan, who had changed his ways and was trying to save Vampiro. The odd thing is Demon disspeared after a few appearances (with Brian "Crush" Adams in the role), not to return until early 2000 with Dale Torborg taking on the role. But the new years ppv was not announced as being canceled until late 99 IIRC after Demon had gone missing