WWF/E Tidbits from the past

[spman 0]

Here's a scary thought. What if Nailz hadn't beaten up Vicne Mcmahon backstage, and actually did proceed with his program with The Undertaker, leading up to the Chamber of Horrors-esque Electric Chair match at Royal Rumble. Could one even begin to fathom how awful that match would have been?

[Jericholic82 0]

Yes, in late 1992, using almost the exact same angle and reason the Disasters did IIRC. Nasty's wanted a tag title shot (which is explained via Lord Alfred Hayes / Gene Okerlund on Update, brought to you by the pages of World Wrestling Federation Magazine), Jimmy Hart screwed them over and gave Money Inc. the shot, Money Inc. won the belts.

 

Survivor Series 1992's one and only elimination tag match (which wasn't even contested under normal 8-man Series rules, but under the large scale 20 man matches of the 80s where when one member of a tag team is pinned, both men are gone) was Nasty Boys/Bushwackers vs Money Inc/Beverly Brothers.

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Actually the Disasters turned face when Hart got Money INC the titles the first time. Nasties turned face after Hart got Money Inc a rematch for the tag belts (disasters had won the belts in july 92) on superstars in october 92ish. They won the belts, but the nasties got angry.

 

but you are right the turns were basically for the same thing.

[DCMaximo 0]

Whatever happened to the following guys/why were they released?

Chaz

Alex "The Pug" Porteau

Phantasio

 

What was the point of the Headhunters entering the 96 Rumble as the Swat Team, if they were only going to job straight away and never be seen again? Were there any plans for them as tag team contenders?

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

1995 and 96 RRumbles had a bunch of one shots to fill out the depleated rosters

[ChrisMWaters 0]

1995 and 96 RRumbles had a bunch of one shots to fill out the depleated rosters

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Don't forget the 97 one with Pierroth, Cibernetico, Mil Mascaras, and The Latin Lover.

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Whatever happened to the following guys/why were they released?

Chaz

Alex "The Pug" Porteau

Phantasio

 

Chaz just hung around a little after the thing with Marianna before they realized he wasn't worth keeping around.

 

Porteau was the same way. He did some Action Zone matches and such, but never even made it to a PPV.

 

Phantasio lasted what, two shows? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even bother signing him to a contract.

[Betty Houle 0]

  I think what happened was that in the spring/summer post WM there was an incredibly stale house show circuit where jack shit was happening. 

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I think what happened is that they lost Hulk Hogan and were going through huge backlash because of the steroid situation at the time.

[cabbageboy 0]

It seemed like the WWF lost a huge amount of guys post WM in 92. Hogan left due to the roid stuff, Sid flaked out for whatever reason (though I remember Bulldog cutting a promo on Sid on Superstars in May or so...was this planned as a feud?), Jake left for WCW, Piper went wherever. Thus you go from an incredibly packed roster in March to a really depleted gimmick filled roster with Papa Shango and The Berserker being featured.

 

As far as Nailz/UT or Nailz/Warrior in those electric chair matches goes....I think it would have been hilarious. Maybe I'm one of the few, but I liked the goofy Halloween Havoc 91 Chamber of Horrors match. It's probably the most enjoyable thing on that dreary show.

[Zack Malibu 0]

Rick Rude's debut on that show was the highlight, bar none.

[Guest jm29195]

Chaz just hung around a little after the thing with Marianna before they realized he wasn't worth keeping around.

 

 

Chaz Warrington?- didn't he take part in the Headbanger's reunion with Thrasher making it onto the battle royale at Armageddon 99, involved in the Hardcore battle Royale at WM16, backstage vs Gerald Briscoe at Judgment Day 2000, and then formed Lo Down with D-Lo... was involved in the Dudley's invitational at No Mercy 2000, was then repackaged as an Indian with Tiger Ali Singh, removed to Puerto Rico after the Royal Rumble 01 and released late 01.....

[Black Lushus 0]

Triple H question...as of Summerslam 2002, there was still just one title, correct? Brock beat Rock for it at this event, right? was it the next month HHH was just given a title? didn't he LOSE the SSlam main event? good ol WWE logic dictates he was STILL the top guy, eh?

[Team Angle Pusher 0]

Lesnar went to Smackdown!, Bischoff debuted the World Title and just gave it to the best wrestler in the WWE according to him; Triple H. Then he feuded with RVD in which he buried him. Yeah I just watched Unforgiven 2002 (also has Angle/Benoit and Taker/Lesnar, both great matches)

[Jericholic82 0]

Triple H question...as of Summerslam 2002, there was still just one title, correct?  Brock beat Rock for it at this event, right?  was it the next month HHH was just given a title?  didn't he LOSE the SSlam main event?  good ol WWE logic dictates he was STILL the top guy, eh?

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The night after slam on RAW, HHH beat Undertaker in a #1 contenders match for Brocks undisputed WWE title. But at the end of the show Brock drove off with Stephanie Mcmahon (sds GM) who said Brock and the title was going to be "sd exclusive "

 

SO on the next Raw, Bischoff came out with a briefcase and complained about Brock leaving. And Since Brock refused to be on RAW (at the time the undisputed champ and womens champs were on both shows), That ttile "was disputed" and so He took out the old wcw belt (last seen when Jericho wore both belts during his reign) and said That it was the world title (so basically the wcw/world title was stripped from the unidsputed title cuz Brock refused to defend it on raw) and proceeded to call out HHH and give him the title, since he was the number one contender.

 

Borck simply became wwe champion on SD. and it has been the same ever since, untill the 2 belts witched shows this past June.

[Black Lushus 0]

okay that's right, I remember now...as I've said before, from summer 2001 through WM20, I remember only bits and pieces of WWE happenings...I never watched Smackdown and only watched Raw once or twice a month...

 

another question...2 different Kurt Angle matches: one was when he won the title and all his family came to the ring to celebrate...who did he face, what was the event?

 

there was also a match, I believe for the title, where his brother (Eric, right?) who almost looks exactly like him, came out to help him win...opponent and event?

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Unforgiven 2001 vs Steve Austin. He was indeed face. They wanted to do the "HOMETOWN BOY DOES GOOD!" kinda thing with his family in Pittsburgh.

 

Survivor Series 2000 vs Undertaker. He came out and switched places with Kurt Angle. Taker destroyed Eric thinking it was Kurt but the ref caught on to the fact it wasn't Kurt and with the distraction, the real Kurt came from behind or something and beat Taker.

[Placebo Effect 0]

Chaz just hung around a little after the thing with Marianna before they realized he wasn't worth keeping around.

 

 

Chaz Warrington?- didn't he take part in the Headbanger's reunion with Thrasher making it onto the battle royale at Armageddon 99, involved in the Hardcore battle Royale at WM16, backstage vs Gerald Briscoe at Judgment Day 2000, and then formed Lo Down with D-Lo... was involved in the Dudley's invitational at No Mercy 2000, was then repackaged as an Indian with Tiger Ali Singh, removed to Puerto Rico after the Royal Rumble 01 and released late 01.....

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Yes Mr. Sarcasm, you're right.

 

I was a WCW fan until the very end so I thankfully didn't catch much of Lo Down.

[Team Angle Pusher 0]

okay that's right, I remember now...as I've said before, from summer 2001 through WM20, I remember only bits and pieces of WWE happenings...I never watched Smackdown and only watched Raw once or twice a month...

 

another question...2 different Kurt Angle matches:  one was when he won the title and all his family came to the ring to celebrate...who did he face, what was the event?

 

there was also a match, I believe for the title, where his brother (Eric, right?) who almost looks exactly like him, came out to help him win...opponent and event?

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Actually that Eric Angle thing also happened when they had Kurt Angle versus Brock Lesnar on Smackdown!. Kurt came out in his usual gear and Lesnar just crushed "Kurt". "kurt" rolls out of the ring and another one rolls into the ring, roll-up and win. Turns out to be Eric Angle who I think appears the next week on TV as well.

 

Why did Eric Angle never get a shot on WWE TV?

[Slickster 0]

Why did Eric Angle never get a shot on WWE TV?

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Well, he was in OVW for quite a while and IIRC the sheets said that he wasn't as quick a learner as his brother.

[cabbageboy 0]

That Unforgiven 2002 show still has some repercussions. The HHH/RVD match set up the Flair heel turn and thus the birth of Evolution.

 

I know that show had a good Angle/Benoit match and also I think a good Eddie/Edge match, but that whole RVD assfucking and the DQ in the main event made me hate that show.

 

And yes, Rude debuted at HH 91 but I meant matchwise the Chamber of Horrors was the most amusing match of the show. Rude just squashed Tom Zenk under a mask.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Both Team Angle's Pusher and Porter are right about the Eric Angle / Kurt switch... not quite sure why TAP worded his answer to imply Porter was wrong but whatever.

[Aero 0]

I must be the only one who actually liked Brock-Taker from Unforgiven 02, the match and the finish. At first, I thought Taker was an ass for 'not feeling it' that night, losing to Brock, but he made up for it at No Mercy's HIAC match. In retrospect, I think the DQ finish worked out for the better to keep both guys strong for No Mercy. I don't know about the buyrate comparison, though.

[cabbageboy 0]

Yeah but in the context of that show it was such a horrible finish. I mean the crowd and viewers already had to see that bullshit Flair heel turn in the HHH/RVD match, and then in the other title match they book a goofy DQ finish. I'd have just ended the show with the Raw title match rather than the SMDN title in this case...the DQ wouldn't have been a biggie in the middle of the show.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Again with the SMDN abbreviation...

[cabbageboy 0]

What should I do then? Spell it out totally or say SD instead?

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

I don't care what you do, really, but "Saturday's Main Daytime eveNt" is just a pet peeve of mine. Carry on as you wish though. Back to the thread...

[Jericholic82 0]

Yeah but in the context of that show it was such a horrible finish.  I mean the crowd and viewers already had to see that bullshit Flair heel turn in the HHH/RVD match, and then in the other title match they book a goofy DQ finish.  I'd have just ended the show with the Raw title match rather than the SMDN title in this case...the DQ wouldn't have been a biggie in the middle of the show.

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Agreed, I was there live and the non finish in the ME kinda hurt the fun for me. If they had ended with Angle/Benoit (yea right) I and the whole crowd probably would have went home happy.

[Jericholic82 0]

okay that's right, I remember now...as I've said before, from summer 2001 through WM20, I remember only bits and pieces of WWE happenings...I never watched Smackdown and only watched Raw once or twice a month...

 

another question...2 different Kurt Angle matches: one was when he won the title and all his family came to the ring to celebrate...who did he face, what was the event?

 

That was Unforgiven 2001, the opponent was Steve Austin. This was during the Invasion period and Kurt was the Face for the match and it took place in his home of Pittsburgh. Kurts family was ringside, and at one point Austin heckled his family and I think it was Kurts wife who flipped off Austin in a funny moment.

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okay that's right, I remember now...as I've said before, from summer 2001 through WM20, I remember only bits and pieces of WWE happenings...I never watched Smackdown and only watched Raw once or twice a month...

 

another question...2 different Kurt Angle matches: one was when he won the title and all his family came to the ring to celebrate...who did he face, what was the event?

 

That was Unforgiven 2001, the opponent was Steve Austin. This was during the Invasion period and Kurt was the Face for the match and it took place in his home of Pittsburgh. Kurts family was ringside, and at one point Austin heckled his family and I think it was Kurts wife who flipped off Austin in a funny moment.

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Umm yeah that was already answered.

[Guest jm29195]

Why in late 94, did they bring back King Kong Bundy and Nikolai Volkoff to be in the Million Dollar Corporation, why not bring in two guys who weren't totally washed up and over the hill and who could still work?

[Guest J0bber]

Why in late 94, did they bring back King Kong Bundy and Nikolai Volkoff to be in the Million Dollar Corporation, why not bring in two guys who weren't totally washed up and over the hill and who could still work?

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I find this to be a bit odd too since WWE had the whole "New Generation" thing going on at this point. Bundy and Volkoff certainly didn't fit that criteria.