Guest JJW Report post Posted December 5, 2004 Pat Kenney & Johnny B. Badd & Jacqueline Moore vs. Johnny Swinger & Glenn Gilberti & Trinity Hector Garza & Sonny Siaki & Sonjay Dutt vs. Kid Kash & Frankie Kazarian & Michael Shane Monty Brown vs. Abyss in a Serenghetti match DDP vs. Raven Petey Williams vs. Chris Sabin for the X title Ron Killings & B.G. James vs. Bobby Roode & Eric Young for NWA tag titles AMW vs. XXX in a cage match with the losing team having to split Jeff Hardy & A.J. Styles & Randy Savage vs. Kevin Nash & Scott Hall & Jeff Jarrett Is anybody ordering this show? After Victory Road and Looking at this card I don't see them doing a very good buyrate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted December 5, 2004 Fuck...the lineup is tempting. The 1st 6-Man mainly because it's been years since I've seen Marc Mero wrestle. The 6-Man X-Division minus Sonny "When was I a X-Division Guy?" Siaki has potential. Abyss/Brown will be fun probably. X-Division Title will be good, unless they get screwed with like 8:00 again. AMW/xXx again...but the Cage Match was probably where they had their best match, and it was the SKipper/Daniels version. This will probably split up AMW for that beloved Chris Harris push that no one wants. Main Event...good for Nostalgia and if Styles gets to squash everyone, but it's going to suck. Tag Titles...Ron Killings is better than Konnan, but I don't think it will matter. I'll probably want to get this from somone if it's good, but time will tell. Also, I don't think the buyrate will be too good (Compared to the previous one of course). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JJW Report post Posted December 5, 2004 I just want to see savage wrestle in the Trenchcoat.Or will he pull a HHH-Like miracle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2004 Is Pat Kenney using the Empire Saint gimmick? I remember seeing hype about this character but never seen him on Impact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coolclint 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2004 I'm really tempted to order, but I don't know if I will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JJW Report post Posted December 5, 2004 Is Pat Kenney using the Empire Saint gimmick? I remember seeing hype about this character but never seen him on Impact. Yep,He's a hell of a high school athlete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted December 5, 2004 Definitely NOT worth $35. If most WWE PPVs aren't worth that price, this sure as hell isn't. Why don't they just do like ECW did and run $20 PPV's? It's not like they're not dying anyway. Besides, Don West on commentary and The Outsiders in the mainevent should drop the price ten bucks. Sabin/Williams could be good. So could the Kid Kash match. Both will come down to how many spots are blown. Cage match is old news, but should entertain. The rest of the card looks like ass, at least from a workrate standpoint. Of course, my avatar is Hulk Hogan. Not worth $35. That's too damn much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted December 5, 2004 I thought it was $29.95.... Still probably not worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JJW Report post Posted December 5, 2004 Definitely NOT worth $35. If most WWE PPVs aren't worth that price, this sure as hell isn't. Why don't they just do like ECW did and run $20 PPV's? It's not like they're not dying anyway. Besides, Don West on commentary and The Outsiders in the mainevent should drop the price ten bucks. Sabin/Williams could be good. So could the Kid Kash match. Both will come down to how many spots are blown. Cage match is old news, but should entertain. The rest of the card looks like ass, at least from a workrate standpoint. Of course, my avatar is Hulk Hogan. Not worth $35. That's too damn much. I think it's $30, but I agree it's too much and should something like $20. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted December 5, 2004 Oh, it's only thirty now? Wasn't the last one thirty-five? It doesn't matter. The point stands. Twenty bucks would be worth checking out. More than that...hell, that's a phone bill! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted December 5, 2004 Is it safe to say Jeff Jarrett is the worst drawing "main eventer" ever? He's been the only real "Star" of TNA, and they have lost like 15 Million Dollars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted December 5, 2004 Justin Credible and a lot of other guys are probably still worse drawing champions than Jarrett. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted December 5, 2004 Wasn't "Double J" one of the main stars in WCW the year they lost like $60 Million? (probably an inflated number, but I think thats what RD Reynolds said) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted December 5, 2004 That's not his fault. He can't help that the company had 100 guys on payroll and was paying some people millions of dollars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2004 I will be ordering tonight and I encourage everyone else to as well. The cage match, X title and X 6 man all have potential to be VERY good, while the main event 6 man, DDP/Raven and Brown/Abyss all have potential to be good and entertaining matches. If you want to support TNA and see an alternative to what WWE is putting out take a chance and order the show. Victory Road was a pleasent suprise for anyone who ordered as amongst those that ordered the show, very few were disappointed. The show is $29.95 as was Victory Road. The buyrate for Victory Road came in at 30,000-40,000 which is much higher than expected. I expect about 25,000 for Turning Point. For the poster who asked, Sonny Siaki actually is a former X Division champion. It is not about weight limits but style. I agree though he is not the protoype for an X division star, though. Feel the Madness, Order the show! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted December 5, 2004 I would if it was $19.95 but I can't really drop $29.95 on it. I'll get these when they come out on DVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted December 5, 2004 An alternative to what? Maybe if it was still 2002 when the X-Division was more important than the Heavyweights... Nash, Hall, Jarrett, Savage in the same Main Event? It's like watching WCW again, and if thats the alternative explanation, I think I'm glad WCW died too. Cut that off, and you know TNA will screw everything up that looks good. I want it to be a good show, but we're talking about a show booked by DUSTY RHODES, master of the fucked up finishes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Astro101 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2004 Well, I don't have PPV access here at college, but it does look like a nice lineup. Hope they have a great show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted December 5, 2004 The problem is WWE is BETTER than this. So what's encouraging me to buy the PPV? Especially for that much? The main event could be good and entertaining? You must have TNA confused with...I got nothing. It'll suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2004 The PPV will be fine, but not worth $30. I'm sure I'll be a horrible person and download it on PWTorrents tomorrow or something if any of the matches are said to be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2004 The problem is WWE is worse than this, and this sucks. Of course, I absolutly hate WWE style, I am more of an ECW hardcore and spot wrestling fan. Nothing is worse to me than a wrestler selling an injured leg all match, thereby slowing down the spots to a crawl like pace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ice Classic V.2 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 For Dish Network subscribers, do you know what channel I can watch the preshow? On TNA's site they say it's offered for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 Nothing is worse to me than a wrestler selling an injured leg all match, thereby slowing down the spots to a crawl like pace. *Waits for the bashing...* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix Fury Legdrop 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 For Dish Network subscribers, do you know what channel I can watch the preshow? On TNA's site they say it's offered for free. Dish doesn't offer it; just a screen saying "TNA Turning Point at 8:00 PM" or whatever it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmpunk04 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 On the preshow they are teasing a limo from Stamford has arrived. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fro 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 PWInsider is reporting that... (SPOILERS) Teddy Hart is backstage and may be involved with Team Canada tonight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 The only things that look good to me on this show is Sabin vs Williams and XXX vs AMW...that alone isn't worth 30 bucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 Apparently Team Canada won the tag titles back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 TNA PPV REPORT DECEMBER 5, 2004 LIVE FROM ORLANDO, FLA. -The show opened with clips of Randy Savage talking about returning to wrestling. A.J. Styles talked about how Savage "paved the path" for wrestlers like him. -A skit aired of Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, and Jeff Jarrett dressed up as Elvis driving in a fake car making "King of Wrestling" references. It was meant to be cheesy and it accomplished its intent. -A fake remake aired of Abyss approaching Vince McMahon and Triple H backstage with balloons. They showed the Vince imitator from behind as he cackled. The Hunter imitator, wielding a sledgehammer, backed down from the much larger Abyss after spouting some of his catch phrases. -Mike Tenay and Don West introduced the show and previewed the line-up. 1 -- B.G. JAMES & RON KILLINGS vs. ERIC YOUNG & BOBBY ROODE (a/k/a Team Canada, w/Scott D'Amore) James did his pre-match mic work and the crowd enthusiastically took part in reciting the well-known lines. Tenay said that Konnan was absent due to a separated shoulder. In reality, Konnan is wrestling in Mexico tonight. Killings sold for the heels during the body of the match. He hit a missile dropkick and hot-tagged James at 6:00. James punched away at both heels. At 7:30 four-way action broke out. Killings gave Roode a dropkick as James held him in the air. Before the cover, D'Amore crawled into the ring. That distracted Killiongs. James then set up the Pump-Handle Slam. Johnny Devine ran out and broke a hockey stick across James's back as the ref tended to D'Amore. Roode then made the pin. WINNERS: Team Canada at 8:28. STAR RATING: * -- With a PPV audience, they have to assume these are veteran, dedicated TNA fans, so they could have come up with a better finish than Team Canada's usual match finish with the D'Amore interference and hockey stick weapon. -Shane Douglas, with his cartoonishly absurd facial expressions, interviewed Dusty Rhodes. It's hard to steal the show during a Dusty interview, but Douglas's facial expressions were so ridiculous, I barely heard a word Dusty said. Dusty talked his usual gibberish hyping the event as big time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mynameisdane Report post Posted December 6, 2004 KAZARIAN STOLE GARZA'S MUSTACHE INSTAFEUD!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
