Enigma 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2004 I even remember them hyping up No Mercy 2002, and them saying "Edge & Rey Mysterio will fight Chris Benoit & Kurt Angle for the right to be called the very first WWE Tag Team Champions!" So, I'm guessing even WWE knows the lineage of the World Tag Team Titles on RAW has the whole lineage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2004 Well, I can't remember which mag had the lineage of the world tag title this year, but they did not mix the two. The world tag title had the wwf tag title history and not the wwe tag title history of smackdown's titles. I think they will acknowledge the No Mercy match as the start of the wwe tag title history. Yeah, calling the wwf title the wwe title sounds pretty dumb with the word entertainment in it. That is why they don't say world wrestling entertainment champion for the most part I bet. It sounds like some kind of variety show title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2004 It's really simple. RAW titles = 'World' prefix, barring the IC Title, which is just 'the IC title.' Smackdown titles = 'WWE' prefix. They refer to ex-World (WWF-era) tag champions as WWE Tag Champions because referring to former 'World Tag Champions' doesn't really explain WHERE they were Tag Champions (WWF? WCW? ECW? AWA?). I think they will be alternating between presenting new RAW and SD! title histories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2004 Raw Belts: World Heavyweight Championship(WCW title history) Nay. I have a big magazine that WWE published about two years ago that was a "preview" book for the 2003 year. They showed all the old titles and their lineage and the WCW lineage is actually merged into the current WWE title. The current Big Gold Belt has no lineage before Eric dragging it's corpse onto Raw one day and giving it to HHH. However, title lineages in a worked sport is one of the most ridiculous things to argue about ever, but thems the facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2004 WWE has changed their story in rE: the World Title that we won't really know until this official history is posted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2004 Raw Belts: World Heavyweight Championship(WCW title history) Nay. I have a big magazine that WWE published about two years ago that was a "preview" book for the 2003 year. They showed all the old titles and their lineage and the WCW lineage is actually merged into the current WWE title. The current Big Gold Belt has no lineage before Eric dragging it's corpse onto Raw one day and giving it to HHH. However, title lineages in a worked sport is one of the most ridiculous things to argue about ever, but thems the facts. I got that book too when I went to the SD in Pittsburgh just before WMXIX. Very well done, IMO, despite the obvious lies in certain people's bios... As for lineages, I don't care so much about what title has what title's lineage, but the revisionist history we're no doubt to get with the titles is going to be a bit annoying, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheAnvil Report post Posted December 12, 2004 Val Venis d. Rikishi Ft. Lauderdale, FL 07-06-00 NEVER FORGET! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 Bumping this to make note: The WWE Tag Team Title history (The Smackdown Tag Titles) is up and running. And it recognizes that Kurt and Benoit were the first WWE Tag Team Champs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHK 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 minor annoyance: They just list wrestler's name twice or more, instead of putting what reign number it is in parentheses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
res37618 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 Bumping this to make note: The WWE Tag Team Title history (The Smackdown Tag Titles) is up and running. And it recognizes that Kurt and Benoit were the first WWE Tag Team Champs. Now, with that being done, how will they do the history of the World Tag Belts? I assume that it will be the complete lineage of the WWF tag titles, but there's also the WCW tag titles that were merged in there as well, and they deserve some attention as well . . . . Confusing, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 Bumping this to make note: The WWE Tag Team Title history (The Smackdown Tag Titles) is up and running. And it recognizes that Kurt and Benoit were the first WWE Tag Team Champs. Now, with that being done, how will they do the history of the World Tag Belts? I assume that it will be the complete lineage of the WWF tag titles, but there's also the WCW tag titles that were merged in there as well, and they deserve some attention as well . . . . Confusing, eh? Well, unless they use the WCW US Title history for the WWE US Title, I don't think we'll be seeing too many mentions of WCW Titles in this thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 minor annoyance: They just list wrestler's name twice or more, instead of putting what reign number it is in parentheses. I guess that they feel that their fanbase IS smart enough to at least count. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHK 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 right. I can always just scroll down and count, just more convenient to have it there *shrug* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 minor annoyance: They just list wrestler's name twice or more, instead of putting what reign number it is in parentheses. I guess that they feel that their fanbase IS smart enough to at least count. Maybe they should make us refs. BTW: Your back-to-back Mollys sig continues to bring me joy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 BTW: Your back-to-back Mollys sig continues to bring me joy. Heh. Good to know I can bring joy to some people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taker666 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 Just an Update. The History of the WWE Championship is now up and running at WWE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 ...huh, they changed what they recognized from last time. ...last time this page was up, they recognized Inoki's reign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 Check out their history of Andre the Giant beating "Hollywood Hogan," since they can't refer to him as "Hulk" without spending some money: It was also revealed that Earl Hebner, who was said to have been refereeing the match, wasn’t even in the ring. Instead, DiBiase had paid for another referee to have plastic surgery in order to look like Hebner so that he could guarantee Andre would win the WWE Championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHK 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 Seeing "hollywood Hogan" everywhere just looks WEIRD. What's the status of that expired deal with Marvel, anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 Check out their history of Andre the Giant beating "Hollywood Hogan," since they can't refer to him as "Hulk" without spending some money: It was also revealed that Earl Hebner, who was said to have been refereeing the match, wasn’t even in the ring. Instead, DiBiase had paid for another referee to have plastic surgery in order to look like Hebner so that he could guarantee Andre would win the WWE Championship. .... Totally no-selling Dave Hebner. ...riiiight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 Well, they can't very well undo that whole storyline by acknowledging reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 Bumping this to make note: The WWE Tag Team Title history (The Smackdown Tag Titles) is up and running. And it recognizes that Kurt and Benoit were the first WWE Tag Team Champs. Now, with that being done, how will they do the history of the World Tag Belts? I assume that it will be the complete lineage of the WWF tag titles, but there's also the WCW tag titles that were merged in there as well, and they deserve some attention as well . . . . Confusing, eh? They'll just mention the unification during their writeup of the Dudleys' reign. Sucks that Inoki's reign gets no-sold again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 Well, they can't very well undo that whole storyline by acknowledging reality. What's wrong with just saying that he paid off Earl's twin brother? That's a lot more plausible then saying someone got plastic surgery just to help Andre win the title so he could give it to Dibiase. And I just noticed this at the bottom of the page: The names of all World Wrestling Entertainment televised and live programming, talent names, images, likenesses, slogans and wrestling moves and all World Wrestling Entertainment logos are trademarks which are the exclusive property of World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. How the hell do you trademark every single move? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 I didn't even know about that "plastic surgery" angle. I always thought it was just an evil twin in the storyline. That's crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 Also, that trademark notice has been appearing on most of the DVDs this year. One would assume that the move NAME is being trademarked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 Anyone know why the name "Steve Austin" doesn't appear in this thing? It just says Stone Cold (and only Stone Cold) for every instance he's mentioned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 Austin was in a battle with them over the name Stone Cold, which WWE trademarked. Maybe he owned the name "Steve Austin" before he came to the WWF and won't allow them to use it now. Just a guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 BTW: Your back-to-back Mollys sig continues to bring me joy. Heh. Good to know I can bring joy to some people she looks nothing like the HOTTIES usethesledgehammeruh has at his "mixers" though! Anyway, best thing I read in this whole thread is ending the brand split... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2004 WWE has changed their story in rE: the World Title that we won't really know until this official history is posted. http://www.wwe.com/inside/title_history/world_hvywght/ Triple H is now officially the first World Heavyweight Champion. The final "fuck you" to WCW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted December 18, 2004 What's wrong with just saying that he paid off Earl's twin brother? That's a lot more plausible then saying someone got plastic surgery just to help Andre win the title so he could give it to Dibiase. You've obviously never seen the SWANK~! "How much was the plastic surgery?" rant from Hogan after losing the belt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites