Blacks think AIDs made up by Whitey

[MrRant 0]

Wednesday, January 26, 2005

Study finds some African-Americans avoid condoms due to conspiracy beliefs

 

A new study by the Rand Corporation and Oregon State University shows that significant numbers of African-Americans believe in conspiracy theories about AIDS and that black men with such beliefs are much less likely to use condoms to prevent the spread of HIV. The study was supported by the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development and appears in the February 1 edition of the Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndromes. It is the most thorough examination of the types of AIDS conspiracy theories held by African-Americans and is the first to also examine the relationship of those beliefs to the use of condoms.

 

Researchers conducted a national telephone survey of a scientifically selected random sample of 500 African-Americans, ages 15-44, from around the United States. Those surveyed were asked a series of questions about whether they agreed or disagreed with specific HIV/AIDS myths. More men than women believe in the conspiracy theories, the study found. The survey also found that about 59% agreed with the statement that "a lot of information about AIDS is being held back from the public"; 53% agreed that "there is a cure for AIDS, but it is being withheld from the poor"; nearly 27% agreed that "AIDS was produced in a government laboratory"; about 16% agreed that AIDS was created by the government to control the black population; and about 15% agreed that AIDS is a form of genocide against African-Americans.

 

African-American men who agreed with conspiracy myths were significantly less likely to report that they use condoms regularly. This was not the case among African-American women.

 

"These beliefs are widespread and demonstrate substantial mistrust of the health care system among African-Americans," said Laura Bogart, a Rand Health psychologist and lead author of the study. "For HIV prevention efforts to be successful, these beliefs need to be discussed openly, because people who do not trust the health care system may be less likely to listen to public health messages. This includes messages about HIV prevention."

 

http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=14919&sd=01/26/05

 

They're on to us!

[The Amazing Rando 0]

*must resist making joke*

 

GAH!

 

Must...resist....

 

 

 

oh hell...

 

Actually, the surveyer said "AIDS", but those they called thought they said "Jobs".

 

 

And in all seriousness, that's pretty insane. I wouldn't have thought to do any sort of STUDY on THAT.

[lomasmoney 0]

How exactly is thinking whitey brought AIDS about to kill the black man valid reasoning for not using condoms. I always wear a condom when peforming the horizontal tango but I guess that makes me a "sellout nigga". Whether you think AIDS is a man made disease or not, which if it was, the makers did a bad job of controlling it, you should at least have common sense to wear a condom to prevent herpes, syphillis, genital warts, and whatever the hell else is going around

[NoCalMike 0]

I agree with lomas here, "it's a conspiracy dammit, lets contract AIDS ourselves and prove it"

 

If they want to get to the bttom of the conspiracy. Demand Magic Johnson give an explanation as to how he is still alive. LOL.

[AndrewTS 0]

53% agreed that "there is a cure for AIDS, but it is being withheld from the poor"

 

That's silly. It's also being withheld from the middle class and upper-middle class. It's only the super-rich whose asses get kissed by Bush constantly that get the cure for AIDS.

 

about 16% agreed that AIDS was created by the government to control the black population

 

I thought it was to control the gays?

[Jingus 0]

What does this study prove, other than idiots come in all colors?

[Special K 0]

Actually it was invented to create a planet of only lesbians.

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

I thought the CIA made AIDS?

[MrRant 0]

We all know they don't allow blacks in the CIA.... so it must have been.

[Vern Gagne 0]

I agree with lomas here, "it's a conspiracy dammit, lets contract AIDS ourselves and prove it"

 

If they want to get to the bttom of the conspiracy. Demand Magic Johnson give an explanation as to how he is still alive. LOL.

Everyone knows Magic Johnson was created in a lab in 1973.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

So by not using condoms, they are allowing the "conspiracy" to continue.

 

"White people made AIDS to kill us, so Im not gonna wear a condom so I can catch AIDS and die just like they want me to".

 

That makes..absolutely..no sense.

[teke184 0]

So by not using condoms, they are allowing the "conspiracy" to continue.

 

"White people made AIDS to kill us, so Im not gonna wear a condom so I can catch AIDS and die just like they want me to".

 

That makes..absolutely..no sense.

Exactly... it's a real-life Chewbacca Defense argument to explain the origin of AIDS.

 

"That does not make sense! Look at the monkey, look at the silly monkey!" - Johnny Cochrane

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Ignorance kills.

 

I had to read the article 3 times. I could not get the connection between believing AIDS is a conspiracy against the black man and not using condoms. When did blaming someone else rather than looking at your own actions, become normal? So the reasoning is I don’t trust the medical profession, or the white man, or the CIA, so I am not going to take their advice and not use condoms.

 

How about stop fucking around and you might live to age 30?

[Ripper 0]

I didn't know that I belived that AIDS was a conspiracy by white people.

 

 

Fuck this stupid ass article and their stupid ass poll that has to be rigged cause there is no fucking way that out of 500 randomly selected black people more than 250 think that there is a cure for AIDS and whitey is holding it back. I am sick as shit of finding all these polls of what black people think when I don't know a single fucking black person that agrees. What the fuck, did they conduct the "study" in a mental ward.

 

It is the most thorough examination of the types of AIDS conspiracy theories held by African-Americans and is the first to also examine the relationship of those beliefs to the use of condoms.

 

Once again, WHO in the fucking hell believes this. African Americans, contrary to popular belief don't sit around thinking of stuff that the white man must be resposible for.

 

"These beliefs are widespread and demonstrate substantial mistrust of the health care system among African-Americans," said Laura Bogart, a Rand Health psychologist and lead author of the study.

 

This shit is not WIDESPREAD you stupid stupid bitch. I would like to see the actual questions on this because these are quite possible the dumbest responses and perentages possible.

 

I DO think it is a conspiracy to make sure blacks remain looking stupid in the media. I have personally seen reporters go for the most ignorant looking black guy they could find in a sea of professionally dressed ones that saw the same thing. But nothing says "Black guy on television" like "Hell yeah dawg, I was standin ova deah, and shawty came out and shot dat dude right deah, den he went ova deah and folk tried to tell shawty to chill but he just shot him too." even though there are 2000 educated black people around there.

 

[cartman voice]So Fuck you Rant, Fuck You media, Fuck you whoever your name is, and fuck you bitch.

 

*walks off*

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Ripper has AIDS.

[Ripper 0]

Ripper has AIDS.

I don't recall you using a condom smartass. Now we both have it.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

I just want to know what Rant is doing looking at the national award winning gay and lesbian website.

 

I've never heard of "The Advocate" being a bastion of journalistic integrity, and I'm going to doubt the validity of some of the claims in this article. Seems too far-fetched to me, either that or it's just a horrible sampling in order to get the result you want.

[Dr. Tom 0]

African Americans, contrary to popular belief don't sit around thinking of stuff that the white man must be resposible for.

Obviously not.

 

I mean, Korean grocers are responsible for a lot of inner-city hate...

[Guest Cerebus]

Ripper has AIDS.

I don't recall you using a condom smartass. Now we both have it.

This travesty was worth it for this post.

 

As for the article, there was a time I would say this was found in a fairly respected medical journal, and instead of questioning it and getting angry we should work to fix the problem (despite making up 13% of the population, African-Americans make up about 50% of the people in the US with HIV).

 

But after all these supposed respected journals and university studies (I'm looking at YOU Lancet and UC-Berkley) ignore or skip over peer review, rigid statistical analysis, and other trademarks to get a political point across its hard for me to say that with a straight face.

 

BTW, here's a better article.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Black people in this country always talk about equality, but they all fall for the arguments of entitlement, or that white people are out to get them, about 150 years after the end of slavery. It's ridiculous. When is the black community in the US going to start taking responsibility for itself? Bill Cosby is 100% right.

[Ripper 0]

Black people in this country always talk about equality, but they all fall for the arguments of entitlement, or that white people are out to get them, about 150 years after the end of slavery. It's ridiculous. When is the black community in the US going to start taking responsibility for itself? Bill Cosby is 100% right.

Shut up.

 

 

 

P.S. - there is a much better response to that dribble but the entire gist of would be shut up, you are talking out of your ass and obviously don't know what you are talking about, so this will work out.

 

Oh and by the way, before bill cosby gives another speech about how we need to stop having single parent homes, maybe someone should remind him of the at LEAST one that he made.

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I wouldn't be quoting Coosby in that case. I'd be quoting Chris Rock.

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Considering that when AIDS was first reported, it was called Gay Cancer, I don't see how anyone could draw that conclusion.

 

The conspiracist in me has often wondered if they're sitting on a cure for several diseases though, knowing that they're profiting more off of a sick population than they would a healthy one. There's never been anything to support that though; it's just one of those things one wonders from time to time.

 

Oh, and fuck Bill Cosby. While I think his heart was in the right place with many of the comments he made, it comes across like he's criticizing blacks who aren't out to live the life of Cliff and Claire Huxtable as contributing to some type of social problem. A black family who works hard, obeys laws and earns a middle class income isn't doing any harm if they occasionally use the word "axed" when they meant to say "asked".

 

I initially misread the title of this thread and thought it said that blacks think WHITNEY (as in HOUSTON) made up AIDS. *chuckle*

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

The conspiracist in me has often wondered if they're sitting on a cure for several diseases though, knowing that they're profiting more off of a sick population than they would a healthy one. There's never been anything to support that though; it's just one of those things one wonders from time to time.

 

Not a chance. If there were cures countries like Canada with public health care would certainly get it. It would save a hell of a lot of money.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

How would they profit more by not telling people they had a cure?

 

I mean, if they had an AIDS cure, they could sell it for a zillion dollars.

[Highland 0]

How would they profit more by not telling people they had a cure?

 

I mean, if they had an AIDS cure, they could sell it for a zillion dollars.

Why sell a one time cure when you can sell lifelong treatments? It's far more profitable to do that, since once the patient is cured, they're no longer a paying customer. Unethical? Yes. Realistic? Definately.

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How would they profit more by not telling people they had a cure?

A 25-year old can live 20 years and pay $500 a month in prescription costs, which is about $120,000 over a long period of time, not including his health insurance premium and office co-pays, or he can get an AIDS vaccine for what I would imagine would be less than that.

 

You'll never be wrong underestimating the ethical standards of the health care field. I've worked in it five years and can testify first hand.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

How would they profit more by not telling people they had a cure?

A 25-year old can live 20 years and pay $500 a month in prescription costs, which is about $120,000 over a long period of time, not including his health insurance premium and office co-pays, or he can get an AIDS vaccine for what I would imagine would be less than that.

 

You'll never be wrong underestimating the ethical standards of the health care field. I've worked in it five years and can testify first hand.

Well then, testify.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

A 25-year old can live 20 years and pay $500 a month in prescription costs, which is about $120,000 over a long period of time, not including his health insurance premium and office co-pays, or he can get an AIDS vaccine for what I would imagine would be less than that.

 

I understand that, but...

 

Don't you think they could easily get away with selling an AIDS cure for $150,000, or something equally obscene?

 

I mean sure, not everyone is gonna be able to afford it, but some will - the rest could just be treated as per normal, because, well, tough shit.

 

Besides, that way, you don't need to worry that someone might die before they pay up enough; you get all their money at once. Or hell, they could set up a plan whereby you get the cure, then pay off the price of the cure for the next however many years it takes. Same thing, really, only this way they're not dying anymore, so they've got a ton of time to pay back the cash.

 

I mean, I know money talks, but I really can't imagine that there's someone out there who's giving up a nobel prize, fame, fortune, and a guaranteed place in history just to squeeze a few more bucks out of some dying people.

 

But that's just me.

[lomasmoney 0]

Black people in this country always talk about equality, but they all fall for the arguments of entitlement, or that white people are out to get them, about 150 years after the end of slavery. It's ridiculous. When is the black community in the US going to start taking responsibility for itself? Bill Cosby is 100% right.

Shut up.

 

 

 

P.S. - there is a much better response to that dribble but the entire gist of would be shut up, you are talking out of your ass and obviously don't know what you are talking about, so this will work out.

 

Oh and by the way, before bill cosby gives another speech about how we need to stop having single parent homes, maybe someone should remind him of the at LEAST one that he made.

I have to agree here, first of all, whites tend to think that all black people are looking for handouts, that all black people blame white people for their problems. That's not entirely true, and a majority of blacks tend to work their asses off to provide for their families and live life as everyday American citizens. While there are the welfare queens, and the stereotypical black guys on the corner hanging out, selling drugs, these people are not an accurate representation of African-Americans in the United States. Most black families I know are really decent people just like how most white families I know are. For example, my dad's family put all but one child out of 9 through either a: 4 year school, 2yr-school, trade school, the military. I mean, one thing I will say that the only real feeling of "whitey holding me back", is that I feel that things like affrimative action and whatnot arent as big of deals as pepole think. Keep in mind it was 40 years ago that African-Americans were given protection of their rights under federal law. That isn't too long ago when you really think about it, so for 100 years, african americans were treated as inferior citizens, and no one was quiet about the shit it was out in the open. I still don't feel as the "playing field" is equal for both races.

 

When your basic rights were denied for a period of 300 years or so (counting slavery), 40 years isnt enough time to catch up. Granted, for the most part the African-American community has some very sucessful people who worked to attain their status in life and should be seen as role models instead of our entertainers and athletes( not to say these people didn't work hard to make something of themselves, its just more realistic to want to be a teacher, doctor, etc) Its just sometimes in talking to some white people I feel that they have a feeling of superiority, that blacks are still inferior to them. This is of course not true for a great majority of people of any race, but the racist sentiments of the past still exist for some.. But, as for the whole AIDS created to kill of the black race deal, the thing is, Its the worst possible way to ever kill off a race. Because eventually its gonna spread because someone will step outside of their "race". and have sex. The masterminds of this supposed conspiracy are idiots and didnt plan properly. If they really wanted to kill off the black race, they could have done it a long time ago back when my ancestors were in shackles. To think that something like this would be done is absurd, and by not protecting themselves, some black people, whom I might add are nothing like any black person I have ever met with their amount of ignorance and stupidity, are playing right into the hands of a conspiracy that doesnt exist.