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I like Hassan as a promo man, not impressed with his in ring skills but he's really the most realistic character on Raw.

 

The thing I loved about last night was him being a midcarder saying "I should face HHH at Wrestlemania for the title". You notice it seems like midcarders never show any kind of ambition as far as getting a title shot or wanting to make it to the main events, ESPECIALLY heels. It seems like a midcard heel usually would rather help HHH out than ever challenge him to a match.

 

He's got a lot of heat too, as suggested by many here he actually reminded the crowd last night that he was from this country. I don't know how high you can push him but I would call his character a success at this point.

 

Anybody else a fan of the guys promos?

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I like Hassan as a promo man, not impressed with his in ring skills but he's really the most realistic character on Raw.

 

The thing I loved about last night was him being a midcarder saying "I should face HHH at Wrestlemania for the title". You notice it seems like midcarders never show any kind of ambition as far as getting a title shot or wanting to make it to the main events, ESPECIALLY heels. It seems like a midcard heel usually would rather help HHH out than ever challenge him to a match.

 

He's got a lot of heat too, as suggested by many here he actually reminded the crowd last night that he was from this country. I don't know how high you can push him but I would call his character a success at this point.

 

Anybody else a fan of the guys promos?

I like his promo's. Like you said, his hint at wanting to face HHH for the title, stuff like that works on so many levels for midcarders, or wrestler's in general, since I assume every wrestler's main goal is to be the World champ.

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He's excellent with promos, and he was pretty good in the ring in OVW as well. He also has the best music in the WWE. Believe it.

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Overall, I think he cuts a fairly good promo. Last night's was his best one in a long time. As long as he sticks to the angle of being an American citizen whose ethnicity makes him a target of unfair discrimination and prejudice, his character is golden. There's nothing better, characterwise, than a heel with a valid point to fuel his righteous indignation.

 

I only wish he would seize the opportunity to point out the ignorance of the crowd for chanting "USA, USA," when he IS an American citizen. Other posters have also pointed this out.

 

Personally, I think Hassan is one of the better workers of the new crop of OVW guys they've brought in. His Complete Shot is a great looking finisher, and much more impressive than the Standard-Middle-Eastern-Heel-Finisher Camel Clutch.

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The problem with this gimmick (other than the fact that HHH will never allow anyone else to be a true main event heel, thus hampering anyone's potential progress) is that they don't go far enough with it.

 

This guy should be even louder and more obnoxious than he already is. He should also be claiming discrimination everywhere. Lost a match? It's because the white referee hates Arabs. Not given enough high-profile matches? It's because the white power structure of the WWE doesn't want an Arab to succeed in the company.

 

Really, they should do a continuing angle where he sues the WWE under Title VII for discrimination, and in order to make the suit go away they have to give him title shots, air time, etc.

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I'm a huge fan of Daivari. He's hilarious. When he was doing commentary on the mic during that one match, it totally won me over.

Definately. He was awesome last week when Jericho made references to him not having a penis, and he got this embarrassed look on his face.

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I agree with just about everything posted here ... I like his promos (he talks very normally and convincingly, rather than the forced promos a lot of wrestlers have to use) and his music indeed is the best in the wwe right now.

 

I don't, though, agree with Vyce's suggestion of him claiming racism over every small thing (sorry, Vyce). His gimmick works because it's based on reality, and that's what they should be encouraging, especially the stupidity of chanting USA at someone who's an American.

 

Personally, though, I'd have preferred that they let him use his real name and just given him a different heel persona, something with longer-term prospectives.

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I've said this before, but I think Hassan should be a face.

 

Have him show up as a guy who just wants to wrestle and go as far as he possibly can with his career. He just happens to have US/Arabic heritage.

 

Then have a HEEL come along and make a big deal out of Hassan's heritage. Not Hassan, the heel. JBL actually would have been pretty good for this.

 

Hassan says he's proud to be both Arabic and American and he won't tolerate anybody running down either side.

 

Off goes the feud.

 

And it would probably get positive mainstream attention. Of course, they don't seem to like this. They seem to prefer it when people are pissed off at them.

 

I am one of the few people who thinks it was a mistake to end the Billy & Chuck thing. It was appealing to a new audience that wouldn't normally pay attention to wrestling.

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He's a decent bumper too.

 

For a guy with his character that fans WANT to see get their ass kicked and of course being a heel, being a convincing bumper is a good characteristic. He does the 'spike' sell for DDTs too, which always gets a thumbs up from me.

 

The one thing I have a problem with is the Camel Clutch. I know it's in his character (at least in WWE terms), but he needs to modify it somehow, because it's been used as resthold since Slaughter retired. That and the cloak.

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Hassan is definately a great character and good wrestler..

 

You can't equate his ability to what we have seen so far, he had at least only 4-5 televised Matches.

 

From what I saw lately he is truly a decent wrestler, who has some innovation in him, He busted out a Belly to Back, backbreaker something I never saw. Plus variations on Cobra clutch, and of course a lovely historical Camel clutch. The Complete shot however I dislike simple because that Move has become so generic, a number of wrestlers have used it lately. And btw...it is NOT a Downward spiral. dig up a 98 ppv with Edge doing the Downward spiral, and take a look at the complete shot, the Setup hold is completely different as its and drop back grabbing the head and neck, whole the DS is essential a front face russian Legsweep.

 

I hope he never busts out the carpet because that would so demean the serious nature of his character

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All of my casual wrestling fan friends love watching Khosrow Daivari at ringside because he's always screaming and running around.

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I'd be interested in knowing what they're going to do with Daivari, if Hussan is going to remain a midcarder for now, having him and Daivari as a regular team would be decent, certainly a lot better than seeing La Resistance all the time.

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While he's a good talker, it feels like the same promo every single week. They don't seem to get characters like this when it makes sense to have them, way too late on this one in my opinion.

 

The character just doesn't seem like it has anywhere to go from here.

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Caught RAW this week and Hassan sounded fine on the mic, Daivari though has an underdog feel and look to him. The sissy manager, tag partner who takes all the falls in the matches. They'll eventually take Hassan into another direction by possibly turning him away from Daivari who'll become just another small lower carder who cheats and runs away from his opponents.

I think WWE would never sign Daivari if they werent going to do the angered Muslim minority angles, which means that if the gimmick gets dropped so will Daivari.

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The problem with this gimmick (other than the fact that HHH will never allow anyone else to be a true main event heel, thus hampering anyone's potential progress) is that they don't go far enough with it.

 

This guy should be even louder and more obnoxious than he already is. He should also be claiming discrimination everywhere. Lost a match? It's because the white referee hates Arabs. Not given enough high-profile matches? It's because the white power structure of the WWE doesn't want an Arab to succeed in the company.

 

Really, they should do a continuing angle where he sues the WWE under Title VII for discrimination, and in order to make the suit go away they have to give him title shots, air time, etc.

I agree and I love the idea of NOD angst in a Muslim setting, even though I pin the overlooking blame for this one on the writers as a whole and not just HHH...

 

When I was a little girl, I used to love playing Barbies with friends (I had the most on our block). I had one Barbie who I liked best and always would play her in all the stories we'd come up with, and she'd always come out the winner somehow. Never once did I want any of the other Barbies to be the main Barbie even though they were pretty much all the same. So I'd find ways to give my other Barbies a role but not as big as the one I liked best. Even when she was being a bitch Barbie she was a bigger bitch than the others.

 

Finally a few of my buddies didn't want to play Barbies anymore; they'd rather ride bikes or play Nintendo. I asked why and they said that I always gave that one Barbie the best parts in our stories and the other Barbies never really did anything even though we had big ideas for them in the stories. I got the point then, but by then we were like 11 and too old to be playing Barbies anyway. :)

 

Long story short, HHH is my Barbie doll and I was WWE creative. Hassan is like...Skipper or something.

 

Batista is Ken, FWIW... :wub:

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Hassan is the one that beats the law of averages from the factory of suck that is OVW. IMO the main reason he is better than the rest is that he seems confident but not over arrogent and looks natural when he does his promos while everybody else looks like bad actors. Plus there is Davari who talks the jibberish that can distract whatever weakness Hassan has.

 

I am still waiting to see the Magic Carpet Ride by Davari.

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The one thing I have a problem with is the Camel Clutch. I know it's in his character (at least in WWE terms), but he needs to modify it somehow, because it's been used as resthold since Slaughter retired. That and the cloak.

He should modify it. I'd suggest using the "straightjacket" variation of the Clutch that Jinsei Shinzaki always uses.

 

I suppose it's good to see some Hassan fans here, since it shows that the character is working on some level, but I just can't really get that into him - yet. Mainly because while he does seem pretty good on the mike, he hasn't shown me anything yet in the ring that tells me he's something special (which was the knock against him before he even debuted). Maybe it's because he's never really been given a chance to show what he can do, I don't know. Hopefully the Benoit match will be pretty decent.

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Hassan is the one that beats the law of averages from the factory of suck that is OVW.

I hear that Batista guy's been doing all right too.

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I dig Hassan, but like others have said, the gimmick needs some tweaking. The problem I have is he comes out like he is going to say something insulting to the crowd, but then he stops talking and settles for the cheap heat(USA CHANTS). Considering the issues he brings up are pretty hot-bed issues these days, he could go a lot further in describing the racism and preferrential treatment he sees in the WWE, and expound upon it. Maybe he could go over Benoit next week, yet Benoit still gets a high profile match on the following raw, which sparks Hassan to come out and rant about how even when he wins matches and proves himself, the "racist structure" of the WWE tries to hold him down.

 

My dissapointment is that this gimmick could be so much more then the cheap heat fest it is quickly becoming.

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This guy should be even louder and more obnoxious than he already is. He should also be claiming discrimination everywhere. Lost a match? It's because the white referee hates Arabs. Not given enough high-profile matches? It's because the white power structure of the WWE doesn't want an Arab to succeed in the company.

And for a catchphrase, they can say "Back the Mack!"

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The Complete shot however I dislike simple because that Move has become so generic, a number of wrestlers have used it lately. And btw...it is NOT a Downward spiral. dig up a 98 ppv with Edge doing the Downward spiral, and take a look at the complete shot, the Setup hold is completely different as its and drop back grabbing the head and neck, whole the DS is essential a front face russian Legsweep.

Actually in the beginning Edge tried both styles before settling in the Flatliner v2 as the "official" Downward Spiral.

 

Semantics aside, you're right. Downward Spiral is a reverse Russian Legsweep, Complete Shot is (or is like) a reverse uranage/STO.

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