reign 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 Who should switch brands after Mania? I'd like to see John Cena first and foremost. I guess that means he doesn't beat JBL for the WWE title but I don't think that he should. With Batista looking very strong I think that it should be his night. Cena has to lose the U.S title at some point but I think that Cena would be more over with a return to SD! PPV after he is on Raw a few weeks to drop the strap to someone over. In his place I want either HBK to SD! to keep a feud with Angle or Angle to Raw for one last run on the flagship. If he goes then HHH should go to SD! to take on I don't have a clue...Taker?...JBL might be good as Hunter would undoubtably be over huge ...and then we'd get Eddie,Rey and others against HHH... So... John Cena and Kurt Angle to Raw for HHH and I guess Christian for kicks to SD!...Ric Flair should retire after beating Eric Bishoff in a bloody steel cage match as HHH needs to drop the tag along...any body got any ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted March 3, 2005 They'll trade the entire Smackdown roster for Triple H and he'll cut 2 hour promos every week on Smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 ...any body got any ideas? Don't post headlines that look like news. But since I'm here - I'd like to see Michaels and Jericho go over to Smackdown and have Eddie Guerrero and Rey Mysterio come to RAW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 Jericho desperately needs to go to Smackdown. He's already jobbed to everyone on RAW. Send Benoit there too because he never really fit in with the RAW guys to begin with aside from Jericho. Hurricane & Val Venis are a couple of guys who would benefit from a fresh start. Hurricane especially belongs in the CW Division. On the Smackdown side, Undertaker has done pretty much everything that he can do there and would benefit from the live atmosphere anyways. Send him to RAW. Kenzo Suzuki was buried on Smackdown, so see if he can do better on RAW. Other than that just pick some random lower carders (like say Hardcore Holly) and move them. Smackdown is weaker on top, and with Angle nearing the end, they really to win the draft this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Phenom Report post Posted March 3, 2005 RAW to SD!: 1. LL Sensible R (SmackDown! needs a star) 2. Torrie Wilson (She's doing nothing except sucking LL Sensible R's cock) 3. Shawn "Jesus Christ" Michaels (Michaels/Angle feud) 4. The Hurricane (Cruiserweight push) 5. Garrison Cade (as HBCade, which could be introduced that night) 6. Maven (Future Velocity GM) SD! to RAW 1. The Doctor of Wigganomics (Of course. Have the WWE Championship match be DQ'd; everyone's happy) 2. Scotty 2 Jobby (Pair him with Cena and somebody else to make a new stable) 3. Shannon Moore (Put him back with Matt Hardy) 4. Nunzio (Nothing doing) 5. Luthor Reigns (With Team Angle V. 2.0 breaking up, Luther needs to go) 6. Livejournal (Tag with Gene Snitsky) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slimm44 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 This has been posted earlier but where was it reported that there was going to be another draft? It's been too soon IMO. I doubt they will do one this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 It did big ratings last year, so it's pretty much a given it will happen again. Plus, the rosters need some changes, so it only makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 This has been posted earlier but where was it reported that there was going to be another draft? It's been too soon IMO. I doubt they will do one this year It was reported on Wrestling Observer Live. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 *looks @ JN's signature and agrees* Could we see this again, and for real this time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 Wigganomics? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 Livejournal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Violence 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 Livejournal? Bob Holly? (I think it may be a refference to the Matt Hardy board invasion thread) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nobody in Particular Report post Posted March 3, 2005 Livejournal? Heidenreich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 I knew that, but I'm noy getting the reference here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 *scratches head and leaves* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 If they switch Luther and Tomko, they can have a new Evolution of HHH, Flair, Christian and Reigns. That'd do for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 If they switch Luther and Tomko, they can have a new Evolution of HHH, Flair, Christian and Reigns. That'd do for me. I'd rather have Orton, Batista, Flair, & Christian as Evolution, myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 I knew that, but I'm noy getting the reference here. Because he's constantly writing poetry about his feelings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted March 3, 2005 To Smackdown: Chris Jericho Randy Orton Shawn Michaels Val Venis Kane ?? To RAW: ??? - I don't know that SD can afford to lose anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 To Smackdown: Chris Jericho Randy Orton Shawn Michaels Val Venis Kane ?? To RAW: ??? - I don't know that SD can afford to lose anyone. any tag teams. They could move the tag team division exclusively to Raw or move the one or two tag teams Raw has to Smackdown. There is just not enough on either brand to really warrant a division/belt, but if combined... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 To Smackdown: Chris Jericho Randy Orton Shawn Michaels Val Venis Kane ?? To RAW: ??? - I don't know that SD can afford to lose anyone. any tag teams. They could move the tag team division exclusively to Raw or move the one or two tag teams Raw has to Smackdown. There is just not enough on either brand to really warrant a division/belt, but if combined... To be fair, the WWE can't afford to gut Raw to save Smackdown, especially since Raw is the flagship show like it or not. As it stands, they don't want a repeat of 2002-2003, which had Raw be utter shit and utterly derail the company quality-wise. Best be is to let SD die a horribly nasty death and move the best people to Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 To Smackdown: Chris Jericho Randy Orton Shawn Michaels Val Venis Kane ?? To RAW: ??? - I don't know that SD can afford to lose anyone. any tag teams. They could move the tag team division exclusively to Raw or move the one or two tag teams Raw has to Smackdown. There is just not enough on either brand to really warrant a division/belt, but if combined... To be fair, the WWE can't afford to gut Raw to save Smackdown, especially since Raw is the flagship show like it or not. As it stands, they don't want a repeat of 2002-2003, which had Raw be utter shit and utterly derail the company quality-wise. Best be is to let SD die a horribly nasty death and move the best people to Raw. I agree that the WWE won't want to gut Raw, and they won't, but I think that they would want to strengthen Smackdown without really weakening Raw. Which is why the tag team thing would be ideal (not that it would save either brand). Likeliest scenario would be this- Raw: HBK OR Orton Christian Jericho a few lower card talents like Steven Richards Smackdown: Cena (you know he is so headed there) Heidenreich Bob Holly and his kind of people (lower midcarders with no direction whatsoever) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 as long as they don't break up existing Tag teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 I'd definitely send Orton and Jericho to SD. Right now, the only main event heels for Orton to feud with are HHH & Edge. We've already seen Orton have less than special matches with both. If they send him to Smackdown, he can at least have fresh matches with heels JBL & Angle and faces like Booker T, Eddie, and Cena. And you know WWE will want to do the "dream match" between Cena and Orton one day. Jericho NEEDS to get off of Raw desperately for all the usual reasons. He needs to re-establish himself as a main eventer, because the last time anyone took him serious as a threat to the World Title was back in 2001, and that was before his dreaded run as Undisputed Champion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 They can't send Orton to Smackdown. He's the absolute perfect opponent for Batista right now. They've already got a built-in storyline where Orton resents that Batista could get the job done where he couldn't, and also holds natural resentment from when Batista destroyed him when he was getting kicked out of Evolution. Just the fact that they had two new guys in the main event that were both credible as a champion and a threat to the championship, that hadn't been jobbed out in 100 different ways would be a great step for the business. If anyone should go over to Smackdown, it should be HBK. He's already played the Evolution feud to death, he's had a crappy feud with Kane, and now after feuding with Edge, he really has nothing else to do on Raw. Either as a face who can actually wrestle and cut a promo, or as a new clever heel, I think he'd be great on Smackdown. As for someone to move from Smackdown to Raw, I think Big Show would be great. Kane and Snitsky are absolute jokes right now, and Raw could use a big man that can stand up to Batista. I don't think Batista actually could demon bomb or even give a decent spinebuster to Big Show, so it would be interesting to see a PPV match, where they work around that with a storyline that with his finishing moves cut off, he has to use his whole arsenal to pin the Big Show. I'd be partial to a superplex and big splash for the finish myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 Send Orton, Batista, Edge and Christian to SD! along with Jericho, Benoit and Shelton Benjamin. Send the Undertaker, Kurt Angle, and JBL back to RAW! so HHH & HBK can work matches like its 1999 all over again. Let the old goofs take up RAW while the young fellas get their shot on SD! That's the type of stuff the WWE needs to do. It's time they get the locker room cancers out of the young guy’s games. The WWE will probably work out a deal with Spike and get SD! transferred over once UPN dumps the show. Jericho/Benoit/Eddy/Rey vs. Orton/Batista/Edge/Christian where all those guys become heavyweight champ at least once in 2 or 3 years. Benoit and Eddy are on their last pair of legs and they should at least get a double shot with the title after their reigns got botched up. Rey winning the heavyweight title *could* just be what the company needs since the X Division open weight matches took off really well in TNA. Rey is also probably on his last pair of juiced up little legs to so there's no telling how much longer the WWE can milk Rey dry. The other guys, if booked by *ugh* Heyman with *someone* filtering out his crap, could all succeed and be possible players if they get away from those insecure shitheads HHH and Undertaker. Cena/Ron Killings/RVD/Booker T vs. Benjamin/Haas/Reigns/Jindrak could be the midcard feud since all those guys would need some polish. Killings could be a great pick-up for the WWE if they paired him up with Cena. Give them some sort of Dr.Dre and Eminem type partnership deal where Cena takes on Killings as his protégé and that could give the impression that Cena is a semi important guy on the food chain. Plus, Killings could do all the work in tag matches while Cena hones his work like Batista did last year in all those Evolution 2 & 3 man tag matches on RAW. Dump Big Show, Bob Holly, Rene Dupree, and Kenzo Suzuki on RAW. I admit it, dumping Bob Holly onto RAW is a personal amusement switch by me since I think it would be hilarious if Holly tried to take liberties with one of the Big Cancers in the RAW ring. HHH, HBK, the Undertaker, Kurt Angle, JBL, Big Show on the same show in the upper midcard portion of the show would almost be a sick joke. But, if booked properly than those guys could net the RAW brand some "name brand" interest and either put up or shut up the vets about how they're the only draws while the wrestling oriented SD! brand can tout its wrestling as the main attraction instead of past "glory" and accolades. Make the shows look different. Regal, Eugene, and Rhyno can stay on RAW while Tajiri should be switched back to SD! pronto and take Hiroko as his own. The geisha matches alone with Hiroko and Joy Giovanni could be worth a look. I think Joy has the most upside out of all of the new Diva hoes since she has an athletic background and hasn't been outed yet as a Skinemax skag like every other newbie Diva has. Bradshaw's cabinet can accompany him to RAW since that's been the only thing that, personally, I've seen help make Bradshaw look like an upper card guy without any proper build-up for him winning the SD! title so many months ago. JBL has a posse. Keep'em around with him. My other sick joke would be bringing back Nash, Hall, and X-Pac to RAW so the WWE can have it's epic Clique/DX vs. WWE loyalists feud that would have done 10.0's for RAW back in '99. HHH/Nash/Hall/X-Pac vs. HBK/Kurt Angle/Undertaker/Kane could be a draw if everyone just put their giant egos aside and did the J-O-B for each other every now and then. This could draw based on name value alone. But, goddamn, the matches would be awful if these guys worked singles with each other so I'd just stick them all in multiple member tag team matches that could cover up or protect any of the glaring in-ring atrocities (HHH, Nash, and the Undertaker to name a couple). Hall/X-Pac vs. HBK/Angle or Kane could be entertaining if the DX guys aren't tanked before the match. Fuck Hogan. He should never be allowed back into the WWE. He ceased to be relevant after jobbing to the Rock and Brock Lesnar. His rub is gone. There are a *lot* of interesting things the WWE could do with this year's draft. Both brands have hit the proverbial wall and they need some major shaking up, particularly on the SD! side since everything went to shit for Eddy and his title run after Mania due to injuries and nasty company exits. The SD! show would be like wrestling nirvana if the guys could cut loose and be allowed to use more than 4 moves in a TV match. Give the guys who know how to work 10 + minute matches with *storylines* that have reasons behind them, unlike the throw-crap-at-the-wall booking Heyman used in late '02 and early '03 when the SD! 6 were working against each other for no other reason than to win the tag team belts, which should have been beneath those guys at that point. Since RAW is considered the WWE's pride and joy by Vince, then he should put all his "top" guys on the same show and show off whether or not he still has some promoter magic left in him and make those stiffs look like somebody's again. Put your money where your mouth is Vince and put the fear of Good GAWD~! back in the wrestlers and fans by booking this shit right and covering up the glaring problems and weaknesses each brand currently faces. Dump JR and King ASAP. Work out some sort of deal with Austin and Foley and see if they'd be willing to do commentary. Austin can't be tanked during shows and Foley needs to be informed ahead of time about what's happening so he can fill-in the gaps for fans during matches. Michael Cole and Tazzzzz are perfectly acceptable announcers at this point. Cole though needs to play more video games or something so he'll know the NAMES OF MOVES, which he screws up just as bad as the WCW announce crew use to. Tazz covers up for him way too often and it *shows* because of the awkward silence between the two after Tazz has corrected Cole. That's not kosher with fans who would like some sort of integrity and care with their announcing. Still with me? That's all I got. I'll probably think of more later on. But for now, this draft could be *the* most important one for the company considering how unstable their TV slots are and how fragile Vince's health is starting to look. This company needs to start booking for the long-term or things might be *very* ugly in the upcoming years. Oh yeah, Stephanie needs to be dumped as head booked or be made a "consultant" for RAW because she has absolutely no business booking a major wrestling company after her 5 shitty years have shown. That would be a huge step in the right direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 I'd also team up Batista and Reigns later on and give them the "coveted" Demolition gimmick complete with new amped up music. Or hell, leave the original song since it still sounds like death is coming to some poor bastard. Both guys could probably benefit from not having to work singles matches in like 4 to 5 years (if they even make it for that long). It's about time the WWE re-introduces face paint into wrestling. The first match can have Reigns and Batista killing someone like La Resistance or the Bashams. This would be down the road, like when Batista is pushing 40 or so since both guys would be able to cover up for eachother in a tag team setting. Just make their outfits look cool and give them some riffy music that sounds hard. Those two guys look like genetic freaks, which was one of the main appeals with the Road Warriors when they debuted. That and killing teams dead in the ring by no-selling the shit out of piledrivers. Both guys are roughly the same size but they each look unique. Hell, Luther's already got the weird hair like the Roadies had. Dave can shave his head bald or cut it down like he had during his early SD! days as D-Von's church box collector. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 I applaud the work put into those posts, Sass. Not exactly sure if I agree with your ideas, but you get an A for effort. TO RAW: 1) Eddy Guerrero 2) Luther Reigns 3) Paul London (one of the only cruisers who has potential to be MORE then a cruiser) 4) Kenzo 5) Undertaker TO SMACKDOWN 1) Randy Orton 2) Shawn Michaels 3) The Hurricane 4) Chris Jericho 5) Edge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2005 I applaud the work put into those posts, Sass. Not exactly sure if I agree with your ideas, but you get an A for effort. TO RAW: 1) Eddy Guerrero 2) Luther Reigns 3) Paul London (one of the only cruisers who has potential to be MORE then a cruiser) 4) Kenzo 5) Undertaker TO SMACKDOWN 1) Randy Orton 2) Shawn Michaels 3) The Hurricane 4) Chris Jericho 5) Edge Smackdown's audience is predominantly hispanic. Putting one of their top stars on the other show is death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted March 3, 2005 I would gladly watch both shows under Sass's vision. Even the RAW one with all the cancers, just because it would have this bizarre train wreck appeal, and from a business sense, it would most likely get the casual fans excited again. What's hilarious is that Sass didn't even touch on all the ways they could bury Ric Flair with that main event line-up. If he refuses to go away, I no longer have sympathy for him when they take a dump on him on live TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites