Zetterberg is God 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2005 Florida historians have discovered a 40-year-old film clip of a clean-cut Jim Morrison that will give fans a different view of the Doors singer before his wilder days as a drug-using rock legend who drank hard and died young. The 1964 black-and-white public relations film, shot at Florida State University (FSU) shows a nerdy-looking Morrison, a rock bad boy who died in 1971 at 27 years old, acting the part of a young man whose university application has been rejected. The 16-minute video has Morrison among wholesome scenes of college life, parades and football, a sharp contrast to his image as a long-haired, leather-clad rebel poet accused of exposing himself and simulating a sex act at a Miami concert in 1969. "It's incredible. He's so clean-cut and soft-spoken," said Jody Norman, archives supervisor at the State Library and Archives of Florida, and a Doors fan. The website ifilm.com, which features video of all kinds, posted the clip under the heading "Jim Morrison: College Dork." In the film, the Florida native plays a dejected would-be university student who reads a rejection letter from a school and then earnestly questions a school administrator as to why he can't go to college. "But what happened? How come my parents and the state and university didn't look ahead?" he said. The Doors were one of the most influential rock bands of the 1960s whose hits included Light My Fire and Riders on the Storm. They broke up a few years after Morrison died. He was found dead in the bath of his Paris apartment on July 3, 1971, apparently of a lethal mix of alcohol and drugs. The French coroner's verdict of death by natural causes and his hurried burial sparked cover-up theories for years. Norman said the film was among many turned over by FSU to the state archives and contained no identification or credit for Morrison, who would have been around 20 years old when it was shot. He was spotted by a sharp-eyed archivist who was reviewing the films. "We know he was at FSU for a period of time and he did some acting when he was there," Norman said. "It preserves some historical backdrop and background for some people who have made the state of Florida ... what we are today." The film was incorporated into Florida's archives and the part featuring Morrison, runs 1 minute and 17 seconds. http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2665896 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murmuring Beast 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2005 Jim had a degree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2005 Film isn't a real degree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 Umm, wasn't this covered in the Doors movie? The movie seemed to potray him as an indy film geek, and dabbled a bit in drugs, and could write good lyrics. This isn't anything new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 Whatever could possibly discovered can still not contain his influence on any cool band or singer since 1971. Morrison is God. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 Film isn't a real degree. Neither is communications. But dammit, I have one of those things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Undertow Report post Posted March 12, 2005 Haha, this Morrison is so much different than the one everyone is used to seeing. "The 16-minute video has Morrison among wholesome scenes of college life, parades and football, a sharp contrast to his image as a long-haired, leather-clad rebel poet accused of exposing himself and simulating a sex act at a Miami concert in 1969. " That part hits the nail on the head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murmuring Beast 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 According to Ray Manzarek, the film does not mention Jim getting a degree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 NEWSFLASH: Doing a bunch of acid made you a poet back in the day. Even if you rhymed 'liar' and 'fire' more than once. I did some acid and all I got was this: ^Not me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 Jim's muse was the drink. Which is in the poetic tradition, indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godthedog 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 Film isn't a real degree. of course it is, you're learning a craft. if it's a production-heavy major, you learn how to set up a camera and shit. if it's a studies-heavy major, you learn how to write academic word-porn. somebody told me about a recent new york times article titled "is film studies the new MBA?" i responded "i hope not, i don't want these stupid practical-minded motherfuckers crowding up my major." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 Hey, I know how it is. I have a bachelor of basket weaving. People are always giving me shit, but something's gotta send my kids to the dentist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 Jim's muse was the drink. Which is in the poetic tradition, indeed. I like drinking. And the man had good taste too, Bushmill's Irish Whiskey and Tecate or Dos Equis being two favorites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 Write me some poetry, tough guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 I've written plenty (I call em lyrics, poetry is for fags) and received nothing but accolades because I am a creative genius. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 You calling your hero a fag? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 You misquoted me! Actually though, have you ever tried to read most of his poetry? It doesn't come across as well as it does when it is spoken, or sung. I do recommend his poetry album, "An American Prayer" though. That's very good, tells a very good story, and the other Doors do some of the best instrumentals they had ever done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2005 I was never a poetry fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2005 NEWSFLASH: Doing a bunch of acid made you a poet back in the day. Even if you rhymed 'liar' and 'fire' more than once. Morrison didn't write the lyrics for Light My Fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted March 13, 2005 somebody told me about a recent new york times article titled "is film studies the new MBA?" i responded "i hope not, i don't want these stupid practical-minded motherfuckers crowding up my major." Ditto! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2005 I've written plenty (I call em lyrics, poetry is for fags) and received nothing but accolades because I am a creative genius. Reading your posts, I can't disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2005 Here's two I enjoy. They were tough to put to music though. DO YOU LIKE IT? I'm just here to ask a few questions And learn for myself a simple lesson So sit back, relax, puff away on that blunt I'm a little bit pissed, so prepare for the brunt Planes crash down our symbols of freedom Did you ask yourself what the hell have we done? Cops, firemen with families burn, it's a little rotten Our desensitized asses have already forgotten So tell me, do you like it? Now, onto the old assholes Schools have warped kids minds to the point of homocide Force feeding them bullshit, it's their brains you have fried Giving up their lives and taking others with them Just for a couple of days in a newspaper column Hey Mom and Dad USA, why do your 16 year olds give in? Instead of at home, they wanna be fucked up, dead or in prison So tell me, do you like it? Now for years, political lies have held many in frustration Yet you keep electing figureheads to your corporation Many people cry for change, it'll never be America will never learn from the mistakes of history So the terrorists want us dead, they've picked out a plot And until we give a shit, we all continue to rot And tell me, do you like it? Now, back to the young assholes So as your nation collapsed, you continued to lag I saw you, you fuck, on the way to your next bag You don't get life, come and read my directions And start respecting women, goddamn walking erections And like your dick, your life usually comes up limp But it don't matter, right, in your eyes, you're a pimp And tell me, do you like it? SWEET DISTRACTION I'm still not sure how I became one of her selections I just sat back and fell for her perfect imperfections She was my sweet distraction, good for headaches and a kiss Perfection? My God, even the woman's flaws were flawless I craved her attention for my every action Every move I made begged for her reaction To this day, still I struggle to replace her And end up with girls who couldn't even face her We talked about the thin line between love and hate As I realized that night I had found my perfect mate But for us, that line didn't exist, see Cause we loved and we hated each other equally I'm still not sure why she even looked in my direction I just laid down and worshipped her perfect imperfections She was my sweet distraction, good for sexy, subtle hints Perfection? My God, even the woman's guilt was innocence In those two years, I think we both grew ten And learned that it will never be like that again People still love to put her down to this day But on that pedestal, she will always stay And I can't say I don't miss my partner in crime And I can't say I don't miss being challenged all the time I can say you're the one of whom I never grew tired I can say I miss feeling so fucking inspired I'm still not sure how I became one of her selections I just sat back and fell for her perfect imperfections She was my sweet distraction, good for feeling mellow Perfection? My God, even the woman's goodbye was a hello Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2005 Wait, you wrote that or Jim Morrison did? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2005 Those are mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2005 At first I thought you were talking about Morrison's poems too, till I got a little further. Take that as a compliment I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2005 Sorry, buddy, but I was saying "I haven't read much of Jim's stuff but I remember it being better than this..." I'm sure they're better as lyrics, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2005 Sorry, buddy, but I was saying "I haven't read much of Jim's stuff but I remember it being better than this..." I'm sure they're better as lyrics, though. Talkin to me? I was saying that reading Jaxl's poem, I thought it was Morrison's, till I got further and saw certain things. I was telling Jaxl to take it as a compliment that I confused it with something his idol would write. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2005 I will, but I've always figured I wrote more in the Axl Rose style. Easy rhymes, relatable themes, a liberal dose of the word "fuck" and not much of the strange/hypothetical/allegorical stuff that only Morrison could explain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2005 Sorry, buddy, but I was saying "I haven't read much of Jim's stuff but I remember it being better than this..." I'm sure they're better as lyrics, though. Talkin to me? I was saying that reading Jaxl's poem, I thought it was Morrison's, till I got further and saw certain things. I was telling Jaxl to take it as a compliment that I confused it with something his idol would write. No, talking to him. A roundabout way of saying they weren't great. Holding it up to Axl Rose standards though, that's better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites