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Let's edit bloated double albums

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a totally unnecessary attempt to cut 'revolver' to less than 15 minutes:

 

"taxman"

"eleanor rigby"

"i'm only sleeping"

"for no one"

"got to get you into my life"

"tomorrow never knows"

 

come to think of it, you could just cut it down to a mccartney solo album and wouldn't have a single weak point (except maybe "good day sunshine," which i still like a lot for personal reasons). too bad he wasn't this good again for three years.

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Guest "Go, Mordecai!"

I'm like the only one here who really favors McCartney over Lennon. And that's fine.

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tom petty, 'wildflowers':

 

wildflowers

you don't know how it feels

it's good to be king

only a broken heart

house in the woods

hard on me

don't fade on me

crawling back to you

wake up time

 

jeffy buckley, 'live at sin-e' (somewhere inbetween the ep and the 2-disc set):

 

be your husband

mojo pin

grace

strange fruit

eternal life

calling you

the way young lovers do

je n'en connais pas la fin

i shall be released

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I'll bite:

 

Bruce Springsteen

 

HUMAN TOUCH/LUCKY TOWN

 

1.Human Touch

2.Better Days

3.LuckyTown

4.Sad Eyes (not on the Lucky Town or Human Touch albums, but, recorded during these sessions)

5..If I Should Fall Behind

6.Real World (the Piano version he did on his Devils and Dust tour)

7.Book of Dreams

8.57 Channels

9.I Wish I Was Blind

10. Happy (same as #4, amazing song)

11.My Beautiful Reward

Pony Boy***

 

 

***Bonus Track

 

BORN IN THE USA (not a double album, but, this is the way it should have come out)

 

1. Born In the USA (the accoustic version...to bridge this album to Nebraska)

2. Murder Incorporated

3. Dancing in the Dark

4. I'm Going Down

5. Frankie

6. I'm On Fire

7. This Hard Land

8. Glory Days

9. Never Surrender

10. Bobby Jean

11. My Hometown

12. Downbound Train

13. Brothers Under The Bridge

 

THE RIVER

 

1. The Ties That Bind

2. Two Hearts

3. Hungry Heart

4. Out in the Street

5. Independence Day

6. The River

7. You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch)

8. Point Blank

9. Cadillac Ranch

10. Fade Away

11. Stolen Car

12. Roulette (not on original album)

13. Drive All Night

14. Wreck on the Highway

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I'll bite:

 

Bruce Springsteen

 

HUMAN TOUCH/LUCKY TOWN

 

1.Human Touch

2.Better Days

3.LuckyTown

4.Sad Eyes (not on the Lucky Town or Human Touch albums, but, recorded during these sessions)

5..If I Should Fall Behind

6.Real World (the Piano version he did on his Devils and Dust tour)

7.Book of Dreams

8.57 Channels

9.I Wish I Was Blind

10. Happy (same as #4, amazing song)

11.My Beautiful Reward

Pony Boy***

 

 

***Bonus Track

 

BORN IN THE USA (not a double album, but, this is the way it should have come out)

 

1. Born In the USA (the accoustic version...to bridge this album to Nebraska)

2. Murder Incorporated

3. Dancing in the Dark

4. I'm Going Down

5. Frankie

6. I'm On Fire

7. This Hard Land

8. Glory Days

9. Never Surrender

10. Bobby Jean

11. My Hometown

12. Downbound Train

13. Brothers Under The Bridge

 

THE RIVER

 

1. The Ties That Bind

2. Two Hearts

3. Hungry Heart

4. Out in the Street

5. Independence Day

6. The River

7. You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch)

8. Point Blank

9. Cadillac Ranch

10. Fade Away

11. Stolen Car

12. Roulette (not on original album)

13. Drive All Night

14. Wreck on the Highway

 

 

I'd really try to fit "Price You Pay" on there somewhere, possibly by booting "You Can Look..." even though I like that song live.

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I too will attempt the White Album, with one very slight difference being that I will include at least one song by every Beatle (which essentially means "Don't Pass Me By" got in by default).

 

1. Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except for Me and My Monkey

2. Mother Nature's Son

3. I'm So Tired

4. Martha My Dear

5. While My Guitar Gently Weeps

6. Cry Baby Cry

7. Helter Skelter

8. Yer Blues

9. Dear Prudence

10. Don't Pass Me By

11. Sexy Sadie

12. Rocky Raccoon

13. Happiness is a Warm Gun

14. I Will

15. Blackbird

 

So, about an even split between Lennon and McCartney with one Harrison song and one Starr song. "Back in the USSR" should probably be in there somewhere too but I couldn't particularly decide on where, and the same goes for "Savoy Truffle."

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Ringo's done a lot of shit, but "Don't Pass Me By" and "Good Night" I really, really like. They seemed to be hated almost as much as "Rocky Raccoon" in some circles, however.

 

I'm fond of both songs. "Goodnight" is another song that I was considering including but decided that it didn't really fit in anywhere other than as the final track, and I didn't really want to put it there.

 

And I have to echo the sentiment on "Rocky Raccoon." I think it's one of McCartney's better songs on the first disc.

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Any iteration of the White Album that doesn't have "Julia" on it is pretty much worthless.

 

I've never really seen the appeal of "Julia," myself. It's nice enough but it's never really grabbed me, unlike much of the other songs Lennon wrote on that album. Like, I can see the appeal but it's never worked for me.

 

As for "Rocky Raccoon," it could have been worse. It could have been "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da."

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:fight2:

 

It's just a really bad Dylan imitation, with an obnoxious opening. Obviously, it's not the only pastiche on the album (McCartney alone one-ups this song with "Back in the USSR" at the start of the album), but it's the worst of the lot by a long shot, going so far over the top with sweet, sugary honky tonk that it makes my teeth hurt. It's been said in other discussions in this folder, and it applies here: you can't really get worse than a bad parody.

 

As for "Julia", that one's all about context - if you don't catch that Lennon is writing about finally moving on from his mother's death and embracing love with Yoko Ono, then it's just a slow acoustic song that immediately follows another acoustic song in "I Will". (Probably the only hiccup in sequencing on the whole album, really.)

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I wish that "I Will" was longer. The less than 2 minutes of the song that actually exist are excellent, and I can't help but think the brief running time hampers what could have been a classic song.

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It's a slow day at work, so I'll take a shot at the White Album. The double album thrives off of its variety and eccentricity - there was really nowhere else for the Beatles to go after Sgt. Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour - so cutting it down to a palatable single album is a pretty rough exercise.

 

SIDE ONE (26:40)

Back in the USSR (2:43 - McCartney)

While My Guitar Gently Weeps (4:45 - Harrison)

Helter Skelter (4:29 - McCartney)

Glass Onion (2:17 - Lennon)

Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Di (3:08 - McCartney)

Dear Prudence (3:56 - Lennon)

Long, Long, Long (3:04 - Harrison)

Blackbird (2:18 - McCartney)

 

SIDE TWO (28:56, 20:34 w/out hidden track)

Yer Blues (4:01 - Lennon)

Mother Nature's Son (2:48 - McCartney)

Savoy Truffle (2:54 - Harrison)

I'm So Tired (2:03 - Lennon)

Julia (2:54 - Lennon)

Good Night (3:11 - Lennon [vocalist: Ringo])

Happiness Is A Warm Gun (2:43 - Lennon)

Revolution 9 [hidden track] (8:22 - Lennon)

 

You get about 47 minutes of music out of 15 listed tracks on the album, 7 for Lennon (one of which is sung by Ringo), 5 for McCartney, 3 for Harrison. At first, I sliced out all of the overtly gimmick tracks ("Bungalow Bill", "Rocky Raccoon", "Birthday", "Wild Honey Pie"), tracks that were redundant ("Cry Baby Cry", "Sexy Sadie", "I Will"), tracks that were retreads of older material ("Honey Pie", "Revolution 1") and tracks that were weaker throwaways ("Why Don't We Do It In The Road", "Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me And My Monkey", "Don't Pass Me By"). "Piggies" and "Martha My Dear" were my final cuts from that mix.

 

I think this sequence has some teeth to it - all of the real heavy rockers are left around, but the quieter moments left over are the real strong ones from the original album. "Glass Onion" retains some of the original White Album's self-referential leanings, while other parts of the album mirror back to Sgt. Pepper's layout; "Good Night" offers a similar faux conclusion as the Sgt. Pepper reprise, "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" works as Lennon's strong final track, and "Revolution 9" stands in as a more sinister evolution of the laughing/conversation loop at the end of the album. Both sides even work by the LP standard, which is limited to about 30 minutes of playtime on each side. (Like I said, a slow day at work.)

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As for "Julia", that one's all about context - if you don't catch that Lennon is writing about finally moving on from his mother's death and embracing love with Yoko Ono, then it's just a slow acoustic song that immediately follows another acoustic song in "I Will". (Probably the only hiccup in sequencing on the whole album, really.)

 

Yeah, that's always been my problem. Part of it is the terrible sequencing ("I Will" may not have as much lyrical depth but it's much catchier and it keeps my attention easier), but it also has to do with the fact that I never caught that it was about something more than just his mother, and I'll admit I've never listened closely to the lyrics. I'll give it another listen with that in mind later tonight.

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I might as well jump on the White Album bandwagon.

 

 

1. Back in the USSR

2. Dear Prudence

3. While My Guitar Gently Weeps

4. I'm So Tired

5. Sexy Sadie

6. Savoy Truffle

7. Martha My Dear

8. Helter Skelter

9. Don't Pass Me By

10. Blackbird

11. The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill

12. Long, Long, Long

13. Happiness is a Warm Gun

14. Julia

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Pink Floyd's The Wall (1 disc version)

 

In The Flesh (3:16)

Another Brick In The Wall 1 (3:21)

The Happiest Days Of Our Lives (1:46)

Another Brick In The Wall 2 (4:00)

Goodbye Blue Sky (2:45)

Young Lust (3:25)

Another Brick In The Wall 3 (1:48)

Hey You (4:40)

Vera (1:35)

Bring The Boys Back Home (1:21)

Comfortably Numb (6:24)

The Show Must Go On (1:36)

In The Flesh (4:13)

Run Like Hell (4:19)

Stop (0:30)

The Trial (5:13)

Outside The Wall (1:41)

 

52 minutes total, down from 1 hour 20 minutes

 

 

Editing this one is a natural choice, as a lot of the music is good but Roger Waters made this overly auto-biographical at the expense of the album's flow.

 

This cuts out tracks I either find redundant (The Thin Ice, Empty Spaces, Nobody Home, One Of My Turns, Don't Leave Me Now) or think they just plain suck (Mother).

 

Goodbye Cruel World (0:48) was cut because it only fits if it's at the end of a side or an album. Having a single-album version makes putting this between Brick In The Wall 3 and Hey You unnecessary.

 

 

 

Thoughts?

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Here's what I would do to the Wall if I had to cut it down, but I don't feel it's necessary. I would not but on all three Another Bricks, but it would go something like this.

 

1) In The Flesh? 3:17

2) The Thin Ice 2:28

3) The Happiest Days of Our Lives 1:20

4) Another Brick Pt. II 3:56

5) Mother 5:32

6) Goodbye Blue Skies 2:48

7) Hey You 4:39

8) Nobody Home 3:25

9) Comfortable Numb 6:49

10) In The Flesh 1:36

11) The Trial 5:16

12) Outside the Wall 1:42

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Jay-Z's Kingdom Come cut down to EP length. It still wouldn't be that great.

 

1. Prelude

2. Kingdom Come

3. Lost One

4. Minority Report

5. Beach Chair

 

Dipset's Diplomatic Immunity Vol. 1 really doesn't need to be two CDs.

 

1. I Really Mean It

2. Ground Zero

3. Dipset Anthem

4. More Than Music

5. Real Niggas

6. Beautiful Noise

7. This Is What I Do

8. I Love You

9. The First

10. Juelz Santana The Great

11. Gangsta

12. DJ Enuff Freestyle

13. We Built This City

HIDDEN BONUS TRACK: Hell Rell Freestyle

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Lil Jon - Entire Career

 

Put Yo Hood Up

Move Bitch

I Like Dem Girlz (Remix)

Bia' Bia'

Nothins Free

Who U Wit

Get Low

What You Gon' Do

Real Nigga Roll Call

Lovers & Friends

Snap Ya Fingers

What You Gon' Do (Remix)

Get Low (Remix)

Put Yo Hood Up (Remix)

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STOP TRYING TO EDIT THE WHITE ALBUM!!!!!!

 

sorry. i didnt realise tsm had punctured rusty hooks into your eye lids & forced you to read this thread. for a teacher, you're not very tolerant. you're intolerant to a fault. dare i say you're being a jerk.

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STOP TRYING TO EDIT THE WHITE ALBUM!!!!!!

 

sorry. i didnt realise tsm had punctured rusty hooks into your eye lids & forced you to read this thread. for a teacher, you're not very tolerant. you're intolerant to a fault. dare i say you're being a jerk.

 

For a random guy I've never heard of posting on an internet message board, you seem like someone who is unable to comprehend the difference between an enthusiastic, yet facetious, comment intended to make a point, and an actual attempt at commanding people to do my bidding. Also, by claiming that if I do not agree with the attempts to edit the White Album I should not be reading this thread, you are being intolerant of my right to disagree or offer criticism of other's opinions.

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I agree with SuperJerk. The thread is called "Let's edit bloated double albums." The White Album is NOT a bloated double album. Neither is Exile on Main Street or Physical Graffiti. These albums would lose all their mystique if edited to one disc. The sprawling mess is what made them special in the first place.

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