Add Kansas to the list of states...

[Slayer]

Banning gay marriage, as the anti-gay marriage amendment referendum sits at 75-25 right now with 30% of precincts reporting, and I don't imagine the margin getting much slimmer

 

Yeah, I know, big surprise, coming from the middle of the bible belt, but I thought I'd post about it here anyway (holy crap, Slayer making a serious post in CE? What the hell is going on)

[Your Paragon of Virtue]

They're banning gay marriage, but is there anything about leaving things open for civil unions?

[Vyce]

Well, it's all part of living in RED STATE America.

[Slayer]

They're banning gay marriage, but is there anything about leaving things open for civil unions?

No, that's banned under the same amendment

[Spaceman Spiff]

Yeah, there was an article in yesterday's Philly Inquirer about this. It would ban gay marriage, and rule out civil unions & any other benefits associated.

 

And how does banning gay marriage protect traditional marriage? It's not a "1 or the other" deal.

[Slayer]

That was one of the things I kept asking (as a libertarian, I voted against it)

 

All the ads run for the amendment were pretty much driving home the religious perspective and protecting the "sanctity of marriage". I would respond by saying "If it passes, are straight married couples any more married than they were before? Do they really gain anything from the passage?"

 

Other than the apparent peace of mind knowing that them homos can't marry, I would say not

[CanadianChick]

I don't know, but I think the whole statistic of about half of all marriages ending in divorce is a lot more damaging to the sanctity of marriage than two men or two women marrying each other. Maybe it's just me though.

[Guest Brian]

Is Kansas still the "most radical state in the Union"?

[Rob E Dangerously]

Well, Missouri had a higher percentage of people voting Yes on the marriage amendment than Kansas.

 

But Douglas County (Lawrence, Kansas) voted no by a huge margin, 63-37 against the amendment

[Jobber of the Week]

Why the hell was this necessary? As they say, "The last gay thing that happened in Kansas was The Wizard of Oz."

[Vyce]

Whew, thank god.

 

It's just so comforting to know that, despite all of the myriad of problems that this society is facing on many different fronts, at least the fags can't marry one another.

 

I, for one, shall sleep in peace and tranquility tonight.

[kkktookmybabyaway]

Don't worry, Slayer. Some red diaper doper baby judge will overrule this and you and Loss will no longer have to live in sin (well, at least not as much sin, anyway...)

[Slayer]

I'll be sure to save spots at the altar for you and DrTom

[kkktookmybabyaway]

Dr. Tom? Oh hell no. If I ever turn queer I would have to be the butch of the relationship.

 

*Checks out MikeSC.*

 

And although I'd vote against gay marriage in PA if it should ever appear on a ballot, I have to wonder exactly how many homosexual couples live in Kansas, sans Human/Animal relationships of course.

 

EDIT: Just heard on Paul Harvey News that the final tally was 71 percent voting against Bob and Jim getting married...

[SuperJerk]

The final tally was 71%-29%.

 

I heard an interesting statistic (no, I have no source on this) that there were about 20 states that still allow first cousins to marry.

 

I'm starting to wonder which remaining states would be willing to ban THAT if it was ever put to a vote.

[The Czech Republic]

I don't know, but I think the whole statistic of about half of all marriages ending in divorce is a lot more damaging to the sanctity of marriage than two men or two women marrying each other. Maybe it's just me though.

I'm getting tired of this line. Isn't it possible that neither is good, and everybody is playing a part in shitting on the intended institution?

[Spaceman Spiff]

2 people in love getting married is bad for marriage?

[Ripper]

I don't know, but I think the whole statistic of about half of all marriages ending in divorce is a lot more damaging to the sanctity of marriage than two men or two women marrying each other. Maybe it's just me though.

I'm getting tired of this line. Isn't it possible that neither is good, and everybody is playing a part in shitting on the intended institution?

I can't be able to say "Don't let them in the pool...they will piss in the water." while I am standing there pissing in the water.

 

This line is relevant because the "sanctity of marrige" is the "non-biblical" reason being given to be against gay marriage and well....its a bullshit stance. Straight people are fucking up the sanctity of marrige.

[Nighthawk]

It's about money. Morality is just posturing.

[Ripper]

If they say its about money I would respect them more. hell,might even vote against the whole marriage thing just because the other side showed honesty.

[SuperJerk]

How is this about money?

 

Power, I can understand (politicians using this as an issue to distract people from other stuff)...but I don't see the connection to money.

 

Someone please explain.

[Rob E Dangerously]

Conservatives are giving Gay people tax breaks by not allowing them to be married to each other, because if they were, they would be subject to a marriage tax.

 

Nah, that's probably not it.

 

But it involves a lot of benefits.

 

And in Kansas, they just voted to take benefits away from single people with kids by passing this amendment. Whoops

[Jingus]

There are a million things these days that corrupt the sanctity of marriage. I haven't seen a big push to ban quickie nuptials in Nevada recently, where (as Triple H demonstrated) you can actually get hitched at a drive-thru window. I'd say the "sanctity of marriage" argument is a straw man, but it's got so many holes in it that it's more like just an empty suit of clothes on a stick.

 

EDIT: and yeah, how is it about the money?

[Slayer]

I imagine the money issue comes from states being able to deny gay couples marriage tax breaks and companies being able to deny them extra bennies associated with marriage

 

Oh yeah, and as RobE pointed out, straight unmarried couples also get denied the same stuff under this amendment

[Guest CronoT]

I wonder how long it's going to be before someone at the top of the GOP grows a set of balls big enough to submit an amendment to the Constitution making homosexuality itself a crime, punishable by jail time?

 

Boy, there's a neverending cycle for ya....