Planned Summerslam Card

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Here is the current Summerslam card according to Meltzer:

 

WWE Title

John Cena © vs Chris Jericho

 

World Title

Batista © vs Hassan

 

HBK vs Hulk Hogan

 

Casket Match

Undertaker vs Randy Orton

 

Edge and Snitsky vs Kane and Matt Hardy

 

US Title

Chris Benoit © vs JBL

 

IC Title Street Fight

Carltio © vs Shelton Benjamin

 

Big Show vs Kurt Angle

 

The Final Match

Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio Jr.

 

 

Big meh overall for me. Much iof the mid-card is just the same stale mid-card matches we've been watching on RAW for a month now. I think Benoit and JBL could be good, but will probobly just be a car crash of two completely different styles. Anyone else think they might actually put the belt on Hassan?

[Guest Coffey]

I think they should put the belt on Hassan.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

A terrorist as the World Champion? Yep sounds like a Vince idea.

[Team Angle Pusher 0]

Batista/Hassan and Jericho/Cena as Title matches won't sell. As much as the internet likes Jericho and maybe Hassan as well (I do), the marks won't be tempted to buy it. Only maybe because it's Summerslam, just because of the name perhaps it'll get more buys then let's say Vengeance.

 

I would like to see Hassan as WWE Champion but the problem is would the WWE want an Arab-American to represent their big company and he just did the hooded men angle and he got bad publicity. I think Batista retains and it would be better for him to retain anyways so he can feud with Brock Lesnar.

 

I can see them putting the belt on Jericho and the smarks will mark out like little bitches but he'll get a sucky title reign of like 1 or 2 months and then Cena wins it back.

 

HBK/Hogan will probably be the money match of the PPV but the match will be a DUD. Hogan wil stall a lot and I hope HBK wins so he can go for the World Title and have some good matches with Batista before Lesnar arrives.

 

Taker/Orton is fine by me but why a Casket match....just make it a Hardcore match and they'll tear the roof off. Possibly a money match, I want to see this match.

 

Edge and Snitsky v. Kane and Matt Hardy seems logical to me but it would suck. People want to see Matt Hardy against Edge, singles match at the second biggest PPV of the year, not a stupid tag match with two guys I don't give a shit about. Snitsky is good for laughs but not credible and Kane is boring as fuck. Hell, just do Carlito against Kane and The Big Show and Kurt Angle against Shelton Benjamin. Big Show turns Heel and feuds with Kane, voila!

 

Benoit/JBL, thank god yes. This will make the US Title a good title again, a high profile feud for the belt. I would love to see the match because I like both men and Benoit will pull a good match out of JBL for sure.

 

Carlito/Benjamin makes sense but they are ruining it by putting the match so much on RAW. Will be a good match to see probably with Shelton Benjamin winning. I hope to see Shelton/Angle though, now THAT would be a money match, better then HBK/Angle in terms of wrestling quality for sure.

 

Big Show/Angle, we've seen this million times last year on SMACKDOWN!. Don't think we forgot what they did on SD!.

 

Eddie G./Mysterio, good, will be a fine match.

 

NO TAG TITLES MATCH?! Hey I don't care about World Tag Titles but at least have MNM defend them!!

[Guest BrokenWings]

Edge and Snitsky vs Kane and Matt Hardy

 

Other than this match, I'm completely satisfied with this card. Edge/Hardy should obviously be a one on one encounter, as I don't know if it will have the steam to last until SurSer, which is what I'm assuming they're shooting for.

 

I guess they just painted themselves into a corner by not wanting to have two street fight / "non-sanctioned" matches on the card.

[Aero 0]

Is Kane really THAT important that he can't miss a PPV? No one wants a tag match. There's no reason why such a big match like Hardy-Edge shouldn't be on the second biggest show of the year.

 

WWE writing team: (April) "The draft lottery is going shake things up!" (August) "We need a feud for Kurt Angle... how about Big Show?" Seriously, didn't we see enough of this feud between October and January?

 

I have no real problems with the rest of the card other than just not being interested in HBK-Hogan, Batista-Hassan, or Shelton-Carlito. It's a good thing they brought Christian to Smackdown for that push.. oh wait.

[Team Angle Pusher 0]

Why not go all out and have Benoit v. JBL v. Booker T v. Christian for the US Title.

 

Kane can't miss a PPV but Booker T and Christian can? Bullshit

[zyn081 0]

Batista/Hassan and Jericho/Cena as Title matches won't sell. As much as the internet likes Jericho and maybe Hassan as well (I do), the marks won't be tempted to buy it. Only maybe because it's Summerslam, just because of the name perhaps it'll get more buys then let's say Vengeance.

 

I would like to see Hassan as WWE Champion but the problem is would the WWE want an Arab-American to represent their big company and he just did the hooded men angle and he got bad publicity. I think Batista retains and it would be better for him to retain anyways so he can feud with Brock Lesnar.

 

I can see them putting the belt on Jericho and the smarks will mark out like little bitches but he'll get a sucky title reign of like 1 or 2 months and then Cena wins it back.

 

HBK/Hogan will probably be the money match of the PPV but the match will be a DUD. Hogan wil stall a lot and I hope HBK wins so he can go for the World Title and have some good matches with Batista before Lesnar arrives.

 

Taker/Orton is fine by me but why a Casket match....just make it a Hardcore match and they'll tear the roof off. Possibly a money match, I want to see this match.

 

Edge and Snitsky v. Kane and Matt Hardy seems logical to me but it would suck. People want to see Matt Hardy against Edge, singles match at the second biggest PPV of the year, not a stupid tag match with two guys I don't give a shit about. Snitsky is good for laughs but not credible and Kane is boring as fuck. Hell, just do Carlito against Kane and The Big Show and Kurt Angle against Shelton Benjamin. Big Show turns Heel and feuds with Kane, voila!

 

Benoit/JBL, thank god yes. This will make the US Title a good title again, a high profile feud for the belt. I would love to see the match because I like both men and Benoit will pull a good match out of JBL for sure.

 

Carlito/Benjamin makes sense but they are ruining it by putting the match so much on RAW. Will be a good match to see probably with Shelton Benjamin winning. I hope to see Shelton/Angle though, now THAT would be a money match, better then HBK/Angle in terms of wrestling quality for sure.

 

Big Show/Angle, we've seen this million times last year on SMACKDOWN!. Don't think we forgot what they did on SD!.

 

Eddie G./Mysterio, good, will be a fine match.

 

NO TAG TITLES MATCH?! Hey I don't care about World Tag Titles but at least have MNM defend them!!

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I dont think Hassan will win given whats happened lately, nor will I put it past the WWE to make Jericho win to look weaker than he already is down the line.

 

How can HBK fued with Batista? They are on different shows?

 

My sentiments exactly regarding UT-Orton. The Casket Match stip has never really be good lately and who is going to pop out of the casket?

 

I knew they would go that Tag route with Edge and Matt, which is very dumb IMHO. CCC-Shelton should be over by then.

 

We want Benoit-Regal dammit. TBS-Angle, TBS-Angle, TBS-Angle!!!!!! Is that the best they come up with? How many times have we seen this already? And people here say that pulling Angle-Shelton at SS is dumb.

 

There are no Tag Team matches for the simple reason that there is no tag team division on either show. The Draft and subsequent trade squashed them.

 

And what makes SummerSlam the 2nd biggest PPV of the year? I hope your referring to it time wise after WM and not in terms of size. SS comes after WM, RR, KotR (when it was running) and SurSer IMHO.

 

Edge and Snitsky vs Kane and Matt Hardy

 

Other than this match, I'm completely satisfied with this card. Edge/Hardy should obviously be a one on one encounter, as I don't know if it will have the steam to last until SurSer, which is what I'm assuming they're shooting for.

 

I guess they just painted themselves into a corner by not wanting to have two street fight / "non-sanctioned" matches on the card.

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Very simple answer, scrap the CCC-Benjamin match by blowing it on RAW earlier and getting it out of the way, and doing Angle-Shelton. CCC doesnt have to be on the card.

[zyn081 0]

Is Kane really THAT important that he can't miss a PPV? No one wants a tag match. There's no reason why such a big match like Hardy-Edge shouldn't be on the second biggest show of the year.

 

WWE writing team: (April) "The draft lottery is going shake things up!" (August) "We need a feud for Kurt Angle... how about Big Show?" Seriously, didn't we see enough of this feud between October and January?

 

I have no real problems with the rest of the card other than just not being interested in HBK-Hogan, Batista-Hassan, or Shelton-Carlito. It's a good thing they brought Christian to Smackdown for that push.. oh wait.

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No hes not. He can miss it. Again, what makes this the 2nd biggest show of the year?!?!?!?!?!?

 

Weve had Angle-TBS loads of times, like for a year on-off when Brock was still on SD.

 

Why not go all out and have Benoit v. JBL v. Booker T v. Christian for the US Title.

 

Kane can't miss a PPV but Booker T and Christian can? Bullshit

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Did anybody see Benoit-Regal? Is pretty clear the way its got to go. Put JBL in a Triple Threat for the WHC, I dont care. Have Booker and Christian on Heat.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

No hes not. He can miss it. Again, what makes this the 2nd biggest show of the year?!?!?!?!?!? 

 

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Because Summerslam IS the #2 PPV of the WWE PPV calendar. It has always been. Although in drawing ability the Royal Rumble has surpassed Summerslam, but as far as signficance goes, its Mania, Summerslam, Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, King of Ring (to rate the now defunct KOTR over Summerslam is asinine, with their horrible cards in the past.... King Mabel anyone?)

[Dangerous A 0]

I think they should put the belt on Hassan.

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Hassan should not have the belt for the simple fact that he sucks so bad in the ring. They already have one champ stinking it up in the ring right now (Cena) and Batista is barely passable, so they really don't need to bring ME's to WCW-late 90's level by putting the belt on Hassan.

[Aero 0]

I really think they should just extend Summerslam from 3 to 4 hours. Ever since the brand split PPVs in 2003, it's been hard to equally fit both Raw & Smackdown onto a single 3 hour Summerslam. The Rumble gets everyone in the Rumble match, WM is 4-5 hours each year, and Survivor Series can always just have a few eight man tags.

 

Summerslam 03 had such an overload of feuds that they had to do an Elimination Chamber to cram Raw's three main feuds into one. Guys left off the card were Christian (IC Champ), TWGTT (Tag Team Champs), Rey Mysterio (Cruiserweight Champ, was on Heat), and John Cena among others.

 

Summerslam 04 was nowhere near as difficult to fit everyone on the card. The only person I can really think of that was left off was RVD. This year, if that's the final card, Christian, Booker T, MNM, London, Mexicools, and Hurricane & Rosey are all missing. But, that ONE LAST Hogan match must happen.

 

 

As for the two title matches, I predict that one title will change hands mid-show, and the other champion will retain to end the show and send the fans home happy. It can realistically go either way, but I'll pick Jericho to win the title, and for Batista to retain. Sure, Hassan is creating alot of controversy and is a really hated heel, but he doesn't deserve a world title run. He really just bores me to tears, so far.

[Fökai 0]

The proposed card shows how a depleted tag team roster affects the rest of the card - each brand has about six feuds that works well on its own brand show, but a co-brand pay-per-view?

 

Quick thoughts:

 

1. Hey, Benoit/JBL will be a great match. That said, unless they book Benoit to add prestiege to the title to make JBL jealous of said reign, I don't see how their feud would work in the scheme of the show.

 

2. You know, had JBL/Taker not been done to death last fall, it would've been great to see JBL/Taker and Benoit/Christian for the title on this card; it's really pointless to have such a match of closure to continue a feud like Taker/Orton.

 

3. It's already been said, but Snitsky and Kane are needlessly tacked on to a match that shouldn't be more than a fucking brawl. Now, with the two added on, you add restraints to Edge/Hardy with a formulaic tag-team match, which just punishes the rest of the card. Before, Edge/Hardy could've been the match that opened the card, then lasted throughout the whole night as a backstage brawl. Now, you have potentially great matches (Rey/Eddie, JBL/Benoit, Orton/Taker) fighting for time because you've devoted twelve minutes to Kane and FUCKING SNITSKY.

 

5. MNM and the Superheroes should at LEAST be fighting each other for bragging rights of the company. Even if it ends with a schmozz finish, you have a great buzz coming from the match.

 

6. If not the match, then have CCC drop the title to Shelton (leading to Angle/Shelton), then have Carlito do a Cabana segment at Summerslam that leads to a confrontation between MNM and the Superheroes. Focusing on Carlito's mic work and charisma, his obvious strengths, will have fans clamoring for that segment over Carlito/Shelton and TBS/Angle.

[humongous2002 0]

I bet that either RVD/Dupree or XIAN/Book will headline Heat before the p.p.v.

[RedJed 0]

I have a really hard time accepting a Kane/Hardy v. Edge/Snitsky match at the ppv. The answer is obvious - you take the street fight from Carlito-Benjamin proposed match and have it a singles Hardy/Edge match, that is what would draw interest. Fuckin unbelievable shit there. They're already dropping the ball on this, and now instead of them doing some logical thing like I mentioned before and at least playing Hardy against Kane based off of past storylines, they ARE going to play the worked shoot into ongoing storylines as well and TEAM Hardy and Kane together, this is after Kane basically raped Lita, married her, and in storyline fashion, put Hardy out of commission? It makes no fucking sense!

 

Hassan v. Batista should not be the world title match, period. I can see why they think it will draw though - the terrorist controversy, the fact that its also in Washington DC plays up against it, but Hassan could have just as easy have challenged Benoit for the US title and had him play off subtly against the weird "Americana" ego of JBL and made that US title match a three way. Batista then could take on Lesnar at SummerSlam, which is the only opponent Batista is going to draw against potentially right now. This in itself is a major problem facing Smackdown right now - little or no credible heel opponents to feed to Batista at the second biggest show of the year.

 

So I guess we get Angle v. Show (what a fucking waste) instead of Flair v. HHH huh? Oh joy...

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

I think Kane/Snitsky are there in order to protect both men from this fight getting out of hand.

[RedJed 0]

I think Kane/Snitsky are there in order to protect both men from this fight getting out of hand.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

You;re making it sound like Hardy and Edge are actually shooting all of the time, they aren't!!

 

BTW, I myself didnt see this announced lineup in this week's Observer, so this might not even be a real released lineup from Meltzer. Can anyone verify further?

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WWE Title

John Cena © vs Chris Jericho

 

Should be pretty bad, given that Cena sucks and Jericho hasn't been in a great match since 2002-is. I don't think Jericho is much of a ring general either, so if this goes longer than fifteen minutes...ugh.

 

World Title

Batista © vs Hassan

 

Eh. Somewhat decent idea considering it's in Washington DC. Match will probably be pretty bad.

 

HBK vs Hulk Hogan

I'm somewhat interested to see this. I'm not sure if HBK has the offense to make the "heel beatdown" part of the match interesting. Probably a blah match with a somewhat hot finish.

 

Casket Match

Undertaker vs Randy Orton

Their match at Mania was better than expected, but still not a classic. **-ish area.

 

Edge and Snitsky vs Kane and Matt Hardy

Why why why why why! If I have to see Kane and Edge in the same ring again after SummerSlam I may explode. If this match happens then consider the Matt Hardy angle blown.

 

US Title

Chris Benoit © vs JBL

Somewhat interesting match. JBL would be a great worker if he just paced his matches a little better, and I think Benoit will help him do it. MOTN.

 

IC Title Street Fight

Carltio © vs Shelton Benjamin

Why why why why why! Nobody cares about this feud. The matches suck. The IC belt sucks. Stop putting these two chumps in the ring and expect people to care. If these two had ANY chemistry together I may be of a different mindset.

 

Big Show vs Kurt Angle

I see the draft has really boosted both guys' careers. Fucking brilliant. I'd rather see Show vs Masters (HEAT MATCH!) and Angle vs that jobber Styker for match #424 of their series.

 

The Final Match

Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio Jr.

ANOTHER match we've seen 234254 times. The WM match SUCKED. Their Smackdown match was better, and hopefully they'll go crazy here so this horrible angle can end and both can move on to other (better?) things.

[snuffbox 0]

August looks like a pretty weak month for ppv...Summerslam (if this lineup is legit) is damn weak, TNA is returning JJ to the main event apparently, and Hasim Rahman and Monte Barrett are somehow headlinig a boxing card. Ugh.

[Guest JMA]

Why don't they just have Matt Hardy "injure" both Kane and Snitsky, thus keeping them out of the angle? It would, first of all, get them out of the angle, and secondly, it would make Matt come off as even more of a "loose cannon."

[Fro 0]

Looks like everyone else besides those 20 guys gets no payday... too bad!

 

*WAY* too many singles matches.

[Team Angle Pusher 0]

Fact is they are not realizing they should have made more stars two years ago when Triple H was having long ass World Title reigns. Muhammad Hassan? He has won most of his matches by DQ or cheating. Chris Jericho? Just lost a fucking feud to Shelton Benjamin over the IC Title, why could he beat John Cena? Cena doesn't have any credible contenders other then Triple H because HHH put himself over everybody but HHH got lost to Batista 3 times in a row and we are sick of him on TV. You have Kurt Angle who has lost to Cena at No Way Out and has to me not enough coredibility for the WWE Title. Then you have HBK. Now that would be a great contender if he beats Hogan and STAYS Heel. Hell, he can even beat Cena and then face guys like The Big Show and Kane until he drops it back to Cena (might even be a WrestleMania match). SD! has Christian who needs to be build up for like 5 months with wins to look like a credible threat, Booker T should be in tag team division, JBL has been done too much and needs to go for US Title, Benoit is US Champ although it would be cool for him to have like a Title versus Title feud out of respect for each other, Eddie Guerrero might be good if he beats Rey Mysterio but he has already lost to Rey like 4 times without Rey cheating. Undertaker should never come near the WWE Title. Randy Orton is a future champ but busy with Taker and needs to beat Taker. It looks like RAW needs a Heel to be the Champion. Cena needs to chase with Kane, Big Show maybe even Triple H. On SD! I'd rather have Orton take the belt away from Batista after Summerslam.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

WWE Title

John Cena © vs Chris Jericho

 

Unless they can find a way for Cena to catch Jericho on his shoulders after a Lionsault, I don't really see this being very good. I like both wrestlers and think they are capable of putting a **** match together, but Jericho isn't a strong enough wrestler (in terms of how he is presented) to convincingly put Cena on the defensive. I imagine they'll do an injury angle sometime soon to help Jericho out, but no one will buy a potential title change.

 

World Title

Batista © vs Hassan

 

Well this is an awful match. Batista squashed Hassan a few months ago - how can Hassan be a threat to Batista? Why is Hassan getting a #1 contenders shot? Who has he beaten??? Wouldn't he be better off with the US title first? Maybe if they pair Hassan and Orton up, and this is just leading to Batista/Orton, I could buy this match existing. Otherwise, they are overvaluing the heat Hassan is getting.

 

HBK vs Hulk Hogan

 

I think this match could be really good with HBK bumping like a freak for Hogan. Both guys have really good pacing, so the crowd heat should be sustained for the entire match. It will be interesting to see where they put this, as given the rest of the card, it should be the main event.

 

Casket Match

Undertaker vs Randy Orton

 

Their match at Mania was good, but the Casket stip won't help the match any. This would be better as a HIAC... Taker can't be happy that HHH already played that card this year. Didn't they have a Casket match at the rumble, anyways? There has to be a better gimmick than this.

 

Edge and Snitsky vs Kane and Matt Hardy

 

Awful. If they do this, Hardy shouldn't even show.

 

US Title

Chris Benoit © vs JBL

 

Good feud, bad title. This won't elevate the belt, it will just bring both guys down. This is the 4th most important match *ON SMACKDOWN*. How is that good for either guy who, this time last year, was main eventing?? Me thinks creative couldn't think of a single thing for either guy to do and just put them together, OR, they wanted the two to feud but couldn't think of a reason for them to fight. Stupid, stupid, stupid WWE. Bah. This could be match of the night, nevertheless.

 

I echo the Regal sentiment, though. I think Regal/JBL/Benoit could make for an awesome feud - who's the toughest motherfucker on Smackdown. You could carry it on till 2006.

 

IC Title Street Fight

Carltio © vs Shelton Benjamin

 

Dear god why? Every match I've seen between the two has been bad, or worse, boring.

 

Big Show vs Kurt Angle

 

Whuh? I assume Big Show will first beat the Masterlock Challenge, and then take Kurts Gold Medals?

 

The Final Match

Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio Jr.

 

Who fucking cares? Bad Feud.

[Guest JMA]

I have a feeling that WWE will give Hassan the U.S. title instead of the World title. Remember how he's been talking about being the only true patriot in America?

[Guest Y2DAYDAY]

Meltzer didn't have this rumored card in this week's Observer. All he said was it is Hogan vs HBK, Cena vs Jericho, probably Batista vs Hassan but he said it wasn't based on inside information, just logic, and probably a confrontation with Matt Hardy and Edge.

 

Unless I missed something in the 24 page beast but I doubt it.

[RedJed 0]

Meltzer didn't have this rumored card in this week's Observer.  All he said was it is Hogan vs HBK, Cena vs Jericho, probably Batista vs Hassan but he said it wasn't based on inside information, just logic, and probably a confrontation with Matt Hardy and Edge.

 

Unless I missed something in the 24 page beast but I doubt it.

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Yeah I just breezed through it again and its definately not in the current issue. So basically everything here is probably BS anyway as far as the card goes. Oy vey!! Although in WWE logic, it certainly makes sense too.

[cbacon 0]

They should hold off a Hardy/Edge match for at least a few more months. Have Snitksy and Kane (whom Hardy should still have heat with) act as roadblocks until then. Hardy could cost Edge his money and the bank shot (at Unforgiven perhaps) to further the angle.

[tekcop 0]

JBL/Benoit should go about 30 minutes. I don't really care about anything else.

[Black Lushus 0]

No...Hardy/Edge has to happen as Summerslam...this little goofy angle will lose steam eventually if they keep putting it off...have a bloody no finish kind of match at SSlam, have Edge finish him off at whatever Raw PPV is next, then give Hardy the boot (I just say that because I'm positive he's toast the second his popularity wains)...

[natey2k4 0]

No Christian eh?

 

No order from me then.