I got called unAmerican by my Dean,

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Everyone stop having views.

[Guest FromBeyondTheGrave]

Moving elsewhere is not exactly difficult. You can always go elsewhere.

Jobs/girlfriend/friends/family/etc.

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Unrelated, but when did people get in their heads that moving somewhere else or going off for a while was always a quick, easy thing to do? People have lives, man. Don't tell someone to move away because they don't like something about an area where they live. Don't tell someone "you should travel for a while." Who the fuck can afford (financially and practically) to just go off for an indiscriminate amount of time?

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I wasn't aware anyone did the Pledge in high school. We didn't do it once.

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[Nighthawk 0]

No, because "taking the name of God in vain" implies using God in a negative context,

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Actually, that's not true, but anyone legalistic enough to apply that to the pledge should know that it refers to God's Hebrew name. "God" isn't really God's name.

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I just called the Indiana branch of the ACLU and they informed that the school can not make me stand and that they would get back to me.

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[Guest MikeSC]

Moving elsewhere is not exactly difficult. You can always go elsewhere.

Jobs/girlfriend/friends/family/etc.

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If you're too lazy to actually follow your beliefs, don't gripe to others.

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I wasn't aware anyone did the Pledge in high school. We didn't do it once.

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last time I did the pledge was in 8th grade...never did it in HS, and I'm 30 so way back then the country hadn't gotten quite as crazy over the whole deal yet...

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No, because "taking the name of God in vain" implies using God in a negative context,

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Actually, that's not true, but anyone legalistic enough to apply that to the pledge should know that it refers to God's Hebrew name. "God" isn't really God's name.

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But to American Christians, "God" is God's name. It would obviously be more offensive to Joe Protestant to use the word "God" flippantly (as is done in Tyler's version of the pledge) than to use the word "Yahweh" or whatever the Hebrew word is flippantly.

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Not really. "God" isn't a proper name as much as it's a descriptive term. Catholics, for example, hold little reverence to the term "God". We hold it for "the Father" or "Jesus", but "God" is more used in descriptive terms.

 

But, it's cute that you're assuming that with your vast knowledge of theology, you know exactly what you're talking about.

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Not really. "God" isn't a proper name as much as it's a descriptive term. Catholics, for example, hold little reverence to the term "God". We hold it for "the Father" or "Jesus", but "God" is more used in descriptive terms.

 

But, it's cute that you're assuming that with your vast knowledge of theology, you know exactly what you're talking about.

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Why are you being such a prick?

 

I never claimed to be an expert in theology. But I was raised in a Southern Baptist church and was a devout Christian for about 10 years. And I know that the word "God" is meaningful to a lot of American Christians.

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Aw, man. Tyler, you're a Catholic?

 

Christ, you and Mrs. Tyler will be popping out little commies left and right...

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

But you're assuming that this makes the pledge offensive or something, and that's retarded.

 

You act like Christians are some stuck up lot that is offended by the smallest little thing. God is a descriptive term, why the hell would we be offended by the pledge? Just becuase we, also, refer to him as God doesn't mean that we're offended by other religions who agree that, somewhere up there, there's a God. You're making ridiculous assumptions to support your barely-cogent argument, and that's why I'm being a prick.

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Mrs. Tyler is a Lutheran, btw. She doesn't want (many) kids

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But you're assuming that this makes the pledge offensive or something, and that's retarded.

 

You act like Christians are some stuck up lot that is offended by the smallest little thing. God is a descriptive term, why the hell would we be offended by the pledge? Just becuase we, also, refer to him as God doesn't mean that we're offended by other religions who agree that, somewhere up there, there's a God. You're making ridiculous assumptions to support your barely-cogent argument, and that's why I'm being a prick.

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I was really just arguing a hypothetical.

 

I never criticized Christians, I don't know what made you think that. I never said that Christians were stuck up or easily offended. I didn't even say that they "should" be offended by the pledge.

 

I just suggested that, technically, given your take on the meaning of "Under God" in the pledge, that it amounted to taking the name of God in vain. I guess this bothers you. You're confusing an attack on the entanglement of government and religion with an attack on Christianity.

 

I disagree with your whole premise, anyway--that the phrase "Under God" is not an endorsement of religion.

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Mrs. Tyler is a Lutheran, btw. She doesn't want (many) kids

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So am I. Smart Girl. She'd be even smarter if she took out the "m" in "many."

 

Oddly enough, the better half is a Catholic.

 

Perhaps you are me in a parallel universe....

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So say you don't like paying taxes for a school system that isn't performing, you should leave America, yeah?

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So say you don't like paying taxes for a school system that isn't performing, you should leave America, yeah?

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It doesn't work that way, chave. Clearly, you're just too lazy and jaded by your professors and media to understand.

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Martin Luther was a rabid anti-semitic.

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Take that, Jews!

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Lesbians as well.

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[Guest cosbywasmurdered]

We've lost Tyler to the darkside.

[BX 0]

Moving elsewhere is not exactly difficult. You can always go elsewhere.

Jobs/girlfriend/friends/family/etc.

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The fact that he's in fucking grade school....

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I missed these Mike/BX pissing matches...

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EC DUB! EC DUB! EC DUB!

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Martin Luther was a rabid anti-semitic.

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But...but... in his "Letter from Birmingham Jail", he said he'd help his Jew brothers.

 

Are you saying a BLACK man lied?

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I believe some degree of confusion is present.

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I'm aware of which one he is referring to. Others though who visit this forum, probably are not and now you've ruined my hopes of having a MLK is not a anti-semite discussion.

 

 

Fucker.