Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 What's the Buentello rumour? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 My online bookie is offering 1/7 on a Tito win. I was thinking about sticking some money on but those are shocking odds. £20 (About $37) gets me back £2.86 ($5). Anyone think its worth it? Surely Tito's gonna kill him...right? If the odds are THAT stacked against Ken I'd put a little cabbage on him because, if Ken DOES manage to pull it out, you'll clean up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ravman77 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 Yeah, you can get 4/1 on 'The Worlds Most Dangerous Man'. Think I'm gonna splash out on Tito with a side bet on Kenny just incase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 I remember you guys mentioning Tito having good subs in practice that he doesn't show in matches....does he have a belt rank in any form of jiu-jitsu? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameron chaos 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2006 I remember you guys mentioning Tito having good subs in practice that he doesn't show in matches....does he have a belt rank in any form of jiu-jitsu? I don't believe Tito has ever trained in a gi but Lister has said he's a solid brown belt in the past. He obviously has solid sub defense and ground control and prefers to win by GnP that risk losing position by going for a submission. It's his game and it works well, even if it can be boring (see Cote vs Tito). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 What's the Buentello rumour? Buentello/Vera has been tossed around for 62 or 63. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 Is the Ortiz/Shamrock feud largely worked? Here's some quotes from MMAWeekly that suggest this: In the same situation with pro wrestling as a lead-in, while the wrestlers could always go long or planned spots could take longer than expected, you can generally control the length because it's a worked product. With the UFC, there's nothing worked about it other than the Ortiz-Shamrock pull-aparts, so it's a much harder product to control in terms of time management on live television. And...... However, despite the shenanigans between Tito Ortiz, Ken Shamrock, and Dana White on The Ultimate Fighter 3, the UFC is not pro wrestling So is the hatred worked? If it is then it takes all the fun out of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 Is the Ortiz/Shamrock feud largely worked? Here's some quotes from MMAWeekly that suggest this: In the same situation with pro wrestling as a lead-in, while the wrestlers could always go long or planned spots could take longer than expected, you can generally control the length because it's a worked product. With the UFC, there's nothing worked about it other than the Ortiz-Shamrock pull-aparts, so it's a much harder product to control in terms of time management on live television. And...... However, despite the shenanigans between Tito Ortiz, Ken Shamrock, and Dana White on The Ultimate Fighter 3, the UFC is not pro wrestling So is the hatred worked? If it is then it takes all the fun out of this. Despite how much Dana White says he despies Pro Wrestling, he steals some aspects from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 However, despite the shenanigans between Tito Ortiz, Ken Shamrock, and Dana White on The Ultimate Fighter 3, the UFC is not pro wrestling So is the hatred worked? If it is then it takes all the fun out of this. I don't think the hatred is worked, but remember that Tito has participated in angles in TNA, and Shammy has spent some time in pro wrestling, so you could probably call this a worked shoot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 Edwards offering Joe a piece of his twix at the weigh-ins was great, as was Tito's reaction and Shamrocks ensuing smugness when Tito weighed in a half-pound more then Shammy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 i am actually ordering this with friends. first time ever. pizza & rum. lets do this. i want shammy (i know) to fuck up ortiz. please. shammy is a grizzly old fuck. i love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 Shamrock is a crusty old vagina. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 Has Babalu earned a title shot or is he being brought in ala Jeremy Horn to be fed to Chuck to give him an easy fight between big matches? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 Babalu's 10-0 since he last fought Chuck (also the last time he lost), won the IFC's 8 man tournament in 2003, and has won via submission 3 times in the UFC. He's the most logical contender at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 Yeah but does he have much chance? Or is it a logical conclusion that Chuck will handle him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 Yeah but does he have much chance? Or is it a logical conclusion that Chuck will handle him? Of course he has a chance, anyone who doesn't will be in for a suprise. He's much improved since the 1st Chuck fight. Infact I'm picking him to beat Chuck in a upset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 Don't you hate Chuck or something? I remember you getting on me for being a Tito-hater but you seem to pick Chuck to lose in everything. You picked him to lose to Randy didn't you? Now you're picking Babalu to beat him and you think Tito will school him next time they fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randomguy 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 From what I've seen Chuck is the clear favorite here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 Don't you hate Chuck or something? I remember you getting on me for being a Tito-hater but you seem to pick Chuck to lose in everything. You picked him to lose to Randy didn't you? Now you're picking Babalu to beat him and you think Tito will school him next time they fight. I don't hate or dislike Chuck at all. I just think he's overrated. I wouldn't be suprised if Chuck wins, but I think Babalu is getting slept on and he will pull off the upset. I knew Chuck was going to beat Randy, but wanted Randy to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 I was going to buy this PPV, but then decided to see it for free on YouTube tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 Any results yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 So it only took Tito 1:18 to knock Shamrock the fuck out? Nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkius Maximus 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 I'm not watching the show...I'm getting PBP from a friend...and I am in fucking shock right now. UFC has my money in November already for what they've setup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 Did he really knock him out or did the ref stop the fight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JustPassinBy Report post Posted July 9, 2006 So it only took Tito 1:18 to knock Shamrock the fuck out? Nice. Maybe the fix was in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 There goes Shamrocks career. Any other results? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 Me and my gf went out with her family tonight to go bowlin' and they had the fight airing on 3 projector screens right over the lanes and it was packed as they advertised it. It was quite the scene to see a huge crowd at a bowling alley watching UFC. You won't see that with wrestling shows. UFC is really catching on in a big way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vivalaultra 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 I don't claim to be a hardcore UFC follower, but I have a good idea of what's going on, and that Arlovski/Sylvia fight was the most godawful boring 25 minutes of non-action I've seen in my entire UFC watching. Yeesh... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 God what an awful show. I missed the first half hour because of work but the rest was the worst UFC show I've ever seen, and the main event made the UFC Heavyweight Title look like it wasn't important enough to fight over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 Well, Arlovski looked like shit once he lost his explosiveness, and Tim didn't really sit down on any punches. Pretty lackluster event, but that's what you get with 4 heavyweight fights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
