EMAXSAUN 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 http://www.pwmania.com/newsarticle.php?page=157923986 WOW is all I can say about this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 and this is a bad thing why? If anything, it should improve his mobility in the ring. Of course, there is no guarantee he will ever be any good in the ring, but not being so grotesquely muscular will certainly improve his chances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 He's still shredded, just not to the obscenely large nature that he was. It'll probably save his life some day, even if it causes him to lose his job. He's young though, so he has time to recover and make something of his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasbeen1 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 I can see this going into an angle about the steroids, and his giving them up. If not it will be chanted nonstop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 It will be quite odd seeing him walk out to his old entrance video now. They've got to change that before he is back on RAW. There's nothing wrong with this at all, but I can't help but to find it funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Human Fly 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 This might be good for his long term health but it is a killer for his career. You cannot build someone up as the "Masterpiece" have him go away for a few months amd then come back looking like a guy from the local gym. Wrestling fans have short memories, but not that short. I feel bad for him, really bad for him. He did more with the role that was given to him than a lot of other people could have. He was not that good in the ring, but for a company that is pushing a 53 year old man with one leg that is gone and another on life support in the main event of one of it's top three shows, he was adequate. I will honestly be surprised if he ever makes it back out of development. Once he gets released he will probably juice back up and catch on somewhere else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EMAXSAUN 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 Oh yeah I wasn't saying that it was a bad thing by any means, and it is probably good for him considering how un-naturally big he was before. It's crazy to see a before/after picture of him though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 He doesn't even look that much different. Slightly less body weight. Still pretty cut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 it'll be a drastic change for his character but he looks much much better now. normal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tominator89 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 This might be good for his long term health but it is a killer for his career. You cannot build someone up as the "Masterpiece" have him go away for a few months amd then come back looking like a guy from the local gym. Wrestling fans have short memories, but not that short. I feel bad for him, really bad for him. He did more with the role that was given to him than a lot of other people could have. He was not that good in the ring, but for a company that is pushing a 53 year old man with one leg that is gone and another on life support in the main event of one of it's top three shows, he was adequate. I will honestly be surprised if he ever makes it back out of development. Once he gets released he will probably juice back up and catch on somewhere else. I'd say dying before his 40th birthday is more of a career killer. He's still young enough that he can actually learn how to wrestle now. His character can still be cocky. He's not a lost cause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 He's still young enough that he can actually learn how to wrestle now. His character can still be cocky. He's not a lost cause. His look was the only thing he had going for him. I'd say he IS a lost cause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golgo 13 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 His look was the only thing he had going for him and it put him on the fast track. However, since he had it easy, it's not a stretch to say that he could have gotten lazy in his ability to learn and improve as well as limited any mobility he may have, so you never know. If he can get over not having his look and gimmick anymore, then he's not a lost cause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 He actually looks better like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 Masters isn't that tall which will be more noticable without the added muscle, he's balding, has a lisp and his entire gimmick, finishing move and everything that comes with it has to be altered if not completely changed. I don't know too many instances where the WWF/E had to do that with a guy they created and chose to push again. Basically he's Buff Bagwell now, without the benefit of people having at one time cared about Buff Bagwell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k thx 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 He actually looks better like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2006 I like that look better also. Now if he'll just learn to be a better worker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golgo 13 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2006 Masters isn't that tall which will be more noticable without the added muscle, he's balding, has a lisp and his entire gimmick, finishing move and everything that comes with it has to be altered if not completely changed. I don't know too many instances where the WWF/E had to do that with a guy they created and chose to push again. Basically he's Buff Bagwell now, without the benefit of people having at one time cared about Buff Bagwell. According to everything I've seen, he's actually 6'4 or 6'5 which could be an inflation, but in that case he's no shorter than Orton or Triple H. I don't think his lisp is Kanyon bad, the Master Lock can be modified easily enough, maybe to a Camel Clutch Full Nelson or something. He was playing the dumb jock role perfectly before he left, just take away the body builder aspect. He and WWE would have to put work in, if they even decide he's worth keeping, but I'm just saying not to write him off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tominator89 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2006 He's still young enough that he can actually learn how to wrestle now. His character can still be cocky. He's not a lost cause. His look was the only thing he had going for him. I'd say he IS a lost cause. His look is what got him his spot on Raw. Maybe he can get some training to actually work a decent match. At his age, he's shouldn't be completely written off as worthless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dogbert 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2006 You could feud him with some of the "bigger" Superstars. Have him rag on them for being roided-up, whether they are or not, all the while keeping his conceited, arrogant persona. It's a stretch, but quite a few of the storylines in WWE nowadays are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2006 Somebody tell the Bashams that Masters raided their wardrobe from 2004. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Pounds 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2006 His gimmick is gone, so is the Unbreakble Masterlock. On the upper side, he gains mobility and can do much more now than press slams and torture racks. He needs to go from being Luger-like to being a normal wrestler. As for explaining all his weight loss......well, let's just say that his mirror broke but he still believes he has his monsterous shape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2006 Masters was probably hired only because of his look. Now that it's gone, it doesn't necessarily have to be a career killer. A skilled and creative writing and booking team could give him something meaningful to do. Oh. Right. He's fucked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
what 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2006 its a fake. look at the hogan/michaels banner in the background Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster Report post Posted August 19, 2006 its a fake. look at the hogan/michaels banner in the background It's not a fake. That Hogan/Michaels SummerSlam 2005 banner has been on the wall of the OVW Arena the past year. Just shows you how rarely they change that stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2006 its a fake. look at the hogan/michaels banner in the background All the developmental territories have WWE PPV banners hung in their arenas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
what 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2006 its a fake. look at the hogan/michaels banner in the background It's not a fake. That Hogan/Michaels SummerSlam 2005 banner has been on the wall of the OVW Arena the past year. Just shows you how rarely they change that stuff. i see im still skeptical that anyone can lose that much muscle mass in that short of a time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2006 its a fake. look at the hogan/michaels banner in the background It's not a fake. That Hogan/Michaels SummerSlam 2005 banner has been on the wall of the OVW Arena the past year. Just shows you how rarely they change that stuff. i see im still skeptical that anyone can lose that much muscle mass in that short of a time. He's been gone since mid-May, I think. That's about three months. It could happen. By the way, you're not seeing the full scope of what he's lost in that picture due to the angle. Clearly he's smaller, but it's not like he's suddenly Spike Dudley. If anything, he's more on the level of the former La Resistance members. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DRH 502 Report post Posted August 19, 2006 Yeah Dub its definately a bad angle. He looks to have lost maybe 20 pounds of muscle at most. Probably more around 15... He has lost a little size in his delts, arms, traps...he was never very thick when looking at him from the side... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Team Angle Pusher 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2006 His gimmick needs to die now but that doesn't have to mean his career is over too because good writers can make anyone get over. Hell, they can even joke about his size but just let him squash a couple of guys to get his credibility back. I'm not going to lie, I have a soft spot for the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites