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-The plans for WM change just about every single day, or every other day or so. There isn't a single thing written in stone for the big show as of right now.

 

-The word going around at RAW last night, as well as today, is that at WM they'll do Cena/Taker, HBK/Batista, Lashley/Holly, and Edge/Orton.

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From PWInsider:

 

-The plans for WM change just about every single day, or every other day or so. There isn't a single thing written in stone for the big show as of right now.

 

-The word going around at RAW last night, as well as today, is that at WM they'll do Cena/Taker, HBK/Batista, Lashley/Holly, and Edge/Orton.

You mean we won't get more of the classic Lashley/Test feud?

 

It's far too soon for Edge and Orton to face off.

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I think Victoria and Mickie James are both gorgeous. Melina's had way too much work done, and it shows. Not that she was good looking prior to the surgery mind you. Michelle McCool (is she still around?) is highly underrated.

 

I think McCool is out with an injury (something about her kidneys if I remember correctly) but yeah, she looks damn smoking hot on Smackdown.

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From PWInsider:

 

-The plans for WM change just about every single day, or every other day or so. There isn't a single thing written in stone for the big show as of right now.

 

-The word going around at RAW last night, as well as today, is that at WM they'll do Cena/Taker, HBK/Batista, Lashley/Holly, and Edge/Orton.

 

One good move, three really bad ones. I'm sure at some point they will consider a 6 man elimination match with Batista, Cena, Lashley, Shawn, Taker and Khali with all three titles on the line.

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Well on the plus side, the constantly changing news certainly makes an for intriguing guessing game when it comes to the Wrestlemania card.

 

Of course if the plans are changing this often it comes at the expense of a solid build for most of the fueds in the company.

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Well on the plus side, the constantly changing news certainly makes an for intriguing guessing game when it comes to the Wrestlemania card.

 

Of course this comes at the expense of a solid build for most of the fueds in the company.

 

Basically, the arguement is who gets to fight Undertaker and get the potential rub? Batista, the modern Warrior with a very short shelf life in the business and one of the worst in-ring performers (although that's generally a prerequisite to get the UT match at Mania) or the young #1 face who has years left in the business but doesn't need the rub but would benefit more in the long run then Batista ever could as well as being a better match quality selection. The decision should be quite obvious. The rest of the card seems sickingly easy to put in place. Cena-'Taker is the closest thing to Hogan-Andre possible and would actually be a good match as a bonus. Batista/HBK just doesn't make any sense though and probably doesn't hold much long term weight. Right now, the booking can easily set up Cena/Shawn and Batista/'Taker but it wouldn't take much at all to change that around.

 

They have alot of good choices surrounding the big 8 (Cena, Batista, Shawn, Taker, RRKO, Booker, Hogan) and should manage to create a good spread of main event matches. I'm really pushing for Hogan Vs Booker with the Trump/McMahon program. You can make Khali the bodyguard figure for Booker which would give the "comedy" guys alot of material to work with as well as gives an actual worker a big spot instead of Shane McMahon. You can easily stretch the Kennedy and Batista program and possibly do a double turn but I doubt WWE has that much confidence in Kennedy right now although it'd be the perfect time to make another star. That'd leave Shawn out in the cold but they could just as well use him with Flair against RRKO in a gimmick match. I'd like to think that was planned before HHH's injury occured and despite the fact Shawn is majorly over, they could keep the "DX" Vs RRKO thing going saving Cena/Shawn for the post-mania main event feud which could have alot of steam for the spring/early summer run. That also prevents a heatless heel vs heel match with the RRKO split.

 

They can do alot but it seems they'll provide just a train wreck and by not setting things in place in advance (meaning the next couple weeks), they'll have a ugly disjointed show.

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or the young #1 face who has years left in the business but doesn't need the rub but would benefit more in the long run then Batista ever could

 

It's not totally unlike the Hogan/Andre deal. Hogan didn't need the rub either, but it did a lot for his career in the long run. Same thing with Cena beating Taker. I still don't want to see anyone end the streak, but if the choice is Cena or Batista, I'll pick Cena every day of the week.

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"The Streak" was worthless if he retires with it intact. He needs to use it to give somebody the ultimate rub and looking at the possibilities, I think Cena is the best candidate.

 

Lashley/Holly is going to be the final nail in the (WW)ECW brand. How do they expect Lashley to get any heat when the corwd couldn't give two shits about his dastardly opponent? I understand that they don't want to push RVD so close to his contract running out, and that Punk is in the dog house and all other options are lacking. Hell, Marcus Cor Von is from Detroit, he'd add more heat to any match-up than Holly will. Of course given Holly's nerve damage, the feeling is that his career is over and this will be his swansong and given the lack of any obvious contender his buddies in the back are giving him the push. Of course Holly will probably be a road agent the day he retires from the ring.

 

I like Edge/Orton however I cringe at the thought of either playing the face. I hope both try to out heel the other thoughout their feud.

 

HBK vs Batista - Meh. However Batista is HHH's baby, so let HBK deal with him.

 

I wonder what politics are going on backstage with both Taker and HBK trying not to have to fight Batista.

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I hope they show a video similar to the "streak" video they showed last year, where it showed Undertaker beating all those guys at WM.

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I don't understand the point of splitting Rated RKO and why even when they do split it needs to be them hating each other. They are the two great heels and neither needs another go as a face..it just isn't necessary and will set one of them back in his career AGAIN...Michaels and Martel wrestled a great heel vs heel match at SummerSlam so let them heel it up and see what happens....

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Top 5 of the Power 25 Year in Review is up on WWE.com.

 

It's TWELVE GODDAMN MINUTES long. For 5 fucking names. Sheesh.

 

And they are:

 

5: Rey Mysterio

4: Bobby Lashley

3: Big Show

2: Edge

1: John Cena

 

 

Rey at #5? Seriously? I guess winning the Rumble, winning the World Heavyweight championship, and then losing every other match is good enough to put you at #5. Sure, makes sense.

 

Matt Striker is now encouraging you to watch The Marine because it has "educational values." What the FUCK?

 

Matt Striker is now changing up the rankings based on how he sees fit. Calling himself the ultimate intangible. Boogeyman was #23, now he's off the list. Carlito was #13, now he's removed. "C Montgomery Punk" is taken off the list. Big Show? GONE!

 

So uh..now it's the power 21! John Cena? GONE! Matt Striker puts himself #1 on the list, because of the new intelligence category.

 

 

That was such a fucking waste of time.

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It’s not a guarantee RVD is leaving. He’s been behaving lately like he doesn’t give a crap and has made up his mind to leave when his deal comes up this spring, but others who have spoken to him are under the impression that if WWE gives him a good money offer he’ll take it. He has told some people that he wants to go to TNA and work indies, but you have to consider that this could be a bargaining tactic. Basically, the more he plays that he’s desperate to leave, the more WWE is going to offer him to stay, because I can assure you they do NOT want him going to TNA. The key to Vince McMahon is that he must feel that he has won some sort of battle over you. He’s always gone harder after folks who have walked out or threatened to walk out on him than guys who answer the phone on the first ring immediately sign (Matt Hardy). Basically, Vince wants what he can’t have, so the game is to make it seem like he can’t have you, and if you have any sort of value whatsoever (or even if you have no value in WWE but the feeling is that you would be valuable elsewhere), he’ll do whatever he can to get you. Rob is scheduled to start renegotiation talks very soon, so it should be an interesting next few months.

 

 

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I hope RVD leaves, however I will understand if he stays as the money might be too good to pass up. I think he'll loose "IWC Cred" if he does stick around, though I'm sure he won't lose any sleep over than either.

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I found this amusing, mostly due to Kane staying in character:

 

 

Kane interviews Robert Englund

Written: January 31, 2007

 

In this edition of WWE.com’s Superstar to Superstar, SmackDown’s Kane talks all things frightful with actor Robert Englund. The two have plenty in common when it comes to blood-curdling for the big screen – Kane was eye-popping psychopath Jacob Goodnight in See No Evil, while Englund is best known for giving sleep a bad rap as the murderous Freddy Krueger in A Nightmare on Elm Street. Even scarier, this terrifying tandem killed time recently to discuss Englund’s latest role in the upcoming screecher-feature, Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon hits theaters March 16.

 

Kane: I used to wear a mask, and frankly, nothing makes my Valentine’s Day better than a massacre. But I heard this is a “mockumentary” horror movie. It will have a lot of blood and guts, right?

 

Englund: Oh yeah, oh yeah. We suck you into it like you’re watching a thinking man’s horror movie. You know, it’s got a little bit of The Blair Witch Project/Scream aspect to it. But by the end, we’ve completely mutated it into a full-on slasher film.

 

Kane: That sounds very unique.

 

Englund: Unfortunately, I don’t get to be the bad guy; I play more of a victim in this one, so I don’t get to participate in any of the bloodletting.

 

Kane: Oh, no. That’s a disappointment.

 

Englund: It’s great, because there’s a great moral question in this movie. The old idea of like a photojournalist – when do you stop taking pictures of the war orphans, put down the camera and help, you know? So we kind of bring that up, just for a second. I don’t want anybody to think this movie is too intellectual. But by then everybody’s in the quicksand of the plot and it just mutates.

 

Kane: Your character in this film is an obsessed psychiatrist trying to stop Leslie. I personally hate psychiatrists. When I was a kid I saw quite a few of them, and they ruin everything. Why shouldn’t I hate you in this movie?

 

Englund: Well listen, I think shrinks suck (laughs), but I may play the last good shrink. I’m kind of like the Donald Pleasence character [Dr. Loomis]…

 

Kane: From Halloween, right?

 

Englund: Right. So I’m a pretty psycho-obsessed shrink. But yeah, I agree with you — shrinks suck. Death to all shrinks!

 

Kane: Leslie’s inspired by Jason Voorhees, Michael Myers and Freddy Krueger. I didn’t see you mention my movie, See No Evil, or Jacob Goodnight. Maybe you’re suggesting he isn’t in their league?

 

Englund: I don’t know why, because Jacob is certainly in Leslie’s league and in the league of all those other guys. He should be mentioned in the same breath with all of them. I think part of it might be when those guys wrote it. The guys are all University of Pennsylvania guys out here in Hollywood. I think they wrote it before…

 

Kane: Before See No Evil’s release?

 

Englund: Yeah, that’s why they didn’t include it. I know they loved dropping the names of all the psycho killers, all the way through this film. The more the merrier. Scott Wilson – who was in the original In Cold Blood and just finished playing the casino owner and father of Marg Helgenberger’s character on CSI — plays like a retired serial killer in this. It would be great to have had him just list… See, like you and me and Jason, he calls us like the new kids on the block. We’re like the young whippersnappers.

 

Kane: Right, right. Going old school there. Switching gears a little bit… Freddy Krueger got roasted in a boiler room. I can sympathize with that; I know how that feels. Still, don’t you just love the way a fire dances around the human body, feeling the heat and watching it melt the flesh off the bones?

 

Englund: I love watching it. I just don’t like doing it. I’ve got to tell you, I love fire. Fire is hypnotic. And you’ve had this experience, too. When you’re on a sound stage and you’re shooting a fire stunt, this weird thing happens where the fire eats up all the oxygen and everybody gets a little dingy. And you know, the stuntmen, those guys know how to count, but when you’re an actor and you can set your arm on fire, you feel kind of magical. And I always forget to count. I’ve singed my eyebrows. Once, the back of my makeup head caught on fire — you’re not counting because you know, you look so cool. That’s why you really have to have a stunt double for that crap. Those guys, they have this internal clock and they’re always counting it off. They know when it’s going to burn off the protective gel and stuff. So yeah, I love fire. I just think it’s hypnotic and great, but I’ve got to tell you — on a sound stage, that stuff scares me.

 

Kane: Really? Something scared you?

 

Englund: Oh, yeah. It’s weird because you’re in an enclosed space and it eats the oxygen. I just think it makes everybody a little off their game; it makes the stuntmen, the camera crew and everybody a little dingy. So it always spooks me a little bit.

 

Kane: I recently had an Inferno Match with MVP. The object of the match is to set your opponent on fire. I won the match, and I can tell you it’s definitely one of those things that’s better to give than receive.

 

Englund: (Laughs.)

 

Kane: I was wondering if I could ask you for a little advice here. I want people to be afraid of me, and I’m always looking for new ways to inflict pain and suffering. Do you have any advice on that?

 

Englund: I think you’ve got to get to them from the inside; scare them psychologically first. If that fails, you know, there are always fingernails.

 

Kane: Yeah, especially the ones you used to wear.

 

Englund: Yeah, the extended version.

 

Kane: Freddy Krueger was one of my childhood heroes. I cheered you on in Freddy vs. Jason. How about you and Jacob Goodnight go one-on-one someday? Are you scared that I’ll give you nightmares?

 

Englund: I like that – Krueger vs. Goodnight!

 

Kane: If we didn’t do it on Elm Street, maybe we can do it in a WWE ring.

 

Englund: We could just get in the ring. I love it. When we did the promos for Freddy vs. Jason in Vegas and we got to use your announcer.

 

Kane: Oh, cool.

 

Englund: It was great, hearing him call it out. We just did kind of a mock weigh-in, like for the heavyweight bout.

 

Kane: That’s definitely a main event.

 

Englund: With all the wrestling stuff going on, we got all those fans there for the publicity stunt and it was just great. What a great audience you guys have. It’s like a rock ’n’ roll audience. They’re great.

 

Kane: Yes, they’re very into it. … I just have one last question. You said fire on the sound stage scares you. What else scares a master of horror like you, besides someone like me?

 

Englund: Oh, I don’t know. I guess scary bitches?

 

Kane: (Laughs.) That may be the scariest thing in the whole world.

 

Englund: And my snake thing goes way back to when I was a little kid. I used to go to the movies – they had movies for kids then. You’d go to the Saturday matinee and somehow I got stuck in the movie theater where they were showing the adult movie, some war movie. And I loved war movies when I was a kid, but there was one on a South Sea island – I guess it was the Americans vs. the Japanese and some of the infantry guys got bit by snakes. I think it was called… gosh, Norman Mailer wrote it… I just can’t think of the name of it now. Great, great book. The movie wasn’t so great. But the guy died from these tropical snake bites and then it freaked me out for a year. I was looking under the bed. I was checking out my closet. So snakes are definitely up at the top of my list. I’ve worked with them – maybe you have, too. I’ve worked with them, pythons and stuff, in a couple of movies, and I had to wrangle around, and I was okay. But still, if I’m out in the country or something, I’m still spooked by them. Ever since I saw that… The Naked and the Dead – it’s an old horror movie from the ’50s and this guy dies in it, and the poison comes out his ears and his nose and his eyeballs and the corners of his mouth, and man, that just seared itself into my brain and it freaked me out for years. I’ve worked with snakes – maybe you have, too. I’ve worked with pythons and such in a couple of movies, and I had to wrangle around, but I was okay. Still, if I’m out in the country or something, I’m still spooked by them.

 

Kane: Wow, one would never have thought that.

 

Englund: Yeah, snakes. They’re my fear factor.

 

Kane: Good luck with Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon.

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WWE Raw and TNA Impact are airing simultaneously twice in February.

 

Not only will WWE Raw and TNA Impact go head-to-head on Thursday, February 15th, but replays of both programs will go head-to-head two days later, as the USA Network is airing a replay of the Thursday night Raw on Saturday, February 17th at 11 PM. In addition, the USA Network will air WWE AM Raw immediately after the Raw replay on February 17th, meaning 3 hours of WWE programming that night.

 

Here's how the schedule looks now:

 

WWE Raw on USA - February 15th from 8 to 10 PM

TNA Impact on Spike - February 15th from 9 to 10 PM

 

WWE Raw replay on USA - February 17th from 11 PM to 1 AM

TNA Impact replay on Spike - February 17th from 11 PM to midnight

WWE AM Raw on USA - February 17th (early February 18th) from 1 AM to 2 AM

 

Credit: Gerweck.net

 

THURSDAY NIGHT WARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Made me think of "THURSDAY RAW! THURSDAY LIVE!"

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The WM 23 theme by Saliva is AWFUL. It's just talking and then the usual "BOOM!" Saliva chorus. It will make for an awful end of the show "highlight" music video, because, aisde from the chorus, it's just awful talking.

 

Best WM themes - Classic, Ragin Climax Instrumental (WM 15), My Way (WM 17), Superstar (Saliva hits a home run, WM 18), and WM 20's awesome "Step Up" theme.

 

With Classic and "Superstar" being the best of the bunch.

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It’s not a guarantee RVD is leaving. He’s been behaving lately like he doesn’t give a crap and has made up his mind to leave when his deal comes up this spring, but others who have spoken to him are under the impression that if WWE gives him a good money offer he’ll take it. He has told some people that he wants to go to TNA and work indies, but you have to consider that this could be a bargaining tactic. Basically, the more he plays that he’s desperate to leave, the more WWE is going to offer him to stay, because I can assure you they do NOT want him going to TNA. The key to Vince McMahon is that he must feel that he has won some sort of battle over you. He’s always gone harder after folks who have walked out or threatened to walk out on him than guys who answer the phone on the first ring immediately sign (Matt Hardy). Basically, Vince wants what he can’t have, so the game is to make it seem like he can’t have you, and if you have any sort of value whatsoever (or even if you have no value in WWE but the feeling is that you would be valuable elsewhere), he’ll do whatever he can to get you. Rob is scheduled to start renegotiation talks very soon, so it should be an interesting next few months.

 

 

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I love Vince on the Monday Night Wars DVD saying "competition is good for business." That must be why anytime someone wants to compete, he does everything in his power to keep them from gaining new talent, new viewers, etc. Fucking asshole.

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I didn't like Limp Bizkit's song for Mania X-7. I actually liked that "I Dare You" song by Shinedown from last year's show (it was one of two themes, along with "Big Time" for Mania 22), but of course for my money nothing can touch Drowning Pool's "Step Up."

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Another note from F4W, is that it was Kevin Dunn who made the call for Michael Cole to call the Rumble instead of Jim Ross. Dunn considers Cole the "heir apparent" and wanted to make sure that fact was clear.

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Jim Ross and Michael Cole are both awful. At least JBL did commentary. What's sad is that as bad as Cole is, he's much better than Ross.

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I didn't like Limp Bizkit's song for Mania X-7. I actually liked that "I Dare You" song by Shinedown from last year's show (it was one of two themes, along with "Big Time" for Mania 22), but of course for my money nothing can touch Drowning Pool's "Step Up."

 

 

Ya. I liked shinedown. Especially during the highlight reel.

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So I was watching one of the many Skinemax channels last night and they showed a ep of Hotel Erotica with Candace Michelle. It was horrible, not that I was expecting quality in the first place.

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The year they had "Step Up", during the opening promo they had (part of) a slower song that lead into it. Anyone know what that was? I can barely remember any of the lines verbatum, something along the lines of 'I'll only do for you what you do for me'.

 

EDIT: It must have been the music during the traditional 'show old clips from Mania' montage beforehand, now that I think about it.

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The song from WM XX you're thinking of is Godsmack's "Touche".

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http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=22683&p=1

 

DEBUT RATING FOR MTV WRESTLING SOCIETY X & MORE

by Mike Johnson @ 5:20:00 PM on 1/31/2007

 

The debut of MTV's Wrestling Society X last night scored a 1.0 rating. I haven't yet heard the audience share. That's a really impressive debut rating, especially considering it was running up against the second half of ECW on SciFi (which usually does around 1.5).

 

In my opinion, WSX should send Vince McMahon flowers because the way he trash talked the original ECW and its fans likely only helped WSX's cause, specificially since it featured several former ECW regulars, tables, ladders, crazy highspots, explosions, etc., all things that would in theory attract former ECW fans that WWE doesn't provide for with their "revitalized" version of the company.

 

Jack Evans will be appearing tonight to discuss WSX on www.InYourHeadOnline.com.

 

The first edition of WSXtra is online now at www.WSX.MTV.com. Our own Richard Trionfo has his report up here on the main page of PWInsider.com.

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Awesome, can't wait for it to regularly beat ECW.

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I don't think anybody is dying to watch the ECW main event of Lashley vs Burke in a match that will never be under "extreme rules".

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I know i've said this before many times, but Vince just needs to pull the plug on the ECW expreriment before he does soemthing that truely ruins the legacy of ECW.

 

Lashley vs Burke? Please, the Smackdown crusier weights are move over than those two. Hell, Val Venis is probably more over than those two.

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Upon further inspection, ladies and gentlemen.... I must declare, that Trinity from ECW is kinda heinous looking.