starvenger 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 So next week, somebody dies. How many people think it's the comic book variety of "death"? You know, where only 616 Uncle Ben stays dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ninja Report post Posted November 28, 2006 If that black guy can negate other people's powers, then how was Nathan able to fly away when he was captured by Claire's dad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 I really hope this break they are taking after next week is just the month of December through January 1 because they are REALLY on a roll right now. This was a flashback episode, but unlike Lost lately, we LEARNED something about these characters and it built on the overall story. I'm guessing Eden and the badass black dude are kind of the "Big Bads" of the season and Sylar and Claire's father are under their control somehow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 I'm thinking the Haitian's capabilities might be exclusively mentally based. He can block telepathy and Eden's Purple Man-esque powers of suggestion, but he can also shut people down entirely (Sylar) or wipe someone's memories (Claire's rapist football player). Yet Claire's not going to stop regenerating and Nathan's not gonna stop flying just cause he's around. Or he's got to be active in doing it, and he just wasn't firing on all cylinders yet when Nathan took to the skies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 I think the Haitian was just surprised when Nathan ZOOMED away. I get the feeling that Syler never had any powers to begin with, but by cannibalizing people's brains, anyone can gain powers. Once he got telekinesis, he was able to get laser fingers ..? The world is quite lucky he didn't get to eat Claire, and so are we all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 You know, it could just be that H.R.G. has a power, where he's immune to telepathy. The Haitian would seem to be the Yin to HayEden's Yang (or is he the Yang to her Yin?) - He has the power to take memories away from people, while she has the ability to place suggestions into people. I don't think that his power extends beyond that - they haven't shown anyone outside of Sylar to have more than one power, and Sylar's power is actually akin to Rogue's, albeit in a mythological kind of way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 So, Charlie still has to come back at some point, right? That whole memory-retention shit has to come in handy later on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 How kick ass was this episode? I think I *might* have enjoyed this the most of all the episodes. Yes, the action was reduced but the advancement in stories were fantastic. SO SO SO much was explained yet created more questions. The Hiro/Charlie stuff was fantastic considering Charlie was basically a new character for the show here and I felt for it instantly. I think the idea of Hiro being faced with the sadness of finding love just to lose it despite the powers he holds is great. He held such pain when he failed in the past but he took a deep wound here. Is Ando the only main character aside from the Suresh's and Claire's father to not have a power (not counting the Petrelli girls, Matt's wife and the other bit characters)? Also, great to see Niki/Jessica make more sense but the timing was off, I thought with DL getting arrested. I thought he had been in prison longer then six months? It should be noted that Jessica has the same physical strength that Sylar has (or rather, someone else had). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big McLargeHuge 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 I think the Haitian was just surprised when Nathan ZOOMED away. That's what I was thinking. He isn't like the kid in X-Men 3. There isn't any aura around him that negates powers. He's got to activate it. Once he got telekinesis, he was able to get laser fingers ..? The world is quite lucky he didn't get to eat Claire, and so are we all. On the same page again, but made me wonder how he walked away from that nasty fall he and Peter Petrelli took? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 I think the Haitian was just surprised when Nathan ZOOMED away. That's what I was thinking. He isn't like the kid in X-Men 3. There isn't any aura around him that negates powers. He's got to activate it. Once he got telekinesis, he was able to get laser fingers ..? The world is quite lucky he didn't get to eat Claire, and so are we all. On the same page again, but made me wonder how he walked away from that nasty fall he and Peter Petrelli took? Its very possible he has collected the same powers that Claire has from someone else (they never said every one has their own specific power). He's already killed at least 8 people. The ones he killed already will be *very* important to this story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 - The badass black dude can block other peoples powers. This is nothing new. Hopefully next week elaborates on that. My question is: What happens when Peter meets badass black dude? Longshot Nikki/Jessica shoots him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 I have to wonder whether or not Niki ALWAYS has super strength, actually, but her victim-type personality will not let her express it in any way... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 It's possible. Maybe the angrier Niki/Jessica is, the stronger she gets? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karc 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 Once I heard the whole "save the cheerleader save the world" crap as a cheap excuse to whore out the teenage girl for ratings, I was done with this show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 ^ What? How is that "whoring out" a main character for ratings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 Well, to be fair niskie about every other post we make relates to the Cheerleader. I don't think it was their intentions to do so, but it was kind of an end result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 They've been "whoring her out" since day one...she's always been a main focal point of the show...hell, when they were airing previews, the only ones I ever saw were her killing herself on camera with the occassional "Peter on the rooftop" thrown in there. There's been just as much Hiro, Niki Sanders and Petrelli Bros. shit as there has been Claire shit. Can't say I'm with you on that one, Karc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 It's possible. Maybe the angrier Niki/Jessica is, the stronger she gets? That's what I think as well. When Niki is threatened (by DL wanting to take Micah away) or physically attacked (by the guys in the first episode, the guy in the elevator), that seems to be when Jessica comes out to play. Killing the father was just Jessica getting revenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 "Whoring out"? So, was Buffy whoring herself out since she was THE focal point of the advertisement for that show? Or the millions of female characters that have the focal point of TV and movies for the past dozens of decades? The show was built leading to that point, for Peter to save Claire. If Claire dies, the world ends because Sylar would have the key piece he needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 wait...I thought she just incapacitated her dad, not actually kill him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 Yeah, that's true. Well, it was still Jessica getting revenge and probably keeping him away so he wouldn't hurt Micah in any way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 for a minute, I thought she was going to kill him and then take him out to her favorite burial spot in the desert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 for a minute, I thought she was going to kill him and then take him out to her favorite burial spot in the desert. I thought so to, and probably would have gone that way if I were the writers. Not only the protection, but to further the Jessica revenge aspect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 Sylar has to have some kind of "power" of his own otherwise Chandra wouldn't have had him on his list and would have never sought him out in the first place. Nikki, I believe, has super strength and that's it for her "power". She just has Hulk like syndrome where when she's pissed she get stronger. She just uses the jessica thing because shes got daddy issues and of course shes devastated by what happened to her sister. I'm praying the Hero who dies is NOT Claire, Peter, the Cop, or Hiro. Anyone else I could live with even though I enjoy ALL the characters. Nathan is a bad bad man. Wouldn't be shocked if Issac was the dead hero next week. I really like Eden and the hatian. Interesting to find out about the Petrelli's dad and Linderman's connection. I'm sure we will eventually see linderman and I bet he has something to do as an Evil mastermind sort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 I've said it before, Nathan always seems to be the most expendable...he's not interested in using his powers though he's very protective of Peter...I can see him realizing, in the end, that he must use his powers and will sacrifice himself for Peter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 Sylar has to have some kind of "power" of his own otherwise Chandra wouldn't have had him on his list and would have never sought him out in the first place. His power is that he can steal other people's powers by killing them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 Sylar has to have some kind of "power" of his own otherwise Chandra wouldn't have had him on his list and would have never sought him out in the first place. His power is that he can steal other people's powers by killing them? My thinking is Mimic (minus the five power maximum) crossed with Hannibal Lecter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 I've said it before, Nathan always seems to be the most expendable...he's not interested in using his powers though he's very protective of Peter...I can see him realizing, in the end, that he must use his powers and will sacrifice himself for Peter. I think it's Peter. I don't know how the whole "Save the Cheerleader" thing altered the timeline, but remember when Hiro teleported to Issac's apartment before the explosion and saw a newspaper that said Nathan wins the election by a landslide? I'm thinking that Peter dies and Nathan, being the selfish ass we have seen, uses it and his wife's paralysis to his advantage to gain the sympathy vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 I've said it before, Nathan always seems to be the most expendable...he's not interested in using his powers though he's very protective of Peter...I can see him realizing, in the end, that he must use his powers and will sacrifice himself for Peter. I think it's Peter. I don't know how the whole "Save the Cheerleader" thing altered the timeline, but remember when Hiro teleported to Issac's apartment before the explosion and saw a newspaper that said Nathan wins the election by a landslide? I'm thinking that Peter dies and Nathan, being the selfish ass we have seen, uses it and his wife's paralysis to his advantage to gain the sympathy vote. Peter is the best, most "holy shit" choice of all the characters. He's one of the two people that WANT to be a hero, and if he dies that would absolutely devastate people in a way that the Lost deaths never did. With that being said, he's already died once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2006 Well, to be fair niskie about every other post we make relates to the Cheerleader. I don't think it was their intentions to do so, but it was kind of an end result. Well, yeah, but that doesn't have anything to do with the "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World" ad campaign that Karc complained about. It could have been "Save the Asian guys, Save the World" and we'd have still been all up about the hot cheerleader. A better example of whoring out a character to get ratings was when LOST first launched. The first few ads were all about Kate in her little bra & panties in the water ... it was more about her TnA than anything else. Hell, it's the reason I first tuned in. If it's not gratuitious, it's not "whoring" IMHO. Peter is the best, most "holy shit" choice of all the characters. He's one of the two people that WANT to be a hero, and if he dies that would absolutely devastate people in a way that the Lost deaths never did. Killing Peter off - for good - would add to my enjoyment of the show immeasurably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites