MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 McNair's shoulder is "sore" and he might not play this weekend. Mr 8 fumbles and 4 interceptions to just 2 TDs..his shoulder should be sore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 13, 2007 I agree that they might be a one and done in the playoffs, but I think you have to credit San Diego's defense for playing as well as they did against Indianapolis. They have a lot of injuries on that defense, particularly in the front seven, that were part of the reason Purple Jesus ran for all those yards the week before. The problem on the offense, from my guess, is Philip Rivers. I never thought he was going to be the solution in San Diego, and thought it was idiotic to draft him when they had a perfectly competent and veteran quarterback in Drew Brees already. Norv Turner isn't a very good head coach (great OC, though), but as many people have said, San Diego has too much talent for him to fuck it up that bad. Is he better than Tony Dungy, Mike Tomlin, or Belichick? Absolutely not. I think San Diego improves down the stretch and becomes more like the team we were familiar with last year (remember things change the closer we get to playoff time- last year Indianapolis had an awful defense and was a relatively average squad, and they were able to hang tight and win it all in the end). I don't think they're going to be quite the offensive powerhouse they were, and as I said, the injuries on D are going to end up killing them in the playoffs, but they might surprise some people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JaMarcus Russell's #1 Caucasian Fan 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 I agree about the defense 100%. My problem with the offense is that they have become almost too preditable in a way. That and Turner simply doesn't use LT enough for my liking. Its becoming a problem that defenses are figuring out ways to contain LT and take him out of games. Rivers hasn't proved to me that he can lead a team to victory. On a sort of unrealted note, VX has me believing the gap between the AFC and NFC isnt as wide anymore. I dont think San Diego or even Pittsburgh are that much better than the Cowboys and Packers. Also, are the middle of the road AFC teams really that much better than the middle of the road NFC teams? The NFC is definetly a more competetive conference than the AFC. I just think the NFC is starting to gain some ground on the AFC after a rather dra decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaxxson Mayhem 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 So what is everyone's opinion about who reigns supreme in the NFC. It's pretty much left to the Cowboys and the Packers. I say the Cowboys, but what do you all think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 Both teams are manned by riverboat gamblers who have a ton of fun on the field. You can't go wrong with either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 13, 2007 The two most competitive divisions in football (well, if Chicago really get its shit together) are in the NFC. The AFC South, after looking strong initially, looks weak against "real" teams, and is pretty much a one-team race. The AFC North is between the Browns and Steelers. And the other two divisions in the AFC are pathetic. I'd venture to say that even the NFC South is stronger than the AFC East, while both West divisions suck ass. I mean, you have the Pats between the NFC South and the AFC East, but that's about the only really strong team. I'd take the Bucs, Panthers, Saints, or Falcons over the Jets and Dolphins and probably the Bills as well right now. As for who the best team in the NFC is, I'm going to be a homer like Cowboy up there and probably say Green Bay, if only because their defense is better and they're only getting better down the stretch, while having played much stronger opposition. The only challenge Dallas has gotten all season has been from New England and the two NFC North teams they've played. They responded well against Chicago (or rather Rex Grossman), and held Minnesota in check, but obviously faltered against the Patriots. Both teams have had a lucky win or two in games they should've put away earlier (like Green Bay against the first Minnesota game and Washington, Dallas against Buffalo and New York). Either way, I think both teams are destined to meet twice this season, so we'll see how it turns out then. My biggest fear with the Packers is the team imploding like it did in 2002 when they had the 8 game winning streak and finished 12-4 only to lay an egg against Atlanta at home. I think McCarthy is a much better coach than Sherman at this point, though, because they're improving week after week. Dallas has the same weaknesses that can be exploited but for one reason or another haven't been yet. I'll be interested in seeing how they fare against Washington this week. Sure the Redskins O isn't all-world, but their defense can give Dallas a good challenge for once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 I'm still waiting for the inevitable implosion of Dallas with Wade Phillips at the helm Unless he finally breaks the curse of "Coordinators who inexplicably keep getting head coaching jobs", since it doesn't look like Norv's going to do that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 Unless he finally breaks the curse of "Coordinators who inexplicably keep getting head coaching jobs", since it doesn't look like Norv's going to do that Didn't Belichick already break that one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 The AFC South has looked weak against real teams? Can you expand on this as I didn't know that Tennessee losing by a combined 4 points against Indy and TB was considered a weak showing. I'm assuming your most competitive divisions are the NFC East and NFC North. Anyway, the Giants have only won against teams with losing records, save for Washington, who is barely above .500, and probably won't be after next week. How is that looking good against real teams? They've lost to the two good teams they've faced, rather convincingly. Jacksonville has a tendency to look bipolar admittedly, but for the most part they've been on. Record-wise this is the most competitive division in football, the AFC South. There's no way anyone other than the Cowboys or the Packers win the East and North. Detroit's only solid win was against Tampa Bay, and they've looked pretty poorly in other games. Both of these divisions have one really good team and a few one and done calibre playoff teams (maybe). The Bears might make that division competitive, but after struggling through more than half of the season I'm not sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 Unless he finally breaks the curse of "Coordinators who inexplicably keep getting head coaching jobs", since it doesn't look like Norv's going to do that Didn't Belichick already break that one? Belichick's admittedly forgettable tenure in Cleveland is a far cry from the wake left behind by Phillips (failing with Elway, benching Flutie for Johnson, that gape-mouth look he gets when his team loses at the last second as with the Music City Miracle or Joe Montana's Mile High Comeback) or Norv, whose head coaching career was best summed when Bill Simmons said something along the lines of "When Norv takes his dog for a walk, does the dog quit after they reach the end of the driveway?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 Benching Flutie for Johnson wasn't his fault. He was pressured into it by Wilson. And my mouth was gaping open at that FORWARD PASS as well. Wade Phillips was the last Buffalo coach to keep them competitive, and his style is well-suited for Dallas, where Parcells no doubt alienated a bunch of the players with his hard line shit. Phillips is a good coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 The Thursday night game in a few weeks could be very important as it might determine home field advantage in the playoffs. If Green Bay can't somehow win the first time around, they probably don't stand much of a chance against Dallas in January either. I'm not really liking the idea of the Packers maybe playing against Terrell Owens in another playoff game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golgo 13 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 This is way more time given to the NFC West and tonight's game on SportsCenter than either deserves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Pizza Hut's Game Face Report post Posted November 13, 2007 Any time is too much time, which was probably your point. Man, the NFL fuckin' sucks this year. Green Bay has made it out of the Blob Of Mediocrity, so at least there's another team that can be said is having a good season, so now it's New England Dallas Green Bay Indianapolis Everyone Else St. Louis Miami And you know Miami will go 2-14 just to disappoint everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 One of those wins will probably be vs the Ravens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 Living in the Philly area, I sooooooooooooo hope they get #1 this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 One of those wins will probably be vs the Ravens Did you get whiplash from turning around on the Ravens so fast? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tzar Lysergic Report post Posted November 13, 2007 RE: Miami-Which of these do they win? @ PHI @ PIT vs. NYJ @ BUF vs. BAL @ NE vs. CIN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perfxion 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 PHI: lose by 14 PIT: lose by 30 NYJ: win by 15 BUF: lose by 7 BAL: lose by 3 NE: lose by 50 CIN: win by 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 I hope Miami wins a couple at least, and San Fran keeps losing the rest of the season. As it is now it looks like the Pats are gonna have a top 5 pick in the draft come April. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 Any time is too much time, which was probably your point. Man, the NFL fuckin' sucks this year. Green Bay has made it out of the Blob Of Mediocrity, so at least there's another team that can be said is having a good season, so now it's New England Dallas Green Bay Indianapolis Everyone Else St. Louis Miami And you know Miami will go 2-14 just to disappoint everyone. I generally agree with all of this, except I think Pittsburgh and the NY Giants have shown enough to differentiate themselves from the blob of mediocrity as well. Neither one's making the Super Bowl, but they are better than the teams consituting "Everyone Else." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 As it's looking now, 3 out of 4 AFC East teams will be picking in the top 5 next April. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MFer 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 Anyone think that all these Colts' injuries are a result of them being undersized at a number of positions or is it just plain bad luck? It looks like Freeney's gonna be out for 3-4 weeks, possibly the rest of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 Anyone think that all these Colts' injuries are a result of them being undersized at a number of positions or is it just plain bad luck? It looks like Freeney's gonna be out for 3-4 weeks, possibly the rest of the season. It's not bad luck, it's football. Guys get hurt. The Colts have been extremely lucky in recent years to keep all of their regulars healthy. Some of that luck has run out this year, but the injury story is overplayed. A lot of teams have dealt with the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 RE: Miami-Which of these do they win? @ PHI @ PIT vs. NYJ @ BUF vs. BAL @ NE vs. CIN Well, Miami has a half-decent shot at winning three of those (Jets, Baltimore, and Cincy). I'd say the game against The Jets is the most likely win for The Fins. Hell with that schedule The Fins might fuck up and end up with a better record than not only The Rams but The Raiders and 49ers too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 13, 2007 With that schedule? The other four games you mentioned are no shots in hell for them to pick up a win. Although, of course, I would love to see them beat New England. But wouldn't we all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 One of those wins will probably be vs the Ravens Did you get whiplash from turning around on the Ravens so fast? I seem to remember him not having a neck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2007 With that schedule? The other four games you mentioned are no shots in hell for them to pick up a win. Although, of course, I would love to see them beat New England. But wouldn't we all. I think they have a outside shot at beating Buffalo on the road. I mean it's not like The Bills ran over them last weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2007 As it's looking now, 3 out of 4 AFC East teams will be picking in the top 5 next April. It would be hilarious if somehow the Patriots ended up with the #1 pick. Poor, poor Niner fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2007 I'd say Dallas is better then Green Bay. Their offense is more explosive and they have a lot more weapons at their disposal. The only real weakness I see in the Cowboys is the secondary being able to cover the deep part of the field. Green Bay might be able to beat the Cowboys at home in December because of the advantage of being used to the weather, but I don't see them having a chance at Texas Stadium. Romo and the Cowboys having home field advantage in the playoffs could be just what they need to keep at ease a young QB. Of course, I desperately hope I am wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites