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There might be a need for a thread for the period time between the end of the regular season and the bowl season. This weekend is the FCS Final Four and the Heisman Trophy Presentation. I again plead with everyone stop caring about this pointless award. Feel free to continue to vent about the BCS or talk about any bowl games that actually interest you.

 

FRIDAY

Richmond at Appalachian State, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN2

 

SATURDAY

Delaware at Southern Illinois, 4:00/1:00 PM, ESPN

 

FRIDAY, December 14th

FCS National Championship Game, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN2

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I think the for the first time the final individual ballots for the Coaches' Poll have been made public. I haven't had a chance to look at it in great detail but this should prove interesting. One thing I did see that the coach who voted Hawaii #1 was Hal Mumme.

 

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Some FCS news...

 

Dayton capped off a fantastic season by beating Albany 42-21 in the Gridiron Classic on Saturday and the Flyers were rewarded by being named the unanimous winner of the Sports Network's final Mid-Major poll released Tuesday.

 

Dayton (11-1) captured all 30 first-place votes and will be honored Dec. 13 in Chattanooga, TN. when the Flyers will receive the Sports Network Cup at the annual Sports Network Awards ceremony.

 

 

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Wait, so why is Dayton not in the FCS playoffs?

 

they're obviously not THAT great.

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Mid-Major... think the "Hawaii" of the FCS. The Pioneer Conference is the "WAC" of the FCS... boasting some great teams that get overlooked simply because of the conference they play in.

 

New coaching news... Indiana State University has named Trent Miles its new head football coach, school athletic director Ron Prettyman announced Tuesday.

 

Miles has spent his last three seasons as the running backs coach at the University of Washington, but is a Terre Haute native and a 1987 Indiana State graduate, having played for the Sycamores as a wide receiver from 1982 to 1986.

 

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Mid-Major... think the "Hawaii" of the FCS. The Pioneer Conference is the "WAC" of the FCS... boasting some great teams that get overlooked simply because of the conference they play in.

 

New coaching news... Indiana State University has named Trent Miles its new head football coach, school athletic director Ron Prettyman announced Tuesday.

 

Miles has spent his last three seasons as the running backs coach at the University of Washington, but is a Terre Haute native and a 1987 Indiana State graduate, having played for the Sycamores as a wide receiver from 1982 to 1986.

 

You know, I've never gotten that, AT ALL! Why does I-AA/FCS look down on certain Conferences like the Pioneer, etc? It's always baffled me.

 

Good thing they're talking about expanding the playoffs on that level. Hopefully, it'll go towards being truly inclusive where everyone gets a fair shot at the National Title for I-AA Schools.

 

The I-AA Playoff, while it has its problems (The CAA really didn't deserve 5 teams), is still a lot better than the system I-A/FBS goes by. Hopefully we'll see a REAL national Champion crowned in our lifetimes. I personally don't want to be 51 (25 years from now), and not watching I-A football at all, due to Bullcrap Postseason.

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Same here in regards to being baffled. What's also baffled me is the notion that because a Division II team comes in, it can't compete in the playoffs for its first year or two simply because they're "making the jump." If they're good enough to earn a spot, give it to them!

 

If it were up to me, I'd say all the conference winners would get automatic berths. The only exceptions would be the MAAC (4 teams) and Independents. I also don't get why the Ivy League refuses invitations to the playoffs... your teams STARTED college football. Screw academics and live up to your legacies.

 

Given the idea of 16 teams... my FCS playoffs would be: Automatic Berths from 14 conferences with 2 at large spots. It'd make winning the conference more relevant and make teams "earn" their spots in the playoffs. It would also cut down on the 5 teams from one conference crap.

 

Done this way, this year's playoffs would be...

1: Montana (8-0, 11-1) Big Sky

2: Delaware State (9-0, 10-2) MEAC

3: McNeese State (7-0, 11-1) Southland

4: Northern Iowa (6-0, 12-1) Gateway

5: Richmond (7-1, 11-2) CAA

6: Harvard (7-0, 8-2) Ivy

7: Eastern Kentucky (8-0, 9-3) Ohio Valley

8: Grambling State (8-1, 8-3) SWAC

9: Albany (6-0, 8-4) Northeast

10: Liberty (4-0, 8-3) Big South

11: Dayton (6-1, 11-1) Pioneer

12: Appalachian State (5-2, 11-2) Southern

13: Fordham (5-1, 8-4) Patriot

14: South Dakota State (4-0, 7-4) Great West

15: Massachusetts (7-1, 10-3) CAA *At Large*

16: Southern Illinois (5-1, 12-1) Gateway *At Large*

 

Overall, it'd give that "anything can happen" feel in regards to the smaller schools potentially upsetting big schools while placing relevance on winning the conference that you play in (and giving small conferences a greater reason to play).

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BOULDER - The University of Colorado has agreed to pay $2.85 million to settle a lawsuit by two women who claimed they were gang-raped at an off-campus party.

 

 

University spokesman Ken McConnellogue says the school also agreed to hire an adviser to monitor compliance with Title IX, a federal law governing equal treatment of women, and to add a position in the university Office of Victim Assistance.

 

The women alleged they were raped at an off-campus party in 2001 and that CU had violated federal law against gender discrimination by fostering an environment that allowed sexual assaults to occur. No criminal sexual assault charges were ever filed.

 

"The settlement is a comprehensive settlement, covering all claims," said CU President Hank Brown at a press conference on Wednesday.

 

McConnellogue said one of the women, Lisa Simpson, will receive $2.5 million, with the other woman, Anne Gilmore, receiving $350,000.

 

Gilmore's name was released during a press conference on Wednesday after the settlement was reached. She had initially wished not to be named.

 

The university says the first $1 million of the settlement will come from the state's coffers, but the remaining $1.85 million will be paid out by an insurance company for the university.

 

The settlement comes after a September ruling by the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that reinstated the lawsuit after a lower court had thrown it out. The appeals court panel ruled there was evidence the alleged assaults were caused by the school's failure to adequately supervise players.

 

However, CU lawyers said that the appeals court decision contradicts previous rulings that schools must have known about harassment and ignored it before they can be held liable.

 

Brown says the appellate courts ruling rewrote the laws and effectively changed the outcome of the case.

 

"We faced, if we went on, years and years of litigation," said Brown. "For us it was helpful to get on with our lives."

 

Brown says he thinks the appellate court's ruling will insight a "renewed focus by universities across the nation."

 

"We've strived to make the University of Colorado a model for student safety," said Brown.

 

Since the case was filed earlier this decade, the university has parted ways with President Elizabeth Hoffman, CU-Boulder Chancellor Richard Byyny, Athletic Director Richard Tharp and Football Coach Gary Barnett. The university implemented new oversight and policies related to its football recruiting program and has continually stressed it does not "have a policy that would place any of its female students at risk of assault."

 

A lawyer for the university says student hosts are now required to pass a training course prior to recruiting visits and any presence of alcohol on recruiting visits are grounds for immediate suspension.

 

Additionally, coaches are now required to create the recruits' itinerary in order to limit the amount of unsupervised time. Also, recruits are now subject to a midnight curfew during visits.

 

Brown says the university took the situation very seriously because of the effects it has on their reputation, adding that CU's Nobel laureates were "footnotes when compared to this kind of litigation."

 

The university president says he's glad CU can now focus on their primary objective, which is education.

 

"We're a different university with different leadership, different focus and different policies," said Brown.

Two-point-five for that girl. Damn.

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48 hours and the ACC is looking considerably stronger than it was on Wednesday. Jim Grobe is in fact staying at Wake instead of going to Arkansas, and Paul Johnson will replace Chan "5 losses? Let's do it!" Gailey at Georgia Tech.

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I didn't even know Colorado athletics had gang-rape problems. I thought they just whored girls out to potential recruits. Weird stuff going down out there.

 

Can someone better in tune with college sports explain what "Vanderbilt eliminating its athletic department" is all about? I know they're the Northwestern of their conference, where they don't particularly care about sports, but have they ceased to field teams altogether?

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That all started a few years ago. They still field teams but no longer have an athletic department. It's been merged with the rest of university administration. The idea was that it would help eliminate any sort of rule-breaking or bending that athletic departments are notorious for allowing, and make student-athletes for the major sports (namely basketball and football) into better students.

 

Whatever the effect, it hasn't hurt the football team at all, which has been the most competitive it's been for 2 decades over the past few seasons.

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I didn't watch much of the game, but OMG the numbers on Armanti Edwards tonight were ridiculous. 14/16 for 192 yards with 3 TD and 0 INT through the air and then 31 carries for 313 yards and 4 TDs on the ground. Yes, the QB ran for over 300 yards in one game.

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I didn't watch much of the game, but OMG the numbers on Armanti Edwards tonight were ridiculous. 14/16 for 192 yards with 3 TD and 0 INT through the air and then 31 carries for 313 yards and 4 TDs on the ground. Yes, the QB ran for over 300 yards in one game.

How do you not stop the QB when he runs it 31 times? You would think half the team would be playing QB spy.

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Grand Valley St.'s 40-game D-II winning streak (as well as a chance for a 3-peat) is over as they fall to Northwest Missouri St. in the semis, 34-16. NWMSU will play Valdosta St. in the finals.

 

Delaware beat So. Illinois earlier 20-17 to advance to the FCS finals against App. St.

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I just used the Playoff simulator thing on ESPN.com, and noticed that some of the teams with lower percentages were winning. Does anyone know the reason for this?

 

I did each bracket twice. The BCS one gave me USC and Kansas, the ESPN one game me Georgia and Oklahoma, and the Allstate one gave me Missouri and Virginia Tech.

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Things were getting a little out of hand there at the end of that Delaware/App St. game. Good stuff.

 

At least Michigan lost to the FCS champs... :(

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credit Great Blue North Draft Report.

 

Louisville WR Mario Urrutia has declared for the NFL Draft.

 

Louisville RB Anthony Allen will be transferring. He can't transfer to a Big East school or Arkansas.

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That's one thing about DII..

 

My School, Valdosta State, just won the national championship...

 

And Campus is dead cause everyone went home for Winter Break..

 

At least the big boys have there's when Spring Semester just kicks off

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