AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2007 I would think Lindland would have a better chance than Dan at this point. It seems to me like Hendo would stand and trade while Lindland would immediatley go for the takedown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2007 I think in terms of "Fighters I want to see their ass get handed to them" and "Fighters I'd want to see do it" Lindland getting raped by Anderson fits the bill perfectly. Lindland a Top Ten MW my fuckin ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2007 Well, Anderson just got called out so he's probably booked until 2009. Quoteworthy: “I admit that I haven’t had the most exciting fights during my time in the UFC. From this point forward, I want to try making them more exciting, but not at the expense of winning. To do that, I’ve stepped up my training in standup in particular, learning how to push forward and effect more damage…. [uFC Middleweight Champion Anderson] Silva and I have unfinished business. I want that rematch because it feels like our first fight didn’t end definitively. I want to finish him, once and for all….. I’d like to knock him out, certainly, but I also really want to submit him. I want to take him down and force him to submit. I want to make him tap out.” Great interview with Japanese UFC middleweight contender Yushin Okami in which he addresses numerous topics, as well as his long journey to the Octagon. “Phoenix” (a new nickname) defeated reigning 185-pound champion Anderson Silva at a Rumble on the Rock tournament in 2006 because of a disqualification. It was the last time “The Spider” dropped a bout — albeit under a veil of controversy. Okami wants to change that … and he might get the opportunity sometime in 2008 thanks to a brand-new four-fight contract extension. sherdog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2007 Lindland a Top Ten MW my fuckin ass. In terms of talent, to say Lindland isn't a top ten MW is ignorant. There isn't a MW right now Lindland wouldn't have a legit shot at beating(nor is there many he wouldn't be favored to beat). Lindland hasn't accomplished jackshit in the last few years, so in terms of rankings then you do have a point. But right now the MW divison is so weak, I have him there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2007 I have no doubt that Lindland is a top MW contender, but I remember usually being bored by his fights Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2007 I'm by no means saying Lindland isn't a talented fighter, I'd likely have him in my Top Ten P4P in the world but there's no way in hell he can be ranked due to his weight fluctuation and the fact that he hasn't faced a top ten MW in some time. You could make the argument for Horn but even then Horn wouldn't have been up there enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2007 I'm by no means saying Lindland isn't a talented fighter, I'd likely have him in my Top Ten P4P in the world but there's no way in hell he can be ranked due to his weight fluctuation and the fact that he hasn't faced a top ten MW in some time. You could make the argument for Horn but even then Horn wouldn't have been up there enough. You could say the same about Wanderlei, really. Only one real LHW fight in the last couple of years, IIRC, and he lost his belt in that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2007 Report: Michael Bisping’s Middleweight Debut Coming vs. Charles McCarthy (Updated) Posted by MMA Junkie on December 20, 2007 at 12:27 pm ET “The Ultimate Fighter 3” light heavyweight winner Michael Bisping (14-1 MMA, 4-1 UFC) will make his middleweight debut versus Charles McCarthy (10-4 MMA, 1-1 UFC) in March. The news comes from Sherdog.com, citing a source close to American Top Team, where McCarthy trains. MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) was able to confirm the news with a source close to McCarthy. We’ve also learned that while the fight has been agreed to in principle, bout agreements have not been signed for the fight. The fight will reportedly take place March 8 — just one week after a show already announced for Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio — across the pond in London, England. Bisping, who dropped a close split-decision loss to Rashad Evans at UFC 78, recently confirmed that he’s moving to 185 pounds. The 28-year-old cited a distinct size disadvantage as a reason; many fellow light heavyweights were cutting weight from 220 or 225 lbs. down to 205, whereas Bisping was dropping from just 210 lbs. The loss to Evans snapped Bisping’s 14-fight win streak, which included a controversial split-decision victory over Matt Hamill in September. As for McCarthy, he’ll look for his second consecutive win inside the octagon. The 27-year-old suffered a legendary TKO (via spinning back kick) to David Loiseau at UFC 53 before earning a spot on “The Ultimate Fighter 4,” a special “comeback” season of the UFC’s popular reality series. He lost to Pete Sell in a preliminary bout but bounced back for a first-round submission of Gideon Ray in the show’s live finale. As for the event itself, it’s too early to know if it’ll be a traditional UFC event (meaning it’ll be “UFC 83”) or a special UFC Fight Night event. UFC President Dana White recently stated that the Fight Night events would be held in new locations in 2008, rather than the traditional Las Vegas and Hollywood, Fla. locations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2007 I'm by no means saying Lindland isn't a talented fighter, I'd likely have him in my Top Ten P4P in the world but there's no way in hell he can be ranked due to his weight fluctuation and the fact that he hasn't faced a top ten MW in some time. You could make the argument for Horn but even then Horn wouldn't have been up there enough. You could say the same about Wanderlei, really. Only one real LHW fight in the last couple of years, IIRC, and he lost his belt in that one. When was the last time Wanderlei Silva even had an impressive performance at LHW? He lost 1 to Arona and won a controversial desicion over him in the rematch. The last time I recall Silva looking impressive at LHW was 2 years ago against Nakamura. He is in the Top 10 by default, same goes for Lindland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2007 http://www.fightnewsextra.com/cc/ufc79/18.htm An interesting interview with Bruce Buffer from fightnews.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2007 Thanks for the post, good interview. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2007 I'm fairly certain that was Bruce Buffer interviewing Bruce Buffer; introduction by Bruce Buffer. "And the ladies. I hear you are a real ladies man. Word is, you get more poon than all the fighters combined" "Oh, I don't know. I'd hate to kiss and tell." "Come on, don't be modest, I hear you have em lined up in a row" "I do love organization" "Oh you cad" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2007 Sherk makes an ass out of himself, and basically calls BJ Penn a pothead... http://www.mmafightline.com/news/2007/1226...rk_311899.shtml Guess what Sherk you fucking roid up dumbass, pot isn't a performance enhancing drug even if BJ does smoke pot. If anything it decreases your performance. I can't wait to see BJ Vs. Sherk, and watch BJ beat the shit out of Sherk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 MMAJunkie has Lauzon vs Florian and Bonnar vs Hamill as the main events of a scheduled UFN in April which will serve as a lead-in for the new TUF season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 Well, this should give us an idea as to how well Bonnar's adjusted to his new team. Speaking of teams, Fight Network had EliteXC Renegade on again and it made me wish that the UFC would include team affiliations in the introductions. Also, I was reading about how Matt Arroyo and Lobstah were applying for The Amazing Race... better than Marlon Sims and Noah Thomas, I suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 That's an odd combination. I'd prefer Tim Sylvia by himself. He's big enough to produce two people and it would keep him away from my tv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 Lauzon vs. Florian? Very interesting and weird matchup, to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 Lauzon vs. Florian? Very interesting and weird matchup, to say the least. I think Florian should take it without too many problems. I like Lauzon, but Florian is on top of his game right now, while I think Lauzon hasn't excatly hit his peak yet. But you're right, it is a very interesting match up, I am interested in it for sure. But I still wanted to see Florian Vs. Huerta, but Huerta said he's taking 6 months off. Can't say I blame him, he deserves it after the busy 2007 year he had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 I think Florian should take it too, but they're both really active so this fight shouldn't be slowed down at all. I think it's weird just because of all the LW's I thought would get a crack at Kenny next Lauzon was not on my mind at all. I'm glad they're not babying him around or anything, but I've gotten used to them taking forever to give tough matchups for most of the non-TUF winners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2007 Word's coming out that Tanner vs Okami is a go for the March card in Columbus. They're certainly not giving Evan a warm-up fight for his return and I imagine regardless we'll see the winner fight Silva if he gets past Hendo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2007 I think Lauzon should suitably crush Kenny. Tanner vs. Okami is sooo good eats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2007 I think Lauzon should suitably crush Kenny. Is there a "B-A-I-T" missing in there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2007 I don't really see what Kenny brings to the table to off-set Lauzon's wrestling and GnP. Look at Kennys performances against guys who are stylistically similar to Joe (Diego, Sherk) and he gets whooped. Plus, the time Joe has spent with BJ will have done nothing but improve his game. I imagine the same people who pick Kenny in this fight picked Kenny over Huerta as well. This Kenflo love is GETTING OUT OF CONTROL!!! So tell me how Kenny wins this fight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2007 More experience, better wrestler, better BJJ, arguably the better striker, proven himself in tough situations, didn't lose to Manny Gamburyan. These are the reasons I pick Kenny Florian to win this fight. You probably won't concede on a few of them though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2007 Also, Joe Lauzon is not nearly the grappler that Sherk and Diego are. Kenny is a VASTLY different fighter than he was against Diego. He's also much more improved than he was in the Sherk fight. But I will concede the BJ Penn wildcard factor. I forgot about that. I'm always unsure about a guy that trains with BJ Penn...just like I'm always unsure about BJ himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2007 More experience? Looking like Zoolander, yes. Fights? Only if you score it like golf. Better wrestler is confusing. Better BJJ, yes, but he hasn't really proven himself effective off his back with punches coming down over him. Stand up, leg kicks don't mean much and aside from that he has his elbows. Kenny doesn't like getting punched in the face, period. He looked very timid against Thomas and Joe will be putting fists up and not backing down, combining it with takedowns will fuck Kenny up. He folded against Diego and the best thing he can say in regards to improvement was that he was only run over by Sherk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2007 Better wrestler is confusing. Not really. Kenny has shown comparable takedowns to Joe (I'd say Lauzon has the better shot, while Kenny is better from the clinch), but better takedown defense. Better BJJ, yes, but he hasn't really proven himself effective off his back with punches coming down over him. He doesn't need to be able to submit Lauzon off his back to beat him. His top game is very effective, and if a smaller, T-Rex arm-having Gamburyan can largely dominate from the top, I see little reason to think Florian won't. Stand up, leg kicks don't mean much and aside from that he has his elbows. Kenny doesn't like getting punched in the face, period. "Leg kicks don't mean much" from the guy who joygasms over what Alves can do with them? Kenny's a good overall kicker, and skilled in the Thai clinch. Luazon's stand-up isn't anything to write home about, and usually relies on overwhelming an already outmatched opponent. Besides, Florian got his face beat in by Leben and never crumbled. He looked very timid against Thomas and Joe will be putting fists up and not backing down, combining it with takedowns will fuck Kenny up. The Thomas fight proved nothing as both guys mostly waited for opprotunities to counter. And Lauzon's aggression hasn't proven effective in the past against higher quality fighters who don't simply shit themselves at the first signs of adversity. Also, trying to shit on Florian's resume in comparison to Lauzon's is about as retarded as anything you've said in the past. Going to a close JD with a larger, much more experienced Drew Fickett in his second pro fight is about as impressive as anything as Lauzon has down thus far. Stylistically, this fight will probably resemble Kenny's fight with Alvin Robinson. Robinson's aggression and strength gave Florian problems early on, but Kenny controlled Robinson with some good takedowns and eventually wore him out with his G&P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2007 Since I don't think Kenny will be able to put Joe on his back, and I do think Joe will put Kenny on his, my BJJ comment was made in relation to what I think will be relevant in the fight in regards to Kenny being able to win. I don't think he will be able to tap Joe off his back, nor do I think he will be able to successfully stifle any gnp from Joe. If is able to take Joe down, it's a different story, but I don't think he will be able to do what he did to Stout or Cope there. The experience comment comes from the fact that Joe has twice as many fights as Kenny. If you want to qualify experience, rather than quantify it, Joe hasn't done 5 rounds against Sean Sherk. But then again, Kenny has Karalexis, Stout, Cope under his record as well. Leg Kicks don't get knock outs, generally speaking, and it's once in a blue moon that you see one score a TKO. Beyond that, I don't see Kenny being able to use them effectively against Joe. Everyone remembers the Mishima fight like it was every Kenny fight, but it wasn't. Kenny is going to look to evade and Joe is going to press forward. I don't think Kenny is going to be able to handle that, unless Joe's knee goes out... And Alves puts his MT together much better than Kenny does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2007 Robinson is a bigger, stronger, and I'd argue better wrestler than Lauzon, and aside from a nice shoulder throw, got completely dominated in the takedown department by Florian. Mishima is another good example of a guy with good wrestling who had trouble taking Kenny down. Joe, on the other hand, got taken down repeatedly and rather easily by Manvel in their bout, and hasn't shown exceptional takedowns against anyone of note. Also, Florian not only wrecked Stout with ease (who, despite his weak ground game, has managed to survive there in the past), but dominated the previously mentioned Mishima and Robinson, two accomplished grapplers, from the top. As far as experience goes, Kenny has competed against former Top 10 guys in 3 weight classes, while Joe's biggest step ups have seen him submitted by the best guys he's fought (mainly at FW). Also, you've yet to point out why you think Joe will dominate the stand-up beyond being aggressive (which Robinson also was), which will serve only to bring him into Florian's comfort zone (the clinch). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2007 More Matt Hughes dickery OK, granted, he's talking about Tim Sylvia, but damn that's one cold dude. Quick exerpt: “Well, right now I have enough friends and I don’t need any more friends,” I said. “Is that it? Are we done here?” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites