Zetterberg is God 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 Without GSP on the card I don't think there's as much of a danger of it selling out as quickly as last time. Having said that, it will sell out quicker then most UFC shows and I know from personal experience that it's because of Fight Club that I was able to get tickets so take from that what you will. Cool, thanks for the info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 You have to join fight club to get any sort of good, "cheap" ticket. The scalping will be amazing after the pre-sale. The 80 (?) bucks you spend on fight club will be better than the 300 bucks you spend on a 50 dollar ticket. Also, buy extras and sell them for double. The show will definitely sell out. Take away all the people who bought tickets last time and you still have enough to fill the bell centre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 I find it impossible to believe that Gomi walked around at heavyweight. Most of his career, even when he fought in Shooto or wrestled All Japan Combat Wrestling Championship he always weighed pretty low. Nowadays he's one of the bigger lightweights, but I have doubts he walks around heavier then say Sean Sherk or even Joe Stevenson and Clay Guida. Nowadays when the lazy fuck is just training an hour a day, then partying and drinking for the rest of the day he walks around 190. Fucking Gomi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetterberg is God 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 You have to join fight club to get any sort of good, "cheap" ticket. The scalping will be amazing after the pre-sale. The 80 (?) bucks you spend on fight club will be better than the 300 bucks you spend on a 50 dollar ticket. Also, buy extras and sell them for double. The show will definitely sell out. Take away all the people who bought tickets last time and you still have enough to fill the bell centre. I figured it'd probably be worth it so thanks for confirming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Intro of the flyweight class (125) in WEC is now official. Yes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Here's the list so far, with Breen's help. We tried to skewer towards active fighters with a few exceptions. Anyway, best fighters by country of birth: Afghanistan- Siya Bahadurzada America- BJ Penn Angola- Joao Roque Argentina- Alex Schnoenauer Armenia- Gegard Mousasi Australia- George Sotiropoulos Austria- Michael Ettl Azerbaijan- Teymur Aliev Bahamas- Yves Edwards Belarus- Andrei Arlovski Belgium- Tommy Depret Brazil Anderson Silva Bulgaria- Jordan Radev Cameroon- Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou Canada- Georges St. Pierre Chechnya-Mamed Khalidov Chile- Fabian Acuna China- Liu Jing Wen Colombia- Hans Marrero Costa Rica- Ariel Sexton Croatia- Goran Reljic Cuba- Hector Lombard Cyprus- Michael Bisping Czech Republic- Andre Reinders Denmark- Martin Kampmann Dominican Republic- Omar de la Cruz Egypt- Ali Ibrahim England- Alistair Overeem Finland- Jerry Kvarnstrom France David Baron Georgia- Tengiz Tegoradze Germany- Peter Sobotta Greece- Stav Economou Guam- Jesse Taitano Guatemala- Luis Ciraiz Haiti- Edson Berto Honduras- Jovany Varela Iceland- Arni Isaksson Indonesia- Fransino Tirta Iraq- Mushtaq Abdullah Ireland- James Doolan, Chris Stringer Israel- Ido Pariente Italy- Gustavo Piccone Ivory Coast- Bernard Ackah Japan- Shinya Aoki Korea- Dong Hyung Kim Lithuania-Deividas Taurosevicius Mexico- Antonio Duarte Mongolia-Jadamba Narantungalag Netherlands- Semmy Schilt New Zealand- Mark Hunt Nigeria- Andy Ologun Norway- Joachim Hansen Papua New Guinea- Adrian Pang Peru- Tony DeSouza Poland- Tomasz Drwal Portugal- Nelson Semedo Puerto Rico- Chris Manuel Romania- Catalin Zmarandescu Russia- Alexander Shlemenko Saint Pierre and Miquelon- Denis Kang South Africa- Trevor Prangley Spain- Daniel Tabera Sweden- David Bielkheden Switzerland- Peter Mettler Thailand- Rombaa Somdet Tonga- Peni Tuafa'ao Turkey- Sami Berik Wales- Paul Jenkins Venezuela- Maximo Blanco Ukraine- Fedor Emelianenko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Here's the list so far, with Breen's help. We tried to skewer towards active fighters with a few exceptions. Anyway, best fighters by country of birth: America- BJ Penn Mexico- Antonio Duarte England- Alistair Overeem Netherlands- Semmy Schilt My opinion... America- Rashad Evans Mexico- Efrain Escudero England- Dan Hardy Netherlands- Melvin Manhoef As far as Rashad and Efrain goes, it's hard to go against undefeated fighters especially considering the level of competition Rashad has fought. Don't know too much about Duarte though, so I'll admit my ignorance there. Dan Hardy has been on role, and if he can beat Rory it will only further my argument. Alistair is going decent in a shitty division, but I expect when he faces a talented 10 HW, he will eventually lose. But I can see why you can rank Alistair over Hardy, but I'm going to go with Hardy! Ain't nothin you can do about it! Melvin Manhoef has done much more recently in the current MMA scene then Semmy Schlit has. I know you don't like Melvin because he ain't a grappler, but him knocking out Mark Hunt in 18 seconds gives him this crown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Forgot Manhoef... for Suriname. I had Rashad over BJ originally, and go back and forth in my head. As is, the list is hardly meant to be definitive. Also considering Coenen for Netherlands, Daly for Ireland, and Lungu for Romania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Forgot Manhoef... for Suriname. I had Rashad over BJ originally, and go back and forth in my head. As is, the list is hardly meant to be definitive. Also considering Coenen for Netherlands, Daly for Ireland, and Lungu for Romania. How about Paul Daley for England. And just found out Melvin was born in Suriname... Either way I would say there has to be a better MMA fighter from the Netherlands then Semmy Schlit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 You're missing Joe Son. He created JOESONDO He got punched in the balls like 32 times before he quit He carried a cross out during his entrance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 If it wasn't Overeem, it'd be Hardy, who doesn't yet have the wins to justify it just yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Duarte also just lost to fellow Mexican Albert Rios at Affliction Day of Reckoning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 As far as Holland goes, what about Bas Rutten? I know he's old school, but amazing in his time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Also for Armenia, I'd rather have Karo than Mousasi, even if he has been kinda slow recently. Mousasi's still got a lot to prove in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 As far as Holland goes, what about Bas Rutten? I know he's old school, but amazing in his time. Lei's opinion of Pancrase isn't too high, IIRC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 But wins over Shamrock, Randleman, and other Heavyweights while he should have been a natural middleweight (185) is really fucking impressive, even in the current climate. Take into account that this was when these guys were in their prime and not washed up (whereas nowadays a win over Shamrock is still worth something, if you're a fan of Cung Le). Underrated in my opinion. Way more impressive than anything Schilt has done in MMA. His wins in K-1 are in a horrible time for that company also. Kid Yamamoto would be my pick for Japan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 - Rios was born in California, Duarte was born in Tijuana. - Rutten is pretty much retired again, and far past his physical prime. If this were '98, I'd probably put him up. Schilt, if nothing else, is somewhat active, and despite being a limited fighter, is still comparable to most native born Dutchmen around nowadays. - I'll probably put Shinya Aoki for Japan, at least until KID stops being an injury-prone fag and starts fighting again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Okay I thought this was an all-time list, rather than current MMA. It's just that whoever is the best today is probably the best ever considering the evolution of the sport, so it's easy to mix them up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Yeah. The only exception I can think of for the moment is Joao Roque for Angola, because really, who the fuck else is there? I'm also kind of surprised nobody's noticed the white boy Breen had me slip in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Rearranged it alphabetically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruteSquad_BRODY 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2009 this 6'8 360 lb Ross Clifton is 1-6 in his last 7 fights and is taking on Ken Shamrock Feb 13th Can Shamrock do it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruteSquad_BRODY 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2009 Wow Bodog has Jardine at + 275 vs Rampage, that might be worth a low gamble.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2009 this 6'8 360 lb Ross Clifton is 1-6 in his last 7 fights and is taking on Ken Shamrock Feb 13th Can Shamrock do it? Uhhhh, I dunno. Shamrock doesn't have power on his feet, and I don't think he can take dude down. Please retire, Kenny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2009 fatty is getting subbed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2009 I think Shamrock gasses before this guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2009 He's 360 lbs and 1-6 in his last 7 fights? I have to give Shamrock the benefit of the doubt here. Oh, he's 6'8". Yikes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2009 Page 200, way to go guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2009 I put up a celebratory avatar for this monumental event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2009 "War Machine" got himself kicked out of another MMA company with his dumbass comments, here's his retort Seems War Machine is being censored again. I can't speak my mind at all without all the [expletive] higher-ups in the industry getting their panties in a wad. Just how my Evan Tanner bulletin got me kicked out of the UFC it seems that I have been kicked off the Bellator show before it has even begun. Seems they don’t like it when their fighters speak their mind on the politics of the USA and its [expletive]-ass presidents. Guess I should just erase my MySpace page and/or just keep MY opinions to MYSELF? So much for living in a "free" country right? So much for the "freedom of speech" right? I guess you're only allowed those things if you are a natural born citizen of the US.....or maybe you only pay 30K+ a year in taxes....maybe only if you're not a convicted felon....HMMMM....wait a minute I match ALL of the criteria above. SO maybe the real answer is you can only enjoy your "freedom" when they think you say exactly what THEY want you to. Well I say [expletive] that! I’m not changing for anyone or any dollar amount. I could have earned over a quarter million in that tournament but I don't give a [expletive]. I'm no one's sheep and I will always be true to my beliefs. WM P.S. [Expletive] an Obama, [expletive] a Disney, [expletive] an ESPN and [expletive] the Bellator Fighting Championship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2009 He's a pioneer in the current day struggles for freedom of speech. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
