Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Hey now, he lit up Josh Burkman like a candle. Gotta love him for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 My memory tells me he won the first round of the Alves fight too. Neither Hughes nor Koscheck could really say the same. I could be wrong on this though, as CBR told me that he remembered Alves being the clear winner of the first round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Given his skill set, he should've merked Burkman & Fickett, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 My memory tells me he won the first round of the Alves fight too. Neither Hughes nor Koscheck could really say the same. I could be wrong on this though, as CBR told me that he remembered Alves being the clear winner of the first round. Josh Koscheck took Alves fight on 2 weeks notice and still gave him all he could handle. It was a close 29-28 desicion for Alves IMO, it was a really good fight. Also Karo took the 1st round against Alves, he did something Kos or Hughes couldn't do and take Alves down. He was also getting the better of the exchanges as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 That cut he got against Fickett was one of the nastier ones I've seen. Not Eastman/Belfort bad but pretty rough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Weigh In special is on right at at espn.com... Me, KOAB, and Youth N Asia are in the chatroom having a discussion come along if you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Jones got up in Bonnar's face, Fitch had fun with Gono's wig, and BJ looked less portly this time around. Oh, and Karo showed up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Guida/Diaz staredown was awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Oh yeah. Forgot about the special ed. staredown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Gono and Fitch stole that weigh-in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Guida/Diaz staredown was awesome. What was going on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Bottom pic. Diaz got up in Guida's face (or, the air above his head), and Guida responded in kind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Yeah I didn't necessarily mean BJ would sub GSP from his back, I just meant that I think GSP will eventually take BJ down, and after a big struggle back and forth, BJ finds a way to sub GSP, and yeah I know the scenario is not likely, but when you have two great fighters of this calibur, sometimes it takes the unexpected to win the fight. Most people consider Penn a dead man if/when he gets taken down by GSP, so I am just throwing anothr angle in there. Also, is there any chance that GSP is looking past this fight at a possible superfight with Anderson Silva? I mean, personally I don't think that at all, but I have been listening to a lot of media on this fight and it almost seems like for BJ Penn THIS is the defining fight so far in his career, one he HAS TO WIN, but for GSP it is merely another fight and kind of looked at as a fight to set up a superfight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkius Maximus 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 If GSP is looking past BJ Penn (Which I strongly doubt given it's a Champion vs. Champion fight), he's probably thinking about Thiago Alves. He'd fight Alves before he fought Silva, and Alves is one of the few guys in the WW division that is bigger then GSP. But I doubt he is. He'd be a goddamn fool to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 No way GSP is looking past this fight. BJ is respected by pretty much every fighter out there. No one takes him lightly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 GSP nearly got beat by this guy last time, no way he looks past BJ. Cannot goddamn wait for this fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 The GSP/BJ staredown, the whole time I'm audibly saying "oh shit! oh shit! oh shit! oh shit! oh shit! oh shit!". How can anyone hate Clay Guida? Serious. The dude is such a cool, energetic, positive guy. Probably gives clothes to the homeless, heals sick children, and goes to retirement homes just to let old people tell their story to someone who cares. How can anyone hate Clay Guida? Nate Diaz, still, HATES, Clay Guida. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Win or lose I'll never hate Guide. Dude always fights at 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Thiago Silva looked like Batista Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Buffer likes what he sees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Surprised at the number of people picking Kim. Panic attack or not, this is a guy that almost lost to Matt Brown. I like Brown, but he's not near the level of Karo. Karo will win this pretty handily, however way he wants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Agreed for pretty much the reasons you listed. If Brown can take Kim to a split Karo should be able to handle him pretty easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 No way Karo outstrikes Kim, IMO. Kim is taller and throws straighter punches down the pipe from a stance Karo isn't used to seeing. Of course, if Karo wants to turn this into a Judo match, his chances increase a good deal, as Kim isn't very good off of his back. However, with Karo's inclination to strike in the past and Kim's own Judo background, Karo sees like he'd be inclined to try winning this standing. As for the Brown fight, I think it mostly had to do with Kim fighting an extremely awkward fight that ran counter his normal style, gassing him out. Kim normally fights a relatively conservative striking and G&P game based on controlling pace and tempo. Againt Brown, he decided to try and act like a Korean Marcelo Garcia, and ended up blowing his load. Prior to blowing his load, Kim hardly looked bad at all, sans the few moments he was on his back. I'm mostly rehashing here, but I think you're sleeping on a live 'dog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 I would never sleep on a live dog. That's mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Tong- Assuming JOB is successful against Wellisch (which he should be) how far do you see him going at 205? With his size and wrestling background I can imagine him giving a lot of guys trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Eh... I think he may have been working under Vera parameters, where he looked better against bigger, sloth-like opponents who can't really handle his skill set. Carmelo Marrero is a similarly styled fighter who's found that its takes more than some good wrestling skills to excel at a deeper division with more varying skill sets. Also, it may do him well to seek out alternative training elsewhere. He's shown that he has a solid grasp of BJJ positioning, but his actual submission applications and use of G&P don't seem to be where they should be just yet. Getting out of Indiana and finding some alternative training would probably be good for his development. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Don't really hang on his nuts like I do with Tamdan but Jon Jones is another local guy who trains BJJ about 5 minutes from my house. I'm hoping he smashes Bonnar tonight. Honestly - I don't expect it but I'm hoping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Have you been sipping the Carlito Kool-Aid or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
